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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 14 2015 22:09 GMT
#4101
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
December 15 2015 01:41 GMT
#4102
Leicester City Number 1!!!

Taking care of business at home against a team one point above the relegation spots. Those are games that a top caliber team wins. Hehe.

Speaking of which, Bournemouth is now ahead of that team that is one point above the relegation spots.
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malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
December 15 2015 02:32 GMT
#4103
lol... chelsea so fucking pathetic =/ From Heroes to Zeroes. What happened man... The more I think about it, the more it feels like Mou completely fucked up the dressing room with his media antics
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
December 15 2015 02:52 GMT
#4104
Nah there is no way Chelsea will get relegated, with the amount of talents they have, they're bound to win a game here and there, enough to save themselves.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
December 15 2015 09:07 GMT
#4105
After two weeks of not touching Fpl i had the chance of captaining Ozil against Villa or Lukaku against Norwich... But I knew Mahrez would bring the bacon home against the blues hah :D
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 15 2015 09:10 GMT
#4106
Yeah Chelsea won't get relegated thats a fact however there is major issues here. We need to sack players, that needs to be made a possibility and fast it is not right how they can just play like utter trash and get away with it. If a manager starts to go to shit he gets sacked, if anyone in their job drops their performance it is a matter of time before they are let go or sacked. Why can't that work for footballers without having to wait for a transfer window etc, its shit.

Is a couple of players in that Chelsea team that deserve to stay and play for the club, the rest should be sacked on the spot and told to go.

I fear the easy fix is to get rid of the manager and fold again to player power, but the problem is that aint gonna help the players dont deserve it. Like a Chelsea poster posted today, this is a 21st century Julius Cesar happening, players are publicly executing him.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8943 Posts
December 15 2015 09:21 GMT
#4107
players do get 'sacked', its called being benched
your team just doesnt have good enough players if you bench your starting 11, which is why no one is being benched lol
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6344 Posts
December 15 2015 09:23 GMT
#4108
On December 15 2015 18:21 evilfatsh1t wrote:
players do get 'sacked', its called being benched
your team just doesnt have good enough players if you bench your starting 11, which is why no one is being benched lol

This is the same team that stomped the PL last year, you can't say they aren't good enough. The just don't want to play.
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Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
December 15 2015 10:01 GMT
#4109
if the players have the quality maybe it's the managers fault
sacking the manager worked for mönchengladbach and dortmund (to be fair klopp started to recover in the 2nd half of the season, but still)



Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18494 Posts
December 15 2015 10:58 GMT
#4110
On December 15 2015 18:10 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah Chelsea won't get relegated thats a fact however there is major issues here. We need to sack players, that needs to be made a possibility and fast it is not right how they can just play like utter trash and get away with it. If a manager starts to go to shit he gets sacked, if anyone in their job drops their performance it is a matter of time before they are let go or sacked. Why can't that work for footballers without having to wait for a transfer window etc, its shit.

Is a couple of players in that Chelsea team that deserve to stay and play for the club, the rest should be sacked on the spot and told to go.

I fear the easy fix is to get rid of the manager and fold again to player power, but the problem is that aint gonna help the players dont deserve it. Like a Chelsea poster posted today, this is a 21st century Julius Cesar happening, players are publicly executing him.

What are you on about? Players can get sacked at any time (under normal labor rules). The problem is that teams don't ever want to sack players, because they are investments in addition to employees. And sacking the player also means writing off the investment.

Instead, players get benched, or relegated to the B team. If players are playing like shit and not getting benched, that's the manager's (and technical team's) fault. Either they didn't get decent replacement players, which is kinda inexcusable for a team with unlimited money, or the manager isn't seeing that the player is shit, equally inexcusable. Managers aren't generally considered an investment and are prone to getting sacked.
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
December 15 2015 11:07 GMT
#4111
Bournemouth where in a bit of bother until they beat United and Chelsea.

Whilst Newcastle got out of the relegation zone by beating Liverpool and Spurs.

