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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 15 2017 17:13 GMT
#5141
Because you can't score from halfway line, but for me the issue is the ball isn't where it should have been taken from and the referee is clearly not aware. The Henry situation is where i think a quick freekick should be allowed when he clearly asks the ref and it is all acknowledged.
The Real goal is a "fluke" per se in this day and age as most teams now, i thought every team but clearly not, they throw a player to basically stand on the ball. This then causes the referee to normally force the player away and then no quick freekick can be taken.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 15 2017 17:16 GMT
#5142
On May 16 2017 01:16 zev318 wrote:
funny how the commentator says that u should let the opposing team get organized. u see quick free kicks taken all the time in other parts of the field, with no signal from the ref, so why does it have to be any different there?

It doesn't. The only legit complaint pande really has is that it is 3 meters back from the spot of the foul and 2 meters more central. It takes about 90 minutes of his ranting to understand that tho.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
May 15 2017 17:34 GMT
#5143
On May 16 2017 02:13 Pandemona wrote:
Because you can't score from halfway line, but for me the issue is the ball isn't where it should have been taken from and the referee is clearly not aware. The Henry situation is where i think a quick freekick should be allowed when he clearly asks the ref and it is all acknowledged.
The Real goal is a "fluke" per se in this day and age as most teams now, i thought every team but clearly not, they throw a player to basically stand on the ball. This then causes the referee to normally force the player away and then no quick freekick can be taken.


This isnt a fluke. The ref had his eyes in the ball the whole zimr. Nacho was just the first one to notice it. Smart players get rewarded
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 15 2017 17:42 GMT
#5144
best angle of the referee so far:

https://streamable.com/an8nf
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 15 2017 18:02 GMT
#5145
Well Duck if your around, Conte gave you your wish and mine too i guess.

Begovic,
Zouma, Terry (c), Ake,
Azpilicueta, Kante, Chalobah, Kenedy,
Willian, Batshuayi, Hazard

Kennedy,Chalobah,Ake all get run outs! Along with more time for JT Zouma and championship winning BATMAN
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-15 18:18:54
May 15 2017 18:16 GMT
#5146
On May 16 2017 02:42 sneirac wrote:
best angle of the referee so far:

https://streamable.com/an8nf


While I agree that if I were Seville I would have a player literally hugging the ball at the start of the play there has to be a time within which you can take the free kick. It cant be that theres a guy dawdling on the ground likes hes been shot and defenders are getting in position and the referee then nearly 10 seconds go by and someone saunters in to play the quick quick restart. Also quick free kicks should be indirect. Then again the point remains that the defender can practically sit on the ball if he wants to do that so its reasonably fair.

Thats my opinion on it anyway, but its not a big deal if it stays the way it is. Its a rare enough occurence and kudos if you pick it up.


On May 16 2017 02:16 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2017 01:16 zev318 wrote:
funny how the commentator says that u should let the opposing team get organized. u see quick free kicks taken all the time in other parts of the field, with no signal from the ref, so why does it have to be any different there?

It doesn't. The only legit complaint pande really has is that it is 3 meters back from the spot of the foul and 2 meters more central. It takes about 90 minutes of his ranting to understand that tho.


I think that has to do with the fact that the opinion came before the rationale and then was eventually whittled down to by a process of elimination. Pretty standard.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-15 18:18:48
May 15 2017 18:17 GMT
#5147
eeek double/
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 15 2017 18:34 GMT
#5148
On May 16 2017 03:02 Pandemona wrote:
Well Duck if your around, Conte gave you your wish and mine too i guess.

Begovic,
Zouma, Terry (c), Ake,
Azpilicueta, Kante, Chalobah, Kenedy,
Willian, Batshuayi, Hazard

Kennedy,Chalobah,Ake all get run outs! Along with more time for JT Zouma and championship winning BATMAN


WOOHOOO
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6240 Posts
May 15 2017 19:05 GMT
#5149
Just wanted to share this vid. It's my local FC celebrating the league win with the fans (I'm there somehwere).



