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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
May 28 2018 10:00 GMT
#5901
I am not saying Ramos isn't a cunt. All I am saying is that Salah provoked Ramos and that is just stupid. Who in their right mind would ever want to lock arms with Ramos? Everyone knows what he is capable of.
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-28 16:13:07
May 28 2018 11:27 GMT
#5902
On May 28 2018 17:24 Salteador Neo wrote:
Welp I stopped playing after Ramos injured Salah without even a foul call lol. Was very obvious that he intended to hurt him because of he still held his arm while putting his body weight on top of it, when touching on the ground. Felt like I was watching some hollywood action movie, what a shitshow.

You could feel how the whole Liverpool team and fans morale plummeted after Salah left. Before that, they were running all over Madrid ezpz. Didn't even need to watch the rest to know who wins.


You should play football once for personal experience to uderstand that it wasn't a convincing foul at all (free kick at most). Get over it.

There could be more dangeroues injuries in a typical gaming situation without a foul.
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
May 28 2018 11:28 GMT
#5903
Agree sharkie, I would've probably done something similar as Ramos did if someone was locking arms with me. I think the elbow he gave Karius is what everyone should be up in arms about, but people are too busy being angry about a little tussle.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-28 11:54:38
May 28 2018 11:53 GMT
#5904
[image loading]

Pretty amazing coincidence :D

Both bycicle kicks (Ronaldo & Bale) within a second of eachother in different games.
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
May 28 2018 11:57 GMT
#5905
Scripted confirmed haha
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-28 14:39:53
May 28 2018 14:39 GMT
#5906
On May 28 2018 20:28 Ysellian wrote:
Agree sharkie, I would've probably done something similar as Ramos did if someone was locking arms with me. I think the elbow he gave Karius is what everyone should be up in arms about, but people are too busy being angry about a little tussle.


Yeah the emotional impact of the injury has made people a bit nutso. It was a foul sure, but Ramos wasnt trying to hurt him.

He WAS trying to hurt Karius and why the ref behind the goal line still exists if they are going to be this useless is beyond me.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-28 15:44:43
May 28 2018 15:44 GMT
#5907
On May 28 2018 23:39 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 20:28 Ysellian wrote:
Agree sharkie, I would've probably done something similar as Ramos did if someone was locking arms with me. I think the elbow he gave Karius is what everyone should be up in arms about, but people are too busy being angry about a little tussle.


Yeah the emotional impact of the injury has made people a bit nutso. It was a foul sure, but Ramos wasnt trying to hurt him.

He WAS trying to hurt Karius and why the ref behind the goal line still exists if they are going to be this useless is beyond me.


Baffling isn't it? Players play like they aren't there and they may as well not be, because they never make decisions. I hope VAR is a success at the World Cup, because I hope to see it in all the top leagues. I watched a lot of Italian football this season and I must say it made the game much more enjoyable. (Except for Lazio fans, they had some iffy calls still)
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-28 16:33:51
May 28 2018 16:33 GMT
#5908
Lol, if it's not ref mistakes, then it's Ramos "intentionally" injuring someone... Ramos just roughed him up a bit, which is normal. Turned out that Salah got injured in the process. Shit happens.
About the Karius thing... I can show you clips of Messi doing similar things without a punishment. Contacts like this one usually go unpunished when they happen during corners and fouls. Same with blatant holding, pushing and shoving. Crosses in the penalty area are open season.
In perspective, maybe Ramos was trying to help Liverpool by knocking Karius out of the game.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-28 20:29:39
May 28 2018 16:44 GMT
#5909
On May 29 2018 01:33 Pr0wler wrote:
Lol, if it's not ref mistakes, then it's Ramos "intentionally" injuring someone... Ramos just roughed him up a bit, which is normal. Turned out that Salah got injured in the process. Shit happens.
About the Karius thing... I can show you clips of Messi doing similar things without a punishment. Contacts like this one usually go unpunished when they happen during corners and fouls. Same with blatant holding, pushing and shoving. Crosses in the penalty area are open season.
In perspective, maybe Ramos was trying to help Liverpool by knocking Karius out of the game.


Sorry, Messi flinging his arms in goalkeepers face on purpose?

Please do. It wasnt an accident, Ramos wasnt born yesterday. he understands space. He knew what he was doing.

And its not like what Ramos did to Salah wasnt a foul. He just didnt plan on taking him out of the game is all.

