• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:27
CET 11:27
KST 19:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.174Evil Geniuses - shutting down20ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League92
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.17 Evil Geniuses - shutting down REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development No more SC2 streamers on team liquid?
Tourneys
2026 KungFu Cup Announcement RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
Starcraft player cRuZa Passed away. BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Do we even care about balance? SCHNAIL now supports Remastered
Tourneys
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4 [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL23] RO24 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7764 users

2017 - 2018 Football Thread - Page 130

Forum Index > Sports
Post a Reply
Prev 1 128 129 130 131 132 335 Next
New Season Thread Is Up!!!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/535996-2018-2019-football-thread
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-25 19:36:18
November 25 2017 19:35 GMT
#2581
On November 26 2017 04:16 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2017 03:56 Pr0wler wrote:
On November 26 2017 03:43 sneirac wrote:
On November 26 2017 03:41 Pr0wler wrote:
How the hell is the first goal for Dortmund legal ? I tought that they have VAR in Germany... Now I'm watching Bayern's game and BMG were awarded a penalty after obvious offside. Did the Bundesliga turn off the VAR or what ?

VAR reviewed it, it just isn't an actionable handball. Hand is in a "natural" position, zero distance/time to react, no active movement toward the ball, just completely incidental contact.

If his hand was not there that was not a goal. Doesn't matter whether its intentional or not. He is not allowed to score with hands. Also this "natural" position of the hand is really questionable... Saluting the crowd while sliding on the grass is not really common.

edit: Just now I saw that the ref was Aytekin. That explains everything...

You need to read the rules on what a handball is. Not every contact of the ball with the hand is automatically illegal, intent is required or negligence and neither was in play here. Aytekin called it this way, the VAR agreed, the refereeing experts agreed and all commentators agreed.
I'll go with them and the laws of the game over your opinion.

No negligence there at all, he put his hand in the air "just in case". 100% not negligent, quite the opposite actually

I will go with my eyes, rather than Aytekin's... His have really bad track record
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
November 25 2017 19:51 GMT
#2582
On November 26 2017 04:35 Pr0wler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2017 04:16 sneirac wrote:
On November 26 2017 03:56 Pr0wler wrote:
On November 26 2017 03:43 sneirac wrote:
On November 26 2017 03:41 Pr0wler wrote:
How the hell is the first goal for Dortmund legal ? I tought that they have VAR in Germany... Now I'm watching Bayern's game and BMG were awarded a penalty after obvious offside. Did the Bundesliga turn off the VAR or what ?

VAR reviewed it, it just isn't an actionable handball. Hand is in a "natural" position, zero distance/time to react, no active movement toward the ball, just completely incidental contact.

If his hand was not there that was not a goal. Doesn't matter whether its intentional or not. He is not allowed to score with hands. Also this "natural" position of the hand is really questionable... Saluting the crowd while sliding on the grass is not really common.

edit: Just now I saw that the ref was Aytekin. That explains everything...

You need to read the rules on what a handball is. Not every contact of the ball with the hand is automatically illegal, intent is required or negligence and neither was in play here. Aytekin called it this way, the VAR agreed, the refereeing experts agreed and all commentators agreed.
I'll go with them and the laws of the game over your opinion.

No negligence there at all, he put his hand in the air "just in case". 100% not negligent, quite the opposite actually

I will go with my eyes, rather than Aytekin's... His have really bad track record

Good thing that Aytekin was also the VAR for this game, and the refereeing expert and on all text/video commentary.

Just google pictures of sliding tackles and look if that arm was in an unusual position...
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-25 20:19:32
November 25 2017 20:11 GMT
#2583
On November 26 2017 04:51 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2017 04:35 Pr0wler wrote:
On November 26 2017 04:16 sneirac wrote:
On November 26 2017 03:56 Pr0wler wrote:
On November 26 2017 03:43 sneirac wrote:
On November 26 2017 03:41 Pr0wler wrote:
How the hell is the first goal for Dortmund legal ? I tought that they have VAR in Germany... Now I'm watching Bayern's game and BMG were awarded a penalty after obvious offside. Did the Bundesliga turn off the VAR or what ?

VAR reviewed it, it just isn't an actionable handball. Hand is in a "natural" position, zero distance/time to react, no active movement toward the ball, just completely incidental contact.

If his hand was not there that was not a goal. Doesn't matter whether its intentional or not. He is not allowed to score with hands. Also this "natural" position of the hand is really questionable... Saluting the crowd while sliding on the grass is not really common.

edit: Just now I saw that the ref was Aytekin. That explains everything...

