EPTOn October 09 2017 21:32 Pandemona wrote:
I thought Germans used most of the 2009 winning Euro U21 squad for the World Cup win? That just a one off them ?
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On October 09 2017 20:16 Mafe wrote:
In all fairness, here in germany the approach of promoting U21 players to the main squad has been working about quite nicely in recent years. So I'm not convinced that this is the main issue.
About dropping underperforming players, you surely got a point there. But then some "fresh" players tend to be young ones and might be eligible for U21
On October 09 2017 18:55 DucK- wrote:
England managers time and time again has no balls to drop underperforming established players and try fresh players. More importantly, they always make the upcoming young stars skip the u23 tournaments because hey let's promote them to first team. I think such tournament experience is vital, but no let's think short term instead.
On October 09 2017 17:14 Pandemona wrote:
He makes me laugh with how idiotic he is with his saying one thing and doing the opposite;
We have no captain's in this squad, no one has the relative experience, we don't have champions league winners, or premier league winners in this group.
Is a quote, he has Cahill who captained Chelsea to the premier league title last season and won the champions league in 2012. Bertrand also won said champions league in 2012 xD
Then he follows up with after the game;
I won't let players return to their clubs, we have a duty to go to Lithuania and win for the fans who have already paid money and got tickets to go. I will play the best team.
Continues to make several changes, the first 11 looks very poor on paper with 2 complete debuts and others playing 2nd or 3rd game. Only good part was he finally played 3-4-3.
On October 09 2017 04:43 DucK- wrote:
England never learn do they....they will never accomplish anything with unproven managers like southgate...
England never learn do they....they will never accomplish anything with unproven managers like southgate...
He makes me laugh with how idiotic he is with his saying one thing and doing the opposite;
We have no captain's in this squad, no one has the relative experience, we don't have champions league winners, or premier league winners in this group.
Is a quote, he has Cahill who captained Chelsea to the premier league title last season and won the champions league in 2012. Bertrand also won said champions league in 2012 xD
Then he follows up with after the game;
I won't let players return to their clubs, we have a duty to go to Lithuania and win for the fans who have already paid money and got tickets to go. I will play the best team.
Continues to make several changes, the first 11 looks very poor on paper with 2 complete debuts and others playing 2nd or 3rd game. Only good part was he finally played 3-4-3.
England managers time and time again has no balls to drop underperforming established players and try fresh players. More importantly, they always make the upcoming young stars skip the u23 tournaments because hey let's promote them to first team. I think such tournament experience is vital, but no let's think short term instead.
In all fairness, here in germany the approach of promoting U21 players to the main squad has been working about quite nicely in recent years. So I'm not convinced that this is the main issue.
About dropping underperforming players, you surely got a point there. But then some "fresh" players tend to be young ones and might be eligible for U21
I thought Germans used most of the 2009 winning Euro U21 squad for the World Cup win? That just a one off them ?
The backline is of the U21 squad. Offense and midfield (with exception of Özil) was not U21
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