If you are suggesting that we are alluding to the fact that Karius's boneheaded plays were because he did that or that Real would have lost or whatever, well the answer is no. That sort of conjecture is pointless given the nature of the offense.

But if the games laws are followed at the very least Ramos shouldnt have continued in that game. Thats all really.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
May 28 2018 17:00 GMT
#5910
can u guys at least post some gifs
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-28 17:04:13
May 28 2018 17:03 GMT
#5911
On May 29 2018 01:44 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2018 01:33 Pr0wler wrote:
Lol, if it's not ref mistakes, then it's Ramos "intentionally" injuring someone... Ramos just roughed him up a bit, which is normal. Turned out that Salah got injured in the process. Shit happens.
About the Karius thing... I can show you clips of Messi doing similar things without a punishment. Contacts like this one usually go unpunished when they happen during corners and fouls. Same with blatant holding, pushing and shoving. Crosses in the penalty area are open season.
In perspective, maybe Ramos was trying to help Liverpool by knocking Karius out of the game.


Sorry, Messi flinging his arms in goalkeepers face on purpose?

Please do. It wasnt an accident, Ramos wasnt born yesterday. he understands space. He knew what he was doing.

And its not like what Ramos did to Salah wasnt a fool. He just didnt plan on taking him out of the game is all.

If you are suggesting that we are alluding to the fact that Karius's boneheaded plays were because he did that or that Real would have lost or whatever, well the answer is no. That sort of conjecture is pointless given the nature of the offense.

But if the games laws are followed at the very least Ramos shouldnt have continued in that game. Thats all really.


Messi knocking a tooth or two out of Maicon's mouth during a cross. Google it.
I never said it's an accident. I'm saying that these things go unpunished for better or worse.
I'm not suggesting anything of what you wrote... I am making fun of Karius.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 28 2018 17:25 GMT
#5912
On May 29 2018 02:00 zev318 wrote:
can u guys at least post some gifs

Ramos v Karius https://streamable.com/i60jl

Messi v Maicon + Show Spoiler +



How these can remotely be compared, no idea.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-28 17:37:13
May 28 2018 17:36 GMT
#5913
Both nowhere near the ball deliberate hits to the face... I agree, nothing similar.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 28 2018 17:44 GMT
#5914
Deliberate hit with elbows tucked to the body jumping for a high cross with Maicon crashing into him trying to do the same thing?
That is the same as intentionally extending the elbow to hit the goalkeeper as a bully move.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-28 17:58:49
May 28 2018 17:55 GMT
#5915
I don't know... Maybe the internet is broken today and the words I write come out differently on your side. They are similar, not the same.
Messi had complete vision of Maicon and smacked him with shoulder without a chance to play the ball. As I said, deliberate hits, nowhere near the ball.

Well, i can take your approach, too... Karuis smashed his head into Ramos, while he was extending his elbows to keep balance while falling after being pushed.

I understand that the season is over and there is nothing to talk about, but I don't think that such minor accident is worth discussing.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 28 2018 18:04 GMT
#5916
The problem you are having is that Messi is legitimately jumping for a cross, admittedly one he has no chance to get, but with his elbows tucked into his body and with a legit path to the ball.
That might be intentional, it also might not be.

Meanwhile with Ramos there is absolutely no other reason this happens, only malicious intent. The ball is nowhere near, not even coming in as a too high cross 2 secs later and karius is getting blind sided.

So no, these are not even remotely comparable.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
May 28 2018 18:11 GMT
#5917
Well you say that Ramos is nowhere near the play and you are right, but at the same time I can clearly see number 4 from Liverpool shoving Ramos with both hands and quite the force forwards... So "by the games law" as someone said above, this is penalty for Real.
As I said I don't think that it's unintentional... I think that there should be no call for reasons stated above.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 28 2018 18:14 GMT
#5918
Yep that is a fair point, not as much that it is a penalty but that the shove gave enough doubt of it being intentional and thus non actionable.

The problem Ramos has here is that there is no one outside of Real fans that is willing to give him even the slightest benefit of the doubt.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
May 28 2018 18:17 GMT
#5919
They are not similar, not comparable, your point is invalid Pr0wler, what Ramos did is 100% intentional , anyone who has played the game knows that.
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
May 28 2018 18:29 GMT
#5920
Yep, the internet is obviously broken today. I will comeback tomorrow, maybe it will get better.

Another equally important news : No fun for Germany at the world cup (www.thesun.co.uk)
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