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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
September 24 2018 03:23 GMT
#721
On September 24 2018 05:14 Kaolla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2018 05:01 Bacillus wrote:
Barca - Girona is 1-2 at the moment. 54 minutes played and Barca are one man down.


And 2-2 and Barca will win anyway. La Liga, most boring league in Europe.


say what ?
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
September 24 2018 04:45 GMT
#722
On September 24 2018 12:23 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2018 05:14 Kaolla wrote:
On September 24 2018 05:01 Bacillus wrote:
Barca - Girona is 1-2 at the moment. 54 minutes played and Barca are one man down.


And 2-2 and Barca will win anyway. La Liga, most boring league in Europe.


say what ?


Yea, well, big upset. The fact that with 10 they still manage to score a goal and draw says enough. And I mean this is not like in the BPL or pretty much any other league where this occasionally happens, pretty much due to luck. In Spain clubs like Barca and Real are just expected to win pretty much all of their games.

I guess the Bundesliga point raised is a fair one though. I don't know why, but somehow I still prefer watching Bundesliga, although I don't really watch either league (Spanish or German) much. Would be good if Dortmund would be able to get back in shape and make it a bit harder on Bayern again. Always liked them cause i thought their jerseys were cool +_+
its me
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-24 05:21:17
September 24 2018 05:09 GMT
#723
On September 24 2018 13:45 Kaolla wrote:
I guess the Bundesliga point raised is a fair one though. I don't know why, but somehow I still prefer watching Bundesliga, although I don't really watch either league (Spanish or German) much. Would be good if Dortmund would be able to get back in shape and make it a bit harder on Bayern again. Always liked them cause i thought their jerseys were cool +_+


say whaaattt ??

.

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Looks, we got another one that comes in with the same "lols no competition, boring league" schtick. And as usual has no idea what they are talking about.. and conflate between a competitive league and a quality league..

Your welcome to consider it boring, but then dont go ahead and justify it by suggesting that is due to its lack of competition.. because.....

On September 24 2018 13:45 Kaolla wrote:
I guess the Bundesliga point raised is a fair one though. I don't know why, but somehow I still prefer watching Bundesliga,


Its not a fair point, its a resoundingly overwhelming point.

Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
September 24 2018 05:36 GMT
#724
On September 24 2018 14:09 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2018 13:45 Kaolla wrote:
I guess the Bundesliga point raised is a fair one though. I don't know why, but somehow I still prefer watching Bundesliga, although I don't really watch either league (Spanish or German) much. Would be good if Dortmund would be able to get back in shape and make it a bit harder on Bayern again. Always liked them cause i thought their jerseys were cool +_+


say whaaattt ??

.

[image loading]


[image loading]

Looks, we got another one that comes in with the same "lols no competition, boring league" schtick. And as usual has no idea what they are talking about.. and conflate between a competitive league and a quality league..

Your welcome to consider it boring, but then dont go ahead and justify it by suggesting that is due to its lack of competition.. because.....

Show nested quote +
On September 24 2018 13:45 Kaolla wrote:
I guess the Bundesliga point raised is a fair one though. I don't know why, but somehow I still prefer watching Bundesliga,


Its not a fair point, its a resoundingly overwhelming point.



Last year's City was not exactly normal though. And you're trying to say that the league now is already decided because there are some teams have had a good start? We all know Liverpool won't keep up their win streak forever and teams like Tottenham, Arsenal and Man Utd (if Mourinho would go) will still be hard to play for any of the top teams. On top of that you always have some teams that perform surprisingly well and one of them even managed to win the title a little while ago.

Dunno what you are talking about with the boring league vs quality league thing though. La Liga is a boring league, that's a fact, not an opinion. Teams like Barca, Real and Atletico (bit less) are expected to win pretty much every single game they play. That is quite a bit different from the BPL. You should rly know that if you pretend to know it all so well.
its me
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
September 24 2018 16:30 GMT
#725
CRonaldo and Messi are such sore losers. Both miss both award ceremonies because they are not winning it.

Grow up guys lol
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-24 17:04:44
September 24 2018 16:51 GMT
#726
On September 24 2018 14:36 Kaolla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2018 14:09 Rebs wrote:
On September 24 2018 13:45 Kaolla wrote:
I guess the Bundesliga point raised is a fair one though. I don't know why, but somehow I still prefer watching Bundesliga, although I don't really watch either league (Spanish or German) much. Would be good if Dortmund would be able to get back in shape and make it a bit harder on Bayern again. Always liked them cause i thought their jerseys were cool +_+


say whaaattt ??