A little bit of backstory: I live in a small village (20k) in NL and we have 2 big amateur football clubs. I've played and am a huge fan of one of them (IJsselmeervogels). We're the most succesful amateur FC in Dutch football by far wih 68 titles. Anyway we won the league last saturday for the first time in years. Some of you probably know me as a big Ajax fan but I love IJsselmeervogels way more. This is almost as big as Ajax winning the Europa League for me.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-15 20:27:17
May 15 2017 20:26 GMT
#5150
On May 16 2017 04:05 RvB wrote:
Just wanted to share this vid. It's my local FC celebrating the league win with the fans (I'm there somehwere).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9R22FjhOrE

A little bit of backstory: I live in a small village (20k) in NL and we have 2 big amateur football clubs. I've played and am a huge fan of one of them (IJsselmeervogels). We're the most succesful amateur FC in Dutch football by far wih 68 titles. Anyway we won the league last saturday for the first time in years. Some of you probably know me as a big Ajax fan but I love IJsselmeervogels way more. This is almost as big as Ajax winning the Europa League for me.

IJsselmeervogels I guess is named after a bird in the IJsselmeer? So to which town does your club belong? There should be alot of towns arounda big sea like the IJsselmeer. Or are you some kind of union/spielgemeinschaft between a few cities?
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
May 15 2017 21:01 GMT
#5151
On May 16 2017 02:42 sneirac wrote:
best angle of the referee so far:

https://streamable.com/an8nf


This shows it pretty clearly imo. Ref has a clear view, no madrid player asks for distance.
Just because it's a set of rules that relevant and decisive less often doesn't mean you don't get to exploit knowing the rules better.

Another dumb example from this season would be veratti getting cautioned for doing a backpass with his head. A rule that is hardly ever going to be decisive, but it's up to the players/management to make sure they fucking do.
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3983 Posts
May 15 2017 22:17 GMT
#5152
On May 16 2017 05:26 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2017 04:05 RvB wrote:
Just wanted to share this vid. It's my local FC celebrating the league win with the fans (I'm there somehwere).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9R22FjhOrE

A little bit of backstory: I live in a small village (20k) in NL and we have 2 big amateur football clubs. I've played and am a huge fan of one of them (IJsselmeervogels). We're the most succesful amateur FC in Dutch football by far wih 68 titles. Anyway we won the league last saturday for the first time in years. Some of you probably know me as a big Ajax fan but I love IJsselmeervogels way more. This is almost as big as Ajax winning the Europa League for me.

IJsselmeervogels I guess is named after a bird in the IJsselmeer? So to which town does your club belong? There should be alot of towns arounda big sea like the IJsselmeer. Or are you some kind of union/spielgemeinschaft between a few cities?

They're from Bunschoten-Spakenburg, which is a smelly fisherman's town (formerly 2) on the south side of the IJsselmeer. They're a fantastic team compared to their town size, doing better than the best club from the closest city, Amersfoort (where I live).
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-16 00:29:57
May 16 2017 00:28 GMT
#5153
On May 16 2017 06:01 Divine-Sneaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2017 02:42 sneirac wrote:
best angle of the referee so far:

https://streamable.com/an8nf


This shows it pretty clearly imo. Ref has a clear view, no madrid player asks for distance.
Just because it's a set of rules that relevant and decisive less often doesn't mean you don't get to exploit knowing the rules better.

Another dumb example from this season would be veratti getting cautioned for doing a backpass with his head. A rule that is hardly ever going to be decisive, but it's up to the players/management to make sure they fucking do.

Someone should read the rules in this sport. The players don't know them, the comentators don't know them... How do you even get a job as a comentator when you haven't read the rule book ? The main commentator (you know, the guy with the knowledge) "was counting the seconds" like it matters at all... Everyone can take free kick without a whistle, unless the referee says that the players should wait. That's it. Most of Sevilla's players were not even looking at the ball... Well they learned something the hard way on this day.

Btw, this transfer ban was great for Real Madrid's roster... Now we have Nacho, Lucas and Asensio, because of it.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 16 2017 02:02 GMT
#5154
Ay disaster of a performance from our defence. 1st goal was Terry's fault. 2nd was Zouma's, while Ake could have done better. 3rd was Terry's failure to deal with a cross, and Zouma also not doing enough.This season they never looked comfortable with Terry in it unfortunately. Zouma too needs to rediscover his form.

I still think Kenedy is not a wing back. Limits his potential unless he reinvents himself. He should be playing the attacker. Sadly I don't see a future for him in this club. Also unfortunate that RLC was injured.

