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warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
November 03 2017 23:48 GMT
#2261
Benfica has 400m in liabilities, financial debt is actuallly substantially lower. We haven't been in trouble with FFP because since its inception, the club has become financially profitable. Last year profit was 44m.
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
November 04 2017 09:20 GMT
#2262
On November 04 2017 05:02 sneirac wrote:
First time FA uses power to ban players for diving/deception and it is for this:
Original ruling was red on the shove. Red rescinded and 2 game ban for "successfully deceiving a match official"


I don't quite understand. Was he banned for overreacting when he was already on the ground? Because in this video I can see neither a dive nor deception. The guy comes up to him and shoves him to the ground with quite a bit of force behind it, which is a clear red for me.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4367 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-04 09:51:16
November 04 2017 09:48 GMT
#2263
On November 04 2017 18:20 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2017 05:02 sneirac wrote:
First time FA uses power to ban players for diving/deception and it is for this:
Original ruling was red on the shove. Red rescinded and 2 game ban for "successfully deceiving a match official"


I don't quite understand. Was he banned for overreacting when he was already on the ground? Because in this video I can see neither a dive nor deception. The guy comes up to him and shoves him to the ground with quite a bit of force behind it, which is a clear red for me.


The quite a bit of force can be misleading from the slowmotion in this replay. Not saying it wasnt, but slowmotion can sometimes be terrible to judge such things.

Also you have to remember this is english football....where you actually have contact and stuff like these little shoves happen quite often.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
November 04 2017 10:47 GMT
#2264
On November 04 2017 18:20 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2017 05:02 sneirac wrote:
First time FA uses power to ban players for diving/deception and it is for this:
Original ruling was red on the shove. Red rescinded and 2 game ban for "successfully deceiving a match official"


I don't quite understand. Was he banned for overreacting when he was already on the ground? Because in this video I can see neither a dive nor deception. The guy comes up to him and shoves him to the ground with quite a bit of force behind it, which is a clear red for me.

KobraKay is right, the FA is either arguing that the shove was not enough and totally blown out of proportion or that the player on the ground held his face instead of the chest intentionally in order to try to deceive the referee into harsher punishment.
I don't agree either and the FA has not released official reasoning because they were hurried as the banned player had a game a few hours after the ruling yesterday. Will be interesting to see what happens with appeals next week.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28873 Posts
November 04 2017 12:15 GMT
#2265
I do think the guy looked more injured than the push indicated, but I definitely wasn't expecting this to be the first application of this kind of retraction. It does look like a hard shove. I'd be fine with that only being a yellow card though, but I sorta thought we'd see this applied when it's like, shouldn't have been anything, rather than 'that was probably supposed to be a yellow-orange color rather than red'.
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TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
November 04 2017 13:00 GMT
#2266
Holy moly. We are lucky to not be a man down. WTF Biada. That looked like it was a season threatening foul on Sirigu
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
November 04 2017 13:13 GMT
#2267
Fuck this
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
November 04 2017 15:17 GMT
#2268
On November 04 2017 22:13 TheNewEra wrote:
Fuck this

You escaped with a point!

meanwhile
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
November 04 2017 16:23 GMT
#2269
On November 05 2017 00:17 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2017 22:13 TheNewEra wrote:
Fuck this

You escaped with a point!
+ Show Spoiler +

meanwhile
https://twitter.com/INTER291103/status/926828198121345024


I know. But this was probably our best game this season so far... We were playing like we should be... like a good team from the 2nd Bundesliga, yet we couldn't score goals. Meanwhile Darmstadt were playing like a solid 3rd League team but scored on 2 of their 3 shots

The only reason I'm not completely unhappy is, that we should have been playing with only 10 players since the 1st half. That was one brutal foul. And because it was Patrick Schönfeld who scored the equalizier. He was ill for half a year, got substituted into the game in the 88th minute for his first minutes since a long time and immediately secured a point for us 3 minutes later. Stadion went crazy.
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28873 Posts
November 04 2017 16:53 GMT
#2270
god damnit. first rosenborg concedes a 1-1 goal after 92:54 on thursday. next game I watch, newcastle vs bournemouth, we concede 0-1 after 91:30. Rosenborg was dominant though, and this game has been pretty even, so it's not really that unfair, (although newcastle had a wrongly disallowed goal, but it was super close, hard to blame the ref).
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 04 2017 17:14 GMT
#2271
You Newcastle fan now Drone
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28873 Posts
November 04 2017 17:52 GMT
#2272
ive always been a newcastle fan. I don't care all that much tbh, but I started cheering for them in like, 94. when they had peter beardsley and stuff, that was amazing.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 04 2017 18:20 GMT
#2273
Wow poor drone! Having to suffer all that xD
At least you got to see Shearer score some nice goals
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18713 Posts
November 04 2017 18:23 GMT
#2274
Drone has always been a newcastle fan. The only one in here that I remember?

Btw drone: you told me that I had no reasons to whine being a dortmund fan. We are out of Europe, 6 points behind in BL, lost our best way to gain points to bayern (losing home game right now) and are now 3rd behind Leipzig.

I judged my whining based on the games, not the result. Predicting how dortmund is going to fare was not hard if you watched the games...
At the rate BVB is plummeting atm, we might even fall so much behind that we could lose direct CL qualification for this season...
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28873 Posts
November 04 2017 18:42 GMT
#2275
It's not gonna continue, you'll turn stuff around and end up second or third in bundesliga, and third place in an incredibly tough CL group, against the back to back champions and a great Tottenham team. This is what you posted after the first CL game against Tottenham btw

On September 14 2017 22:14 sharkie wrote:
Game ends up differently if the 2-2 counts. Dortmund have done more than enough to get at least one point yesterday but the referee cheated them.


That's you whining based on the result and blaming the referee, not the performance.

Besides that, you started the season going 6-1-0 with +19 goal difference. That's not luck. Then you've had a genuinely bad 3 week period after that. It happens. You'll turn it around. You're worse than Bayern and Real Madrid, and this season you ended up losing to Tottenham as well. It happens.
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
November 05 2017 14:14 GMT
#2276
Really looking forward to City - Arsenal. Hope it delivers.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 05 2017 14:23 GMT
#2277
Arsenal passing great as usual, but i wish he played a fkn striker and sanchez winger or something, Oh well!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 14:27:43
November 05 2017 14:25 GMT
#2278
Yeah, no Lacazette is a bit of a shame. City finding it very difficult to play their game tho, great pressing so far.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 05 2017 14:28 GMT
#2279
Yeah all the chances are "counters" from City so far which they look dangerous on because Arsenal defenders panicking so to speak but Arsenal look a threat for sure. Good opening 10 mins
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
November 05 2017 14:34 GMT
#2280
Feels like Arsenal got a bit rattled after that chance.
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