.

[image loading]


[image loading]

Looks, we got another one that comes in with the same "lols no competition, boring league" schtick. And as usual has no idea what they are talking about.. and conflate between a competitive league and a quality league..

Your welcome to consider it boring, but then dont go ahead and justify it by suggesting that is due to its lack of competition.. because.....

On September 24 2018 13:45 Kaolla wrote:
I guess the Bundesliga point raised is a fair one though. I don't know why, but somehow I still prefer watching Bundesliga,


Its not a fair point, its a resoundingly overwhelming point.



Last year's City was not exactly normal though. And you're trying to say that the league now is already decided because there are some teams have had a good start? We all know Liverpool won't keep up their win streak forever and teams like Tottenham, Arsenal and Man Utd (if Mourinho would go) will still be hard to play for any of the top teams. On top of that you always have some teams that perform surprisingly well and one of them even managed to win the title a little while ago.

Dunno what you are talking about with the boring league vs quality league thing though. La Liga is a boring league, that's a fact, not an opinion. Teams like Barca, Real and Atletico (bit less) are expected to win pretty much every single game they play. That is quite a bit different from the BPL. You should rly know that if you pretend to know it all so well.


And one could argue quite successfully that that spell post the late 2010's in La liga was more anamoly then normal. Its not normal to win every game and while fans may expect it, expectation is not really.

La liga being boring is your opinion, I find it immensely interesting, so yeah lets call that a fact now when clearly people can disagree.

There are plenty of hard matches in La Liga, its just that top teams are good enough to win them a bit more consistently.Teams like Bilbao, Sevilla, Sociedad and Celta have handed the Uniteds and other mid tier English teams losses, often in the various levels of Europe So clearly they have game.

Secondly are you suggesting that currently, fans of United (ok maybe not United lul) City, Liverpool and Chelsea do not expect to win every game they play? I can promise you there is not a Single, Liverpool or City fan today with 100 percent guarantee that doesnt expect to win no matter who they play.

Did you not see the diatribe on Chelsea just a page back when all they did was draw on an off day? And thats just one example.

Again expectation is not reality. And expectations are extremely variable based on form and have a significant element of arbitrariness.

You are conflating the perceived competitiveness of a league (which is debatable given the number of unique winners and how title races have unfolded the past 20 years in the PL) with how interesting it is to watch. They can certainly overlap based on ones preference, but they are not, as you alluding, the same.

So you made a rubbish blanket statement and are now providing vague examples to defend. Not really a hill worth dieing on.

MLS is for example extremely competitive, I think you will find it a joy given the proclivity I can assume you have based on your statement.. you never know whose going to win anyday! I would recommend it to people like you quite strongly, you will love it.

At the end of the day though, you are still contradicting yourself by preferring the Bundesliga based on your arbitrary valuation of "competitive(debatable) = interesting"

Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4135 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-24 17:40:10
September 24 2018 17:30 GMT
#727
I do understand his point. I "complained" the same thing here last or two years ago.
You expect the trio Real/Barca/Atletico to have 85+ points each year.
85+ points also means you win ~ 27 afk games of 38.
If that trio were fighting for the la liga title with 75pts at end, that championship would have a much better competition because they wouldn't have to play so much afk games (and far more close games).
85+ looks more like they are hitting a wall and we are watching who is doing better (too much 6-1, 5-0, 8-2, 4-0 games).

edit: from other perspective
How do you feel that you didn't win title (decided at last machday) because your team didn't have enough points (75pts).
How do you feel that you didn't win title (decided at last machday) because your team didn't have enough points (95pts).
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-24 19:43:02
September 24 2018 19:20 GMT
#728
That moment when Mo Salah wins Puskas award for his striker vs Everton no one remembers....meanwhile Ronaldo and Bale's overhead kicks get nothing xD

This award show fucks with my head lol.

