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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
March 06 2016 14:03 GMT
#161
UFC 196: RNC
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
March 06 2016 14:14 GMT
#162
On March 06 2016 15:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Mcgregor can get away with taking a clean shot from a 145 lb-er but he can't take a clean shot from a 170 lb-er.


They way these guys can control their weight and not kill themselves doing it is amazing. Do you think a Diaz who cut to his normal 155 would of had that same power? Also do you think Connor was "slower" because he also weighed 20+ pounds more then he normally does. I heard Joe Rogan say how interesting it was to see a fight between two guys who didn't have to dehydrate 24 prior to a huge fight. He made it sound like this is how it should be done but as most of you pointed out Connor looked spent in the 2nd. So I guess cutting extreme amounts of weight can mess a fighter up before the fight even starts but so can not cutting at all?
It is what it is
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-06 14:53:44
March 06 2016 14:52 GMT
#163
Mcgregor was gassed because he got punched in the face, not because he weighed more. Also all punches he threw was 100% power because he assumed he could just KO him like he does with his opponents at 145. If you rewatch the first round you can see so easily how he is constantly chasing the left hand KO and is even willing to trade to land it since in his mind he is much stronger than his opponents(he is at 145) and it will be worth it. Not vs a 170 fighter though.
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Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
March 06 2016 15:01 GMT
#164
Do you think that means he would have that same trouble at 155? What does RDA walk around at before he cuts down?
It is what it is
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
March 06 2016 15:16 GMT
#165
http://mmajunkie.com/2015/06/ufc-lightweight-champ-rafael-dos-anjos-sees-welterweight-move-in-his-future
RDA says here that he is walking around at 195.

I think RDA would absolutely murder Connor, unless he is chinny and gets flash KO'd like Aldo(which I don't think he is, he has like 1 KO loss on his record super long ago). Remember RDA beat Nate and manhandled Pettis for 5 extremely high pace rounds. KO'd both Cowboy and Hendersson in 1 round. If RDA gets Connor in a clinch/takedown which I assume is the goal for him in that fight I don't see Connor having any chance at all.
And if Connor gassed this hard after 2 rounds, how will he ever survive 5 vs RDA which is a total beast condition wise.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 06 2016 15:23 GMT
#166
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Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-06 19:18:02
March 06 2016 18:57 GMT
#167
Holy fucking shit i fuckign clapped and yelled fuck yeah like a moron in front of my computer.
FUCK YEAH DIAZ

rofl "I'm not surprised motherfucker"

respect for conor though, he showed that humble in victory or defeat is something he truly believes in.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
March 06 2016 19:13 GMT
#168
[image loading]

god nate's such a hilarious fuckhead
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-06 19:43:36
March 06 2016 19:39 GMT
#169
Meisha beating Holly reminded me of that WW fight Ben Henderson had where he squeaked out a submission finish against a bigger , stronger, longer opponent.
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Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
March 06 2016 21:37 GMT
#170
On March 06 2016 23:14 Dizmaul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2016 15:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Mcgregor can get away with taking a clean shot from a 145 lb-er but he can't take a clean shot from a 170 lb-er.


They way these guys can control their weight and not kill themselves doing it is amazing. Do you think a Diaz who cut to his normal 155 would of had that same power? Also do you think Connor was "slower" because he also weighed 20+ pounds more then he normally does. I heard Joe Rogan say how interesting it was to see a fight between two guys who didn't have to dehydrate 24 prior to a huge fight. He made it sound like this is how it should be done but as most of you pointed out Connor looked spent in the 2nd. So I guess cutting extreme amounts of weight can mess a fighter up before the fight even starts but so can not cutting at all?

McGregor was throwing 100% into his punch, I think that it's likely to be the reason he went out of energy, you can't sprint for 5 fives minute rounds.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17794 Posts
March 07 2016 13:16 GMT
#171
Short term the Tate-Holm result is bad for the UFC. Long term its hard to say how bad it is. Frazier/Foreman/Ali paid off far more than if Ali only had 1 legit opponent.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 07 2016 15:12 GMT
#172
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 07 2016 18:14 GMT
#173
Does it matter for short term? UFC's just looking for the long term growth of the sport, as long as they have competitive fights, I don't think the UFC really cares.
liftlift > tsm
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
March 07 2016 19:03 GMT
#174
yeah - rousey is 100x more marketable than either of those two, and she's already established herself as a brand. women's mma is in its infancy. as one dimensional as she may be, she brings in eyes and money, which leads to future growth.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 09 2016 23:45 GMT
#175
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-11 14:55:44
March 11 2016 14:31 GMT
#176
it looks like EA put a lot into UFC2. biggest thing is EACanada had more than a year of development time. Now it looks like EA is putting a lot of marketing muscle behind the game as well.



On March 08 2016 00:12 JimmiC wrote:
Short term it was great for UFC.


this explains why i think UFC 196 was bad short in the term.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/biggest-loser-after-conor-mcgregor--holly-holm-upsets--the-ufc-101019100-mma.html

for the long term development of the women's division i think UFC 196 was good.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 11 2016 15:08 GMT
#177
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-11 18:29:33
March 11 2016 18:13 GMT
#178
undefeated Holm v. Rousey makes more PPV buys than any other headliner. that's now gone.
i guess its time to take away Dana White's promoter's license... no wonder he hated this fight.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 11 2016 19:06 GMT
#179
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-11 21:56:02
March 11 2016 19:52 GMT
#180
Dana's comments....
http://www.mmamania.com/2016/3/4/11160990/dana-white-absolutely-hates-ufc-196-co-main-event-holly-holm-miesha-tate-mma

if Ronda stated she was suicidal after a fight with Tate..
if Ronda went on SNL and congratulated Tate...
if Ronda stated she wants Tate on Ellen....
if Tate were undefeated...
then Tate v. Rousey is as big a draw as Holm.. it ain't.

had Holm won at UFC 196 she'd be undefeated and facing Rousey
and an undefeated Holm is a better draw than Tate. undefeated champions are huge draws.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/12/3/9842440/dana-white-says-holly-holm-vs-ronda-rousey-immediate-rematch-ufc-mma

and again, i said short term. long term any time you have a fighting champ who takes on the highest available contender its good for the sport. the fact Holm chose to fight rather than wait is good for the entire division long term no matter the result.

1.5 million buys for UFC 196.
funny how UFC keeps PPV buy rates top secret unless they hit a certain really cool sounding big #. sorta reminds me of ATVI.
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