You need to read the rules on what a handball is. Not every contact of the ball with the hand is automatically illegal, intent is required or negligence and neither was in play here. Aytekin called it this way, the VAR agreed, the refereeing experts agreed and all commentators agreed.
I'll go with them and the laws of the game over your opinion.

No negligence there at all, he put his hand in the air "just in case". 100% not negligent, quite the opposite actually

I will go with my eyes, rather than Aytekin's... His have really bad track record

Good thing that Aytekin was also the VAR for this game, and the refereeing expert and on all text/video commentary.

Just google pictures of sliding tackles and look if that arm was in an unusual position...


First of all that is hardly a sliding tackle...
Anyways, I decided to humor you and did that just now. I didn't see an usual position. Usually the hands are all over the place depending on the situation. One thing I didn't see tough - a player with his arm extended forward with open hand in attempt to increase his volume.

Anyways, karma fixed everything at the end.

Lol, Liverpool choked again.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11449 Posts
November 26 2017 01:48 GMT
#2584
Could only watch the first half. Just finished highlights. Damn Morata not taking his chances. Looked like a defensive masterclass by the team despite salah's goal.

Can anyone explain why we bought baka and sold chalobah again? Guy offers nothing offensively, and is prone to giving away possession cheaply with his poor touch. Some times he used his build well, but it appears I see the former more often. He has no place in a 3 man midfield with kante and Drinkwater selected. He was suppose to boss the midfield with his big frame, but his technique is lacking....
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-26 02:21:43
November 26 2017 02:18 GMT
#2585
Palace are only 3 points from safety now. Their performances have been getting better and better and they were unlucky to not get a win under their aging owl of a manager earlier. The bottom is going to be a right scrap this year. Literally anyone could go down.

I fell asleep again. I must be getting old. I managed to watch the games just fine living in Korea. In China the games are a whole hour earlier and I can't even remember the last time I made it to the end of a 3 o’clock kick off.

edit: Pulis is demonstrably a good manager whoever was arguing otherwise. Maybe not popular. But he gets the job done. More than can be said for a lot of managers.
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
November 26 2017 04:43 GMT
#2586
Pretty good cross from Wiliian..
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
November 26 2017 06:03 GMT
#2587
On November 26 2017 10:48 DucK- wrote:
Could only watch the first half. Just finished highlights. Damn Morata not taking his chances. Looked like a defensive masterclass by the team despite salah's goal.

Can anyone explain why we bought baka and sold chalobah again? Guy offers nothing offensively, and is prone to giving away possession cheaply with his poor touch. Some times he used his build well, but it appears I see the former more often. He has no place in a 3 man midfield with kante and Drinkwater selected. He was suppose to boss the midfield with his big frame, but his technique is lacking....

To be honest with ya I think Fellaini could have done a better job than Baka already is.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
November 26 2017 15:31 GMT
#2588
Just 11 goals conceded this week by Everton.
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
November 26 2017 15:54 GMT
#2589
On November 26 2017 04:35 Pr0wler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2017 04:16 sneirac wrote:
On November 26 2017 03:56 Pr0wler wrote:
On November 26 2017 03:43 sneirac wrote:
On November 26 2017 03:41 Pr0wler wrote:
How the hell is the first goal for Dortmund legal ? I tought that they have VAR in Germany... Now I'm watching Bayern's game and BMG were awarded a penalty after obvious offside. Did the Bundesliga turn off the VAR or what ?

VAR reviewed it, it just isn't an actionable handball. Hand is in a "natural" position, zero distance/time to react, no active movement toward the ball, just completely incidental contact.

If his hand was not there that was not a goal. Doesn't matter whether its intentional or not. He is not allowed to score with hands. Also this "natural" position of the hand is really questionable... Saluting the crowd while sliding on the grass is not really common.

edit: Just now I saw that the ref was Aytekin. That explains everything...

You need to read the rules on what a handball is. Not every contact of the ball with the hand is automatically illegal, intent is required or negligence and neither was in play here. Aytekin called it this way, the VAR agreed, the refereeing experts agreed and all commentators agreed.
I'll go with them and the laws of the game over your opinion.

No negligence there at all, he put his hand in the air "just in case". 100% not negligent, quite the opposite actually

I will go with my eyes, rather than Aytekin's... His have really bad track record


I am with you on that. That goal was debated a bit but the referee and the video ref had the same opinion on it, so I guess it was correct according to rules.

