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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
September 12 2018 12:22 GMT
#581
On September 12 2018 21:09 WillyWanker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2018 21:00 Bacillus wrote:
On September 12 2018 20:04 WillyWanker wrote:
They should reinstate rules with a maximum number of foreign players, that'd push clubs to work well to survive and talent producing leagues like the Netherlands would be back, for example.

Is the rule completely removed? I recall some Football Manager 2014 still having some kind of homegrown requirement for EL, but can't find a mention on the actual EL 2018 ruleset.

Did they drop it completely recently or is it just lax to have noticeable effect?

In Europe you can't have more than 3 non-European players. But a lot of South American players get a secondary passport and clubs can bypass that rule. They also have a rule that says that each squad should have at least 8 locally trained players. Out of these 8, you can have up to 4 that were trained in your country, not directly in your club. And if you don't get 8, you cannot have the 25 players squad, you get less. I'm not sure if it works exactly this way, but say you have 7 locally trained players, you can only register 24 players in total.

So 8/25, you can put your youth players and never have to call them for a game x)

edit: the source

The bolded part ain't true. Some leagues enforce this rule. But not all leagues do so (e.g. Bundesliga does not) and in European competitions you also can have as many as you can fit in there as long as you fulfill the homegrown rules.
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
September 12 2018 12:22 GMT
#582
The Europa League almost by definition is a losers bracket to the Champions League. But that doesn't make it less meaningful. It is what it is. Before they made the winners go into the Champiosn League it was pretty pointless. The English teams really couldn't give a fuck if they ended up in it. But now smaller teams get to play against bigger teams (albeit ones that have done badly this year) knowing that the big teams value the competition and are trying to win. That is a great yard stick and opportunity for the smaller clubs to measure themselves aginst and just a great ocasion for them they were largely unlikely to have without it. Europa League is never going to be box office but I think all in all it is a good thing.

By the way I haven't read anything about the considered introduction of a third tournament. So I have nothing to add about the main topic of disccusion here. I have no idea what that would look like or if its a good idea. It might be grasping at straws though. Mid level teams from all across Europe playing each other sounds interesting. But Premier League teams are likely to focus on the league and play reserves. Even just the risk of dropping a few points and getting close to the relegation zone because you focussed on mid week third string European competition would not be a risk any Premier League club would be willing to take. But other leagues might have a more posertive outlook on it. Different clubs will have a different perspective.
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
September 12 2018 12:56 GMT
#583
There has been a third tier competition in the past, the Intertoto Cup, which was a bit of an abherration as it was played over the Summer and most competitive teams felt it screwed up their pre-season.
HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy831 Posts
September 12 2018 13:21 GMT
#584
The Intertoto was more like an extra Preliminary Round for the UEFA Cup tho. Who knows, maybe this new cup will be for teams that end up 3rd place in the EL groupstage lol.
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 12 2018 13:30 GMT
#585
How about we just hire a European coach i.e. German, or an Italian and have the American be the assistant?

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
September 12 2018 13:48 GMT
#586
He managed to get really passionate about that. Do International managers really do that much youth development? Surely that's more on their domestic teams and coaches?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 12 2018 17:44 GMT
#587
If there was a god then next year the USMNT will announce Rafael Benítez as our head coach.

A man can dream.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
September 14 2018 00:56 GMT
#588
Burnley only have 1 point from 4 games and look really tired. There will be a few Burnley fans that will be happy they are out of the Europe and they can focus on the league again. It's too early to say they are in trouble. But clubs like that are never going to make a second tier or even third tier European competition their focus over staying in the Premier League and keeping the TV money.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17944 Posts
September 15 2018 02:37 GMT
#589
On September 12 2018 19:13 WillyWanker wrote:
Alright I'm an elitist about that, I don't watch women sports (Serena Williams getting destroyed by a guy ranked 300th without breaking a sweat), and I don't watch French or Spanish second league. And 99% of the football followers (not

I can't watch the NHL any longer. There is no room on the ice. The goalies are so big that less and less often are they forced to make spectacular looking saves; the goalie equipment is so big. They just cover the angle and let the puck hit them. ZZZzzzz. There is so little 5 on 5 scoring. Improving skate technology and improving training have made the players so fast the line between a good play and a catastrophic concussion is so thin head injuries are too frequent. Too many head injuries, players too big for an ice surface designed for guys to be 6 feet tall at most... too few goals.. and boring goalie play have killed the NHL game for me.

for me, Women's Olympic Ice Hockey and Women's world championship ice hockey is more entertaining than the NHL.
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
September 15 2018 02:52 GMT
#590
On September 15 2018 11:37 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2018 19:13 WillyWanker wrote:
Alright I'm an elitist about that, I don't watch women sports (Serena Williams getting destroyed by a guy ranked 300th without breaking a sweat), and I don't watch French or Spanish second league. And 99% of the football followers (not

I can't watch the NHL any longer. There is no room on the ice. The goalies are so big that less and less often are they forced to make spectacular looking saves; the goalie equipment is so big. They just cover the angle and let the puck hit them. ZZZzzzz. There is so little 5 on 5 scoring. Improving skate technology and improving training have made the players so fast the line between a good play and a catastrophic concussion is so thin head injuries are too frequent. Too many head injuries, players too big for an ice surface designed for guys to be 6 feet tall at most... too few goals.. and boring goalie play have killed the NHL game for me.

