• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 02:02
CET 08:02
KST 16:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners11Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada1SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA3StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4
StarCraft 2
General
SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t Craziest Micro Moments Of All Time? RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close"
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions Where's CardinalAllin/Jukado the mapmaker?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1776 users

UFC/MMA Discussion Thread - Page 9

Forum Index > Sports
Post a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 138 Next
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
March 06 2016 14:03 GMT
#161
UFC 196: RNC
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
March 06 2016 14:14 GMT
#162
On March 06 2016 15:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Mcgregor can get away with taking a clean shot from a 145 lb-er but he can't take a clean shot from a 170 lb-er.


They way these guys can control their weight and not kill themselves doing it is amazing. Do you think a Diaz who cut to his normal 155 would of had that same power? Also do you think Connor was "slower" because he also weighed 20+ pounds more then he normally does. I heard Joe Rogan say how interesting it was to see a fight between two guys who didn't have to dehydrate 24 prior to a huge fight. He made it sound like this is how it should be done but as most of you pointed out Connor looked spent in the 2nd. So I guess cutting extreme amounts of weight can mess a fighter up before the fight even starts but so can not cutting at all?
It is what it is
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-06 14:53:44
March 06 2016 14:52 GMT
#163
Mcgregor was gassed because he got punched in the face, not because he weighed more. Also all punches he threw was 100% power because he assumed he could just KO him like he does with his opponents at 145. If you rewatch the first round you can see so easily how he is constantly chasing the left hand KO and is even willing to trade to land it since in his mind he is much stronger than his opponents(he is at 145) and it will be worth it. Not vs a 170 fighter though.
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
March 06 2016 15:01 GMT
#164
Do you think that means he would have that same trouble at 155? What does RDA walk around at before he cuts down?
It is what it is
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
March 06 2016 15:16 GMT
#165
http://mmajunkie.com/2015/06/ufc-lightweight-champ-rafael-dos-anjos-sees-welterweight-move-in-his-future
RDA says here that he is walking around at 195.

I think RDA would absolutely murder Connor, unless he is chinny and gets flash KO'd like Aldo(which I don't think he is, he has like 1 KO loss on his record super long ago). Remember RDA beat Nate and manhandled Pettis for 5 extremely high pace rounds. KO'd both Cowboy and Hendersson in 1 round. If RDA gets Connor in a clinch/takedown which I assume is the goal for him in that fight I don't see Connor having any chance at all.
And if Connor gassed this hard after 2 rounds, how will he ever survive 5 vs RDA which is a total beast condition wise.
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 06 2016 15:23 GMT
#166
--- Nuked ---
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-06 19:18:02
March 06 2016 18:57 GMT
#167
Holy fucking shit i fuckign clapped and yelled fuck yeah like a moron in front of my computer.
FUCK YEAH DIAZ

rofl "I'm not surprised motherfucker"

respect for conor though, he showed that humble in victory or defeat is something he truly believes in.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32084 Posts
March 06 2016 19:13 GMT
#168
[image loading]

god nate's such a hilarious fuckhead
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16973 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-06 19:43:36
March 06 2016 19:39 GMT
#169
Meisha beating Holly reminded me of that WW fight Ben Henderson had where he squeaked out a submission finish against a bigger , stronger, longer opponent.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
March 06 2016 21:37 GMT
#170
On March 06 2016 23:14 Dizmaul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2016 15:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Mcgregor can get away with taking a clean shot from a 145 lb-er but he can't take a clean shot from a 170 lb-er.


They way these guys can control their weight and not kill themselves doing it is amazing. Do you think a Diaz who cut to his normal 155 would of had that same power? Also do you think Connor was "slower" because he also weighed 20+ pounds more then he normally does. I heard Joe Rogan say how interesting it was to see a fight between two guys who didn't have to dehydrate 24 prior to a huge fight. He made it sound like this is how it should be done but as most of you pointed out Connor looked spent in the 2nd. So I guess cutting extreme amounts of weight can mess a fighter up before the fight even starts but so can not cutting at all?

McGregor was throwing 100% into his punch, I think that it's likely to be the reason he went out of energy, you can't sprint for 5 fives minute rounds.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16973 Posts
March 07 2016 13:16 GMT
#171
Short term the Tate-Holm result is bad for the UFC. Long term its hard to say how bad it is. Frazier/Foreman/Ali paid off far more than if Ali only had 1 legit opponent.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 07 2016 15:12 GMT
#172
--- Nuked ---
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 07 2016 18:14 GMT
#173
Does it matter for short term? UFC's just looking for the long term growth of the sport, as long as they have competitive fights, I don't think the UFC really cares.
liftlift > tsm
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32084 Posts
March 07 2016 19:03 GMT
#174
yeah - rousey is 100x more marketable than either of those two, and she's already established herself as a brand. women's mma is in its infancy. as one dimensional as she may be, she brings in eyes and money, which leads to future growth.
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 09 2016 23:45 GMT
#175
--- Nuked ---
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16973 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-11 14:55:44
March 11 2016 14:31 GMT
#176
it looks like EA put a lot into UFC2. biggest thing is EACanada had more than a year of development time. Now it looks like EA is putting a lot of marketing muscle behind the game as well.



On March 08 2016 00:12 JimmiC wrote:
Short term it was great for UFC.


this explains why i think UFC 196 was bad short in the term.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/biggest-loser-after-conor-mcgregor--holly-holm-upsets--the-ufc-101019100-mma.html

for the long term development of the women's division i think UFC 196 was good.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 11 2016 15:08 GMT
#177
--- Nuked ---
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16973 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-11 18:29:33
March 11 2016 18:13 GMT
#178
undefeated Holm v. Rousey makes more PPV buys than any other headliner. that's now gone.
i guess its time to take away Dana White's promoter's license... no wonder he hated this fight.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 11 2016 19:06 GMT
#179
--- Nuked ---
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16973 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-11 21:56:02
March 11 2016 19:52 GMT
#180
Dana's comments....
http://www.mmamania.com/2016/3/4/11160990/dana-white-absolutely-hates-ufc-196-co-main-event-holly-holm-miesha-tate-mma

if Ronda stated she was suicidal after a fight with Tate..
if Ronda went on SNL and congratulated Tate...
if Ronda stated she wants Tate on Ellen....
if Tate were undefeated...
then Tate v. Rousey is as big a draw as Holm.. it ain't.

had Holm won at UFC 196 she'd be undefeated and facing Rousey
and an undefeated Holm is a better draw than Tate. undefeated champions are huge draws.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/12/3/9842440/dana-white-says-holly-holm-vs-ronda-rousey-immediate-rematch-ufc-mma

and again, i said short term. long term any time you have a fighting champ who takes on the highest available contender its good for the sport. the fact Holm chose to fight rather than wait is good for the entire division long term no matter the result.

1.5 million buys for UFC 196.
funny how UFC keeps PPV buy rates top secret unless they hit a certain really cool sounding big #. sorta reminds me of ATVI.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 138 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 58m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 940
Tasteless 285
ToSsGirL 29
Icarus 11
Dota 2
XaKoH 112
League of Legends
JimRising 584
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 457
Other Games
summit1g16128
C9.Mang0103
NeuroSwarm53
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick680
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH200
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt514
Other Games
• Scarra1158
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Korean Royale
4h 58m
OSC
9h 58m
Replay Cast
15h 58m
Replay Cast
1d 1h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 4h
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
1d 15h
The PondCast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
BSL 21
4 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
BSL 21
5 days
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.