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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
April 20 2018 04:19 GMT
#81
Sad for Spurs to go out like this, Mills even going all out desperate and getting KD and Shaun injured.
What a shit season for Spurs after a promising start.
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
April 20 2018 04:32 GMT
#82
On April 20 2018 12:37 cLutZ wrote:
Boogie isn't a fit, and probably isn't a fit for any team that can win 40 games without him. I'd guess his best case is the best player on a 6 seed.


He isn't a fit because they have Davis. Davis needs a cheaper backup center who can play defense and shoot 3s. Cousins is just too expensive with an offensive skill set that is largely redundant with Davis there. If they can get a cheaper backup center, they need to shore up their wing positions.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 20 2018 05:48 GMT
#83
On April 20 2018 13:32 andrewlt wrote:
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On April 20 2018 12:37 cLutZ wrote:
Boogie isn't a fit, and probably isn't a fit for any team that can win 40 games without him. I'd guess his best case is the best player on a 6 seed.


He isn't a fit because they have Davis. Davis needs a cheaper backup center who can play defense and shoot 3s. Cousins is just too expensive with an offensive skill set that is largely redundant with Davis there. If they can get a cheaper backup center, they need to shore up their wing positions.

True, but that is overall too nice IMO to Cousins. He is just a guy who I have little faith in in most environments. At best you are hoping for a poor mans version of the 2009 Dwight run (I think thats the right year). He's not a dominant defensive player, he's not nearly as vertical as the other 3-5 other "great" big men, and its not even a league with a good big men ruleset. To me, if he was healthy and on Charlotte instead of old Dwight they maybe get the 8 seed. I dont see a playoff team that could replace its starting big with Cousins and significantly improve.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-20 08:55:08
April 20 2018 08:52 GMT
#84
Davis and Cousins fit very well
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 20 2018 12:12 GMT
#85
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 20 2018 14:45 GMT
#86
That is the reason I wouldn't resign Boogie. He's actually a very good fit and massive advantage vs the 2 teams NOH needs to worry about for a chip(Houston and GSW) and possibly Philly going forward. But if he isn't close to the same after that Achilles injury it would be a terrible contract. But fit isn't the reason. Unless you think Mirotic will actually be a consistent scorer and A-plus defender for the rest of his time in New Orleans there is no point in arguing about fit. Otherwise you should take all your money and bet on them winning the chip now based on the 3 games vs Portland and post-ASB.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
April 20 2018 14:54 GMT
#87
As a casual fan of basketball, that Sixer's game was tense. It seemed like they had opportunity after opportunity to pull away in the 3rd and squandered them consistently. Hurray for Jojo though.
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
April 20 2018 15:15 GMT
#88
On April 20 2018 23:54 Gahlo wrote:
As a casual fan of basketball, that Sixer's game was tense. It seemed like they had opportunity after opportunity to pull away in the 3rd and squandered them consistently. Hurray for Jojo though.

And seriously fuck Wade and his dirty plays. He could have seriously torn or dislocated Anderson's shoulder.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 20 2018 16:17 GMT
#89
On April 20 2018 23:45 Ace wrote:
That is the reason I wouldn't resign Boogie. He's actually a very good fit and massive advantage vs the 2 teams NOH needs to worry about for a chip(Houston and GSW) and possibly Philly going forward. But if he isn't close to the same after that Achilles injury it would be a terrible contract. But fit isn't the reason. Unless you think Mirotic will actually be a consistent scorer and A-plus defender for the rest of his time in New Orleans there is no point in arguing about fit. Otherwise you should take all your money and bet on them winning the chip now based on the 3 games vs Portland and post-ASB.

You make no sense. Basically every team that is elite is going to eventually pose the same problem for NO. Even if a team like NY or Milwaukee ends up being the team it will be using a 4-1 lineup ( unless there are rule changes), not the sort of thing that plays into a 2 center lineup's hands.

Plus, you really just want Davis to accept his role as the king of the paint on both ends.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 20 2018 16:28 GMT
#90
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-20 17:21:52
April 20 2018 17:19 GMT
#91
On April 21 2018 01:28 JimmiC wrote:
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On April 20 2018 23:45 Ace wrote:
That is the reason I wouldn't resign Boogie. He's actually a very good fit and massive advantage vs the 2 teams NOH needs to worry about for a chip(Houston and GSW) and possibly Philly going forward. But if he isn't close to the same after that Achilles injury it would be a terrible contract. But fit isn't the reason. Unless you think Mirotic will actually be a consistent scorer and A-plus defender for the rest of his time in New Orleans there is no point in arguing about fit. Otherwise you should take all your money and bet on them winning the chip now based on the 3 games vs Portland and post-ASB.


The other issue with Boogie is attitude, he doesn't have the best reputation. I don't think anyone is thinking Mirotic is a better player, but that he might be more worth it when you take into account the differences in Salary both will have.


The other big thing is what does AD want? If he will resign if Boogie does then it is a no brainer. Whatever he wants is what I would do because NO has no way of attracting a FA like AD so they need to do whatever it takes to resign him.