I mean I get that you shouldn't punish an unintentional handball with a penalty, but it's different when a goal is scored by hand. the ball wouldn't have gone in without the hand and goals shouldn't allowed to be scored like that, no matter if intentional or not.
Respect my authoritah!!
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-26 16:48:28
November 26 2017 16:48 GMT
#2590
I transferred out Bertrand for Otamendi....
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 26 2017 18:18 GMT
#2591
Hahahahah Skynx my man! My friend also transfered bertrand out but not for oatemendi xd

Also Arsenal robbed Burnley for the 3rd? i think consecutive fixture between them with a 90th minute plus wrong penalty call!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
November 26 2017 20:20 GMT
#2592
Right then, wouldve been nice to have VAR in this Barca Valencia game eh...
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
November 26 2017 20:21 GMT
#2593
On November 27 2017 05:20 Rebs wrote:
Right then, wouldve been nice to have VAR in this Barca Valencia game eh...

Incredibly poor decision! Valencia should have scored immediately after as well, but Zaza was selfish.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
November 26 2017 20:25 GMT
#2594
gif of what two above are talking about

https://imgtc.com/w/jqntYGo

Would have served time right tho to concede on counter, 4 players ignoring the game to yell at linesman
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 26 2017 20:58 GMT
#2595
Was hilarious indeed. Good game though, Valencia very solid team this season nice to see. Their stadium always had a special vibe to it, glad they get to be back fighting at the top.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 26 2017 21:03 GMT
#2596
Oh my word!!!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-26 22:37:02
November 26 2017 22:32 GMT
#2597
On November 27 2017 05:21 city42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2017 05:20 Rebs wrote:
Right then, wouldve been nice to have VAR in this Barca Valencia game eh...

Incredibly poor decision! Valencia should have scored immediately after as well, but Zaza was selfish.


It was huge because the normally very engaging and free scoring team this season went full on Jose, and that goal woudve opened the game up.

Insead it was a cagey piece of garbage of a game from what are the two best attacking teams in the league this season. for the first half.

Second half was better because Valencia actually decided to give their wingers (the two best in the league this season Imo, the ball for once).

When this Valencia team plays with belief they are cracking.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-27 00:09:00
November 27 2017 00:02 GMT
#2598
Valencia was so close to be 1 point below barça...

But anyway, I think Luiz Suarez is finished. He has not speed anymore and he is always offside. And I will not comment the blind refere, maybe VAR will fix this next season.
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
November 27 2017 01:50 GMT
#2599
On November 27 2017 07:32 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2017 05:21 city42 wrote:
On November 27 2017 05:20 Rebs wrote:
Right then, wouldve been nice to have VAR in this Barca Valencia game eh...

Incredibly poor decision! Valencia should have scored immediately after as well, but Zaza was selfish.


It was huge because the normally very engaging and free scoring team this season went full on Jose, and that goal woudve opened the game up.

Insead it was a cagey piece of garbage of a game from what are the two best attacking teams in the league this season. for the first half.

Second half was better because Valencia actually decided to give their wingers (the two best in the league this season Imo, the ball for once).

When this Valencia team plays with belief they are cracking.

Yeah Guedes and Soler have been great so far this season. Refs are human I suppose, but it was such an obvious goal...shades of Roy Carroll.

Had Zaza scored with that volley in the last seconds of stoppage time, the Mestalla might have caved in. Incredible atmosphere in the second half.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4203 Posts
November 27 2017 05:06 GMT
#2600
Don't they have goal line technology in Spain? Anyway can't really blame the players for complaining that ball was way over the line lol.
Prev 1 128 129 130 131 132 335 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
KCM Race Survival
19:00
Season 4 Week 3
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 808
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 253
SortOf 149
StarCraft: Brood War
actioN 1136
Horang2 1047
Bisu 833
Jaedong 538
Stork 373
Pusan 233
EffOrt 202
Zeus 158
Soma 135
Light 108
[ Show more ]
ZerO 100
Snow 98
Mind 97
Larva 77
Sharp 66
ggaemo 57
910 57
Last 44
Barracks 37
ToSsGirL 34
Hyun 34
sSak 20
yabsab 17
Sexy 16
Free 12
JYJ 11
Noble 11
Terrorterran 2
Shuttle 0
Dota 2
Gorgc10535
Counter-Strike
olofmeister887
edward18
Other Games
ceh9480
crisheroes232
KnowMe66
ArmadaUGS58
DeMusliM22
ZerO(Twitch)8
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL18987
Other Games
gamesdonequick571
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 9
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 14
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 8
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2159
League of Legends
• Stunt1158
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
33m
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
OSC
3h 33m
OSC
11h 33m
GSL
1d 1h
Epic.LAN
1d 2h
Replay Cast
1d 12h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 23h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Epic.LAN
2 days
AI Arena Tournament
2 days
[ Show More ]
Yamato Cup
3 days
Map Test Tournament
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Rogue vs Classic
Patches Events
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-28
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.