I wonder whether they will again use the youngsters, or key the first team sharp ahead of the FA Cup final.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
May 16 2017 04:22 GMT
#5155
On May 16 2017 09:28 Pr0wler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2017 06:01 Divine-Sneaker wrote:
On May 16 2017 02:42 sneirac wrote:
best angle of the referee so far:

https://streamable.com/an8nf


This shows it pretty clearly imo. Ref has a clear view, no madrid player asks for distance.
Just because it's a set of rules that relevant and decisive less often doesn't mean you don't get to exploit knowing the rules better.

Another dumb example from this season would be veratti getting cautioned for doing a backpass with his head. A rule that is hardly ever going to be decisive, but it's up to the players/management to make sure they fucking do.

Someone should read the rules in this sport. The players don't know them, the comentators don't know them... How do you even get a job as a comentator when you haven't read the rule book ? The main commentator (you know, the guy with the knowledge) "was counting the seconds" like it matters at all... Everyone can take free kick without a whistle, unless the referee says that the players should wait. That's it. Most of Sevilla's players were not even looking at the ball... Well they learned something the hard way on this day.

Btw, this transfer ban was great for Real Madrid's roster... Now we have Nacho, Lucas and Asensio, because of it.


Transfer bans are always great for teams with big academies. Because it forces them to look at home
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6240 Posts
May 16 2017 04:25 GMT
#5156
On May 16 2017 07:17 aseq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2017 05:26 TheNewEra wrote:
On May 16 2017 04:05 RvB wrote:
Just wanted to share this vid. It's my local FC celebrating the league win with the fans (I'm there somehwere).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9R22FjhOrE

A little bit of backstory: I live in a small village (20k) in NL and we have 2 big amateur football clubs. I've played and am a huge fan of one of them (IJsselmeervogels). We're the most succesful amateur FC in Dutch football by far wih 68 titles. Anyway we won the league last saturday for the first time in years. Some of you probably know me as a big Ajax fan but I love IJsselmeervogels way more. This is almost as big as Ajax winning the Europa League for me.

IJsselmeervogels I guess is named after a bird in the IJsselmeer? So to which town does your club belong? There should be alot of towns arounda big sea like the IJsselmeer. Or are you some kind of union/spielgemeinschaft between a few cities?

They're from Bunschoten-Spakenburg, which is a smelly fisherman's town (formerly 2) on the south side of the IJsselmeer. They're a fantastic team compared to their town size, doing better than the best club from the closest city, Amersfoort (where I live).

Smelly lmao. But yeah I'm from Bunschoten. The boat that they're on is a botter which in the past was used to fish on the Zuiderzee.
Amersfoort is rather poor football wise. Too bad since it's a decently sized city.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 16 2017 07:50 GMT
#5157
On May 16 2017 11:02 DucK- wrote:
Ay disaster of a performance from our defence. 1st goal was Terry's fault. 2nd was Zouma's, while Ake could have done better. 3rd was Terry's failure to deal with a cross, and Zouma also not doing enough.This season they never looked comfortable with Terry in it unfortunately. Zouma too needs to rediscover his form.

I still think Kenedy is not a wing back. Limits his potential unless he reinvents himself. He should be playing the attacker. Sadly I don't see a future for him in this club. Also unfortunate that RLC was injured.

I wonder whether they will again use the youngsters, or key the first team sharp ahead of the FA Cup final.

Yeah was an interesting game per se like how JT said after the game Conte was telling them, come on lets be the first team to win 30 games in a season. Then they go out and performed like that haha!
Sunday i think all the "big guns" will be back and if RLC is not injured he will either play or get a good chunk of the second half. Win is a win and an entertaining goal fest for the supporters which im sure they didn't really mind in the end haha!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
May 16 2017 08:55 GMT
#5158
Chelsea going to reach a new point record with 93?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 16 2017 09:12 GMT
#5159
Na we already have the record with 95 points, we be a few points short due to Palace and Yanited defeats xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
May 16 2017 10:31 GMT
#5160
According to French media Aubamon has been offered 50kk €/y salary by Tianjin Quanjian.

But I guess he values his lifestyle too much to accept it. Also I doubt this would be the ideal choice for his sons school "career".
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