Best keeper award - Tibo Courtois
FIFA World 11 - De Gea in goal? lol

Salah in top 3 player of year.....World 11 has no Salah in it?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
September 24 2018 19:52 GMT
#729
Well Rebs, I find La Liga not exciting at all to watch in most of its games, I just watch the Real- Barca matches and sometimes those two vs Atlético M.. I find a lot more entertaining to see the BPL, so it is all about personal preference, the other guy un this thread who thinks the same as me doesnt just need to justify anything.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 24 2018 19:59 GMT
#730
Modric wins FIFA Best Playe of 2018!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18084 Posts
September 24 2018 21:57 GMT
#731
On September 25 2018 04:52 palexhur wrote:
Well Rebs, I find La Liga not exciting at all to watch in most of its games, I just watch the Real- Barca matches and sometimes those two vs Atlético M.. I find a lot more entertaining to see the BPL, so it is all about personal preference, the other guy un this thread who thinks the same as me doesnt just need to justify anything.

Well, he does if he (and he was) claims that BPL is "objectively" more interesting, rather than that he just has a preference for it, and it's all down to personal taste.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2716 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-24 22:39:13
September 24 2018 22:35 GMT
#732
Everyone has his own taste. For example, I love watching Betis Sevilla derby. The stadiums are always full, the atmosphere is magical, etc. After the match the people of Sevilla talk about the match for weeks in every restaurant or house. In addition, Middle table Spanish teams have very high technical and tactical level so matches are good to watch.

I understand some people think la liga is only Barcelona and Real Madrid, but the league has very good teams.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
September 25 2018 03:40 GMT
#733
On September 25 2018 04:20 Pandemona wrote:
That moment when Mo Salah wins Puskas award for his striker vs Everton no one remembers....meanwhile Ronaldo and Bale's overhead kicks get nothing xD

This award show fucks with my head lol.

Best keeper award - Tibo Courtois
FIFA World 11 - De Gea in goal? lol

Salah in top 3 player of year.....World 11 has no Salah in it?

Dani Alves in the best 11.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
September 25 2018 05:25 GMT
#734
We finally broke the CRonaldo/Messi duo and there is only one post about in here? haha

Man fanboys must be all hurt XD
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-25 06:13:19
September 25 2018 06:12 GMT
#735
On September 25 2018 01:30 sharkie wrote:
CRonaldo and Messi are such sore losers. Both miss both award ceremonies because they are not winning it.

Grow up guys lol


On September 25 2018 14:25 sharkie wrote:
We finally broke the CRonaldo/Messi duo and there is only one post about in here? haha

Man fanboys must be all hurt XD


Not that I really care about the award ceremony, but why are you trying to be an annoying little shithead again?

Just stop.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
September 25 2018 06:18 GMT
#736
On September 25 2018 15:12 Twisted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2018 01:30 sharkie wrote:
CRonaldo and Messi are such sore losers. Both miss both award ceremonies because they are not winning it.

Grow up guys lol


Show nested quote +
On September 25 2018 14:25 sharkie wrote:
We finally broke the CRonaldo/Messi duo and there is only one post about in here? haha

Man fanboys must be all hurt XD


Not that I really care about the award ceremony, but why are you trying to be an annoying little shithead again?

Just stop.


Whats wrong with the first post? You dont think Messi and Cronaldo are sore losers? Everyone else appeared at the ceremonies, only those two didn't. They can't even show respect to Modric which is a shame.

And about the second post. If either of the two had won this award we would have tons of post of fans of the other players crying how unfair this is. But when a deserving player wins the award no one congratulates him. Which is just sad for everyone here.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
September 25 2018 06:21 GMT
#737
Well we just had another individual trophy not long ago, and people expressed their opinion already. And it's indeed a shame Ronaldo and Messi didn't show up.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-25 06:26:25
September 25 2018 06:24 GMT
#738
Example of a normal post concerning the topic:

Hey guys, why is no-one talking about Modrid winning? I think it's fair that someone other than Ronaldo / Messi has won it this time. What do you think? Kind of odd that Ronaldo / Messi didn't attend the award ceremony as well!

Sharkie-sauce poured over it:

Huehue fanboys of Ronaldo/Messi SUUUUCK IT Modric won ha ha ha ha. They are such poor losers XDXDXDXD

Though I guess some people don't change. Look, it's an interesting point of discussion, but you can't expect answers when you're posting like that because you look like a troll. Can't you grow up for a change and post in a more pleasant manner?
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Espers
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom606 Posts
September 25 2018 07:05 GMT
#739
lol Messi 5th best player in the world? these awards are such a farce
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
September 25 2018 07:08 GMT
#740
Salah in the top 3 while both Messi and Mbappe are out. English overhype at it's best.
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