Spurs have lost to Newcastle at home 3 years in a row regardless of how shit Newcasle have been.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8943 Posts
December 15 2015 11:17 GMT
#4112
On December 15 2015 18:23 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 18:21 evilfatsh1t wrote:
players do get 'sacked', its called being benched
your team just doesnt have good enough players if you bench your starting 11, which is why no one is being benched lol

This is the same team that stomped the PL last year, you can't say they aren't good enough. The just don't want to play.

exactly, so you bench them and let them not play just as they wish. the only problem is your team has no depth so you cant really field subs and expect results, meaning you either have to choose between discipline and shit results, or no discipline and low chance of players actually turning up
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-15 12:29:42
December 15 2015 12:28 GMT
#4113
Benching a player is not sacking a player. You are paying his wages which at any top club around Europe is alot of money. A full on sacking a player like i would if i got sacked tomorrow would be heres the pay you to the day you worked see you later. Benching a player at a big club does not work, one they wait for transfer window and leave or two they sit there and dont care. The Chelsea players who need to go do not deserve that, they should all be gone this morning sacked good luck.

Yes this team won the league last season but like Mourinho said last night "Were these players playing way beyond expectation last season? Were we over achieving" etc etc

I would like some players to go fast and us to buy 5 or 6 in January, players who want to play for the club who want to win and want to try. Last night 2 players came over to acknowledge the away fans after not turning up for 60minutes last night. Shocking!
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danzii
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany75 Posts
December 15 2015 12:36 GMT
#4114
Out of curiosity: Who do you want to see gone for good?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-15 12:41:53
December 15 2015 12:40 GMT
#4115
More who do you want to keep. Zouma, Tibo, JT just to be around the team Cahill. Costa i would think long and hard about but if Atletico wanted to give £30million to have him back take him. If not he would stay. Cesc i think needs others to go so he can find another position so i would keep him. Willian also.

The rest = Gone

The rest are also clearly the ones who cannot be bothered which is the reason. Hazard last night clearly does not want to play for Mourinho. He gets shoulder barged, falls over (was a hefty fall) onto his hip and seems to use it as an excuse and walks off lol.
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Azza
Profile Joined June 2010
China650 Posts
December 15 2015 12:51 GMT
#4116
I think you would be lucky to get 20mil for Costa with his attitude and form. I wanted him for Arsenal, even more so after his start to last season. Dodged a bullet there, he's nothing but trouble. Worse than Balotelli.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 15 2015 12:58 GMT
#4117
He tries, but it seems he has an issue with England or London at the moment, keeps dreaming of Atletico return where he knows all players try 110% etc. This Chelsea team isn't only certain players put the shift in, too many egos etc. Reason i would put the feelers out to Atletico if they wanted him back if they did and were willing to pay for that then so be it, if not he can stay too.
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Azza
Profile Joined June 2010
China650 Posts
December 15 2015 13:06 GMT
#4118
I really don't like JM that much, but I hope he stays and can sell off the players he feels are betraying him. Let him have his run in the CL, they will no doubt avoid relegation. And give him 10 games into next season.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 15 2015 13:13 GMT
#4119
Whilst that is what i too agree, give him the right to throw the players he doesn't want out and get new ones in. But he knew his team and he still made an error or two in terms of judgement. Giving them longer off in the summer caused Costa to come back unfit by the looks, most players seem to took the biscuit with that and did not start at all well. Then add in the challenging the players to early cuz results went wrong and fell out with him you are ended up with this.

Quite extraordinary what has happened but us as Chelsea fans want him to be the one to fix it, if he can.
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Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
December 15 2015 14:12 GMT
#4120
After Jose Mourinho's comments about his team after the match I just don't see him ending the season with Chelsea avoiding relegation unless Chelsea sell at least 5 players and replacing them. What was it something like they betrayed him and last year he brought them to a level that was not their level and now they are not trying. That won't sit well...

Pedro and Willian both looked like they wanted to win, but Costa has lost his way, Hazard looked like he wanted nothing to do with JM when he walked out, and the backline is terrible. Oscar was good 2 years ago, but really poor now. Its odd that at least Oscar, Ivanovic, Terry, Costa, and Hazard are having individually horrible campaigns and I don't think it all comes down to the coach. I mean Costa has scored what 6 goals in this calendar year? His problems started last year.

Over the last few weeks it seemed like Chelsea was playing better, but just not scoring and giving up goals against the run of play, but that's the problem.
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