for me, Women's Olympic Ice Hockey and Women's world championship ice hockey is more entertaining than the NHL.


uhhh .. ok ?
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
September 15 2018 06:08 GMT
#591
On September 15 2018 11:52 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 11:37 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On September 12 2018 19:13 WillyWanker wrote:
Alright I'm an elitist about that, I don't watch women sports (Serena Williams getting destroyed by a guy ranked 300th without breaking a sweat), and I don't watch French or Spanish second league. And 99% of the football followers (not

I can't watch the NHL any longer. There is no room on the ice. The goalies are so big that less and less often are they forced to make spectacular looking saves; the goalie equipment is so big. They just cover the angle and let the puck hit them. ZZZzzzz. There is so little 5 on 5 scoring. Improving skate technology and improving training have made the players so fast the line between a good play and a catastrophic concussion is so thin head injuries are too frequent. Too many head injuries, players too big for an ice surface designed for guys to be 6 feet tall at most... too few goals.. and boring goalie play have killed the NHL game for me.

for me, Women's Olympic Ice Hockey and Women's world championship ice hockey is more entertaining than the NHL.


uhhh .. ok ?


That was prolly a response to willywankers sexist remarks?
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
September 15 2018 06:14 GMT
#592
On September 15 2018 15:08 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 11:52 Rebs wrote:
On September 15 2018 11:37 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On September 12 2018 19:13 WillyWanker wrote:
Alright I'm an elitist about that, I don't watch women sports (Serena Williams getting destroyed by a guy ranked 300th without breaking a sweat), and I don't watch French or Spanish second league. And 99% of the football followers (not

I can't watch the NHL any longer. There is no room on the ice. The goalies are so big that less and less often are they forced to make spectacular looking saves; the goalie equipment is so big. They just cover the angle and let the puck hit them. ZZZzzzz. There is so little 5 on 5 scoring. Improving skate technology and improving training have made the players so fast the line between a good play and a catastrophic concussion is so thin head injuries are too frequent. Too many head injuries, players too big for an ice surface designed for guys to be 6 feet tall at most... too few goals.. and boring goalie play have killed the NHL game for me.

for me, Women's Olympic Ice Hockey and Women's world championship ice hockey is more entertaining than the NHL.


uhhh .. ok ?


That was prolly a response to willywankers sexist remarks?


Yes I am aware, but isnt it equally sexist to shit on mens Hockey if you are going to infer sexism from WIlly's comment hmm hmm hmm ?
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8930 Posts
September 15 2018 06:44 GMT
#593
On September 15 2018 15:14 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 15:08 sharkie wrote:
On September 15 2018 11:52 Rebs wrote:
On September 15 2018 11:37 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On September 12 2018 19:13 WillyWanker wrote:
Alright I'm an elitist about that, I don't watch women sports (Serena Williams getting destroyed by a guy ranked 300th without breaking a sweat), and I don't watch French or Spanish second league. And 99% of the football followers (not

I can't watch the NHL any longer. There is no room on the ice. The goalies are so big that less and less often are they forced to make spectacular looking saves; the goalie equipment is so big. They just cover the angle and let the puck hit them. ZZZzzzz. There is so little 5 on 5 scoring. Improving skate technology and improving training have made the players so fast the line between a good play and a catastrophic concussion is so thin head injuries are too frequent. Too many head injuries, players too big for an ice surface designed for guys to be 6 feet tall at most... too few goals.. and boring goalie play have killed the NHL game for me.

for me, Women's Olympic Ice Hockey and Women's world championship ice hockey is more entertaining than the NHL.


uhhh .. ok ?


That was prolly a response to willywankers sexist remarks?


Yes I am aware, but isnt it equally sexist to shit on mens Hockey if you are going to infer sexism from WIlly's comment hmm hmm hmm ?

how is that sexist? willywankers comments werent sexist either.
nothing wrong with saying women are worse than men at most sports; thats just fact.
likewise theres nothing wrong with saying mens nhl is boring now and womens ice hockey seems more entertaining. absolutely nothing sexist about either of those comments
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
September 15 2018 10:24 GMT
#594
Yeah man, nothing sexist about saying the only women sports I'd watch is beach volleyball :D
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 15 2018 10:33 GMT
#595
Spurs vs Liverpool to kick off the return of premier league! Should be a good game, Scouse should win comfortably though as our Spurs friends are without Lloris, Alli and Kane is not in form. Unless Moura goes super sayian like he did vs Yanited i cannot see anything other than a comfortable scouse win!
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28911 Posts
September 15 2018 12:51 GMT
#596
looks like good analysis! :D
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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 12:54:49
September 15 2018 12:54 GMT
#597
Liverpool looks really strong this season. It is going to be interesting if they can hold MCity.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28911 Posts
September 15 2018 12:57 GMT
#598
yeah agreed. Didn't think they could before the season but with them only conceding 1 goal in the first 5 games, that's very promising.
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TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
September 15 2018 13:23 GMT
#599
well that was a pen
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 13:28:13
September 15 2018 13:27 GMT
#600
Haha justice for last year maybe (the pen for spurs that is), but Spurs way to slow starting and Dier midfield combination is awful. The team that ended the game should start the next one.

Salah can't hit a barn door at the moment either, he had a handful of chances today that he finishes last season and he barely got a decent connection of the ball let alone work the keeper.
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