AD still has 2 years + player option for a 3rd year left. so if they dont resign cousins, they need to have a plan for the next 2 years to convince AD to resign in 2 years.

but i think they'll have no choice but to resign cousins, just like they had no choice but to resign holiday
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-20 17:31:16
April 20 2018 17:30 GMT
#92
Salary is part of the reason that I said Boogie doesn't fit that well with the Pelicans. With Davis there, they just don't need everything that they will have to pay him for. He's going to be a grossly overpaid stretch 5 on a lot of possessions.

And they're pretty thin on the forward spots. I think SF should be their biggest need.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
April 20 2018 18:07 GMT
#93
On April 21 2018 02:30 andrewlt wrote:
Salary is part of the reason that I said Boogie doesn't fit that well with the Pelicans. With Davis there, they just don't need everything that they will have to pay him for. He's going to be a grossly overpaid stretch 5 on a lot of possessions.

And they're pretty thin on the forward spots. I think SF should be their biggest need.


*im not an expert on salary caps, just looking stuff up, so i could be wrong*

the reason i say they have no choice is, without cousins, pelicans have 95.5 mil committed next year. the cap next year is like 108, can NO get a SF with 12 mil that will have a better impact than cousins? im looking at a list of FAs this summer and i dont see a SF that they can get for that much and be a better impact. ariza would be great, but i dont think he's leaving houston
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 20 2018 18:52 GMT
#94
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Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
April 20 2018 18:55 GMT
#95
On April 21 2018 00:15 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2018 23:54 Gahlo wrote:
As a casual fan of basketball, that Sixer's game was tense. It seemed like they had opportunity after opportunity to pull away in the 3rd and squandered them consistently. Hurray for Jojo though.

And seriously fuck Wade and his dirty plays. He could have seriously torn or dislocated Anderson's shoulder.

Making that a double technical seemed garbage to me, unless there was some back and forth that only the officials were privy to

But based solely on the action itself that was a ridiculous call
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17705 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-20 21:17:48
April 20 2018 21:00 GMT
#96
On April 18 2018 11:06 zev318 wrote:
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On April 18 2018 08:52 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Fred VanVleet does not look like he is any where near 100% tonight. It looks like his right shoulder is still bothering him.

Satoransky gave the Raptors fits all year... its a good move by Brooks to use him more in the 1st half.


either scott brooks is stupid or he doesnt see what u claim. lawson got 31 mins while satoransky got only 14 minutes

0 3 4 0-4 2TO 0 plus/minus 22min nov 5 W
4 2 3 2-4 3TO -5 plus/minus 12 min nov 19 L
10 4 3 4-9 3TO -1 plus/minus 27 min feb 1 W
10 8 6 4-7 6TO -2 plus/minus 35 min mar 2 L

these are his stats in 4 reg season games, looks like 2 decent game at most. i dont know how u could call that "giving fits all year"? and then he was awarded with less minutes than a guy who was just playing ball in china a week ago.


you can't always judge a players contribution to a win based on a meagre boxscore stat line. Especially when the opponent is a 59 win team.

Delon Wright was 3 for 9, 1 for 4 from 3, and +0 in game 2 on Tuesday. I think he was their best bench player and played very well and was a substantial contributor to the Raptors win. Jack Armstrong described this as a "coming of age" game for Delon. Dolye's "quick reaction" letter grade for Delon was a B+. Blake Murphy said Delon played well. Casey went on and on for 5 minutes during the press conference about how good Delon was in game 2. The universal consensus is that Delon played very well and was probably Toronto's best defender. This is an example of a player having a solid game and the player has a mediocre looking boxscore.

I'd say Satoransky's contribution to the Wizards 3-1 record against Toronto the past 13 months when they use him as a handler/distributor is similar to Delon Wright's contribution to the game 2 win. When Sato's role and time are minimized the Wizards are 0-4.

There is quite a thorough discussion regarding Satoransky's role with the Wizards going on on reddit. It also discusses how Sato earned his spot in the rotation as back up PG and Satoransky's head injury which may be affecting his play lately.

https://www.reddit.com/r/washingtonwizards/comments/8dh4tn/satoranskys_role/

some say Satoransky isn't as aggressive as he was pre-head injury. i watched parts of a couple of games after Feb. 11 using LeaguePass and he looked passive to me. i don't watch many Wizards games though.

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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-20 22:59:06
April 20 2018 22:29 GMT
#97
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 20 2018 23:11 GMT
#98
I want VanVleet healthy so if the Cavs somehow make it to the semis he annihilates their entire bench
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-20 23:24:08
April 20 2018 23:13 GMT
#99
On April 21 2018 03:55 Aveng3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2018 00:15 Twinkle Toes wrote:
On April 20 2018 23:54 Gahlo wrote:
As a casual fan of basketball, that Sixer's game was tense. It seemed like they had opportunity after opportunity to pull away in the 3rd and squandered them consistently. Hurray for Jojo though.

And seriously fuck Wade and his dirty plays. He could have seriously torn or dislocated Anderson's shoulder.

Making that a double technical seemed garbage to me, unless there was some back and forth that only the officials were privy to

But based solely on the action itself that was a ridiculous call

That call was incomprehensible. He could have easily injured that other guy. One of the strangest calls i have ever seen given that the refs went to the monitor and saw it all before the decision.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 20 2018 23:50 GMT
#100
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