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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
May 10 2015 05:54 GMT
#761
hunt looked terrible
too bad i bet on a stipe decision
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-10 18:01:25
May 10 2015 17:58 GMT
#762
the UFC introduces all these new standards about ring attire and advertising logos. we got 100,000 new rules governing the smallest of details about advertising on fighters. LOL

Well Tom Brady, move over. Deflate-gate ain't got nuttin' on Smilin' Sam Alvey...

[image loading]

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/5/10/8581207/ufc-exec-on-sam-alveys-spray-tan-sponsor-logo-fighters-definitely
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23581 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-10 18:01:10
May 10 2015 18:00 GMT
#763
On May 11 2015 02:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
the UFC introduces all these new standards about ring attire and advertising logos. we got 100,000 new rules governing the smallest of details about advertising on fighters. LOL

Well Tom Brady, move over. Deflate-gate ain't got nuttin' on Smilin' Sam Alvey...

[image loading]


Don't want that ad money to get diverted around Zuffa and all end up in the fighters pocket, that would be tragic. I do have to note the comedy of picking a fair skinned red head to advertise a tanning company though.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-10 18:12:51
May 10 2015 18:09 GMT
#764
i'd say getting a fair skinned red head to have a nice deep ,dark tan is the most difficult task for a tanning company. making Alvey the ideal candidate to advertise how amazing they are.

fair skinned red heads burn really, really easily... of course if this is one of those spray-on tans... then well ... it is hilarious.

i wonder if Sam is getting bonus money from these guys because of all the additional news headlines as UFC execs lay the hammer down on Sam.
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
May 12 2015 03:03 GMT
#765

fuckin beast

although aldo at -130 is crazy
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 13:15:14
May 12 2015 13:14 GMT
#766
in her first interview since losing the strawweight title Carla Esparza admitted she did not want to be in the ring that night and that she didn't want to fight. Helwani and a few other MMA journalists speculated this before the fight based on her body language and mannerisms.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/5/11/8573771/the-mma-hour-with-khabib-nurmagomedov-carlos-condit-carla-esparza

she said she wants to take her next fight in 6 months. it sounds to me like she still doesn't want to fight.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 12 2015 19:05 GMT
#767
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
May 13 2015 05:30 GMT
#768
nazgul doesn't post here much but it'd be nice to share some thoughts on sports betting

I put 50 down on mayweather for my first bet. Easiest 25 bucks ever
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
May 13 2015 05:32 GMT
#769
MMA managers to meet in vegas prior to UFC 187

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/5/12/8595729/managers-expected-to-meet-in-las-vegas-to-discuss-business-of-mma

good for them trying to get more money for both themselves and the fighters
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17190 Posts
May 13 2015 17:19 GMT
#770
well i guess the reebok pay structure will be discussed

maybe they'll come up with a unified counter-proposal

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/5/13/8594471/its-gotta-be-fixed-mma-managers-speak-out-on-ufc-reebok-pay-structure
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 13 2015 17:24 GMT
#771
I guess the biggest problem right now is UFC owns the fighters, and thus if UFC has contract obligations to a sponsor, their fighters have to have the same obligations (as far as representing the sponsor). So it's hard for fighters to have their personal sponsors because of chances that they might be competition with UFC current contract obligation with their sponsors.
liftlift > tsm
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-13 18:34:23
May 13 2015 18:33 GMT
#772
On May 14 2015 02:24 wei2coolman wrote:
I guess the biggest problem right now is UFC owns the fighters, and thus if UFC has contract obligations to a sponsor, their fighters have to have the same obligations (as far as representing the sponsor). So it's hard for fighters to have their personal sponsors because of chances that they might be competition with UFC current contract obligation with their sponsors.


This is normal i think: When reebok sponsors LA lakers, koby aint allowed to wear nike's during a lakers game, seems logical, no? Is it bad?
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 13 2015 18:44 GMT
#773
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 13 2015 18:53 GMT
#774
On May 14 2015 03:33 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 02:24 wei2coolman wrote:
I guess the biggest problem right now is UFC owns the fighters, and thus if UFC has contract obligations to a sponsor, their fighters have to have the same obligations (as far as representing the sponsor). So it's hard for fighters to have their personal sponsors because of chances that they might be competition with UFC current contract obligation with their sponsors.


This is normal i think: When reebok sponsors LA lakers, koby aint allowed to wear nike's during a lakers game, seems logical, no? Is it bad?

It'd actually be more like the Bose vs Beats thing going on in the NFL. While during game time, they can't be wearing beats otherwise players get fined, but players can still sponsor Beats individually. The thing is, there's so much advertising money, Beats is more than willing to pay the player fines in regards to wearing product when doing NFL stuff (such as wearing their earbuds during warm-up on the field)
liftlift > tsm
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
May 13 2015 18:57 GMT
#775
On May 14 2015 03:53 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 03:33 govie wrote:
On May 14 2015 02:24 wei2coolman wrote:
I guess the biggest problem right now is UFC owns the fighters, and thus if UFC has contract obligations to a sponsor, their fighters have to have the same obligations (as far as representing the sponsor). So it's hard for fighters to have their personal sponsors because of chances that they might be competition with UFC current contract obligation with their sponsors.


This is normal i think: When reebok sponsors LA lakers, koby aint allowed to wear nike's during a lakers game, seems logical, no? Is it bad?

It'd actually be more like the Bose vs Beats thing going on in the NFL. While during game time, they can't be wearing beats otherwise players get fined, but players can still sponsor Beats individually. The thing is, there's so much advertising money, Beats is more than willing to pay the player fines in regards to wearing product when doing NFL stuff (such as wearing their earbuds during warm-up on the field)


Exactly, quite similar.

I do think that the top mma stars should not complain too much, the lower ranked players also need some money to survive, else the mma competition could not exist. Depending on how the money is divided, i think collective sponsorships can be a good thing.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 13 2015 19:00 GMT
#776
On May 14 2015 03:57 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 03:53 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 14 2015 03:33 govie wrote:
On May 14 2015 02:24 wei2coolman wrote:
I guess the biggest problem right now is UFC owns the fighters, and thus if UFC has contract obligations to a sponsor, their fighters have to have the same obligations (as far as representing the sponsor). So it's hard for fighters to have their personal sponsors because of chances that they might be competition with UFC current contract obligation with their sponsors.


This is normal i think: When reebok sponsors LA lakers, koby aint allowed to wear nike's during a lakers game, seems logical, no? Is it bad?

It'd actually be more like the Bose vs Beats thing going on in the NFL. While during game time, they can't be wearing beats otherwise players get fined, but players can still sponsor Beats individually. The thing is, there's so much advertising money, Beats is more than willing to pay the player fines in regards to wearing product when doing NFL stuff (such as wearing their earbuds during warm-up on the field)


Exactly, quite similar.

I do think that the top mma stars should not complain too much, the lower ranked players also need some money to survive, else the mma competition could not exist. Depending on how the money is divided, i think collective sponsorships can be a good thing.

While I'm sure top MMA stars are still pulling in cash, based on the current tier-list of award, they technically are hurt the worst from the deal. 40k is chump change compared to what they were getting before from sponsors, but the difference was the fight pouch was big enough that the extra sponsor money wasn't essential to their cost of living to prepare for the next fight.

This shit just stinks for all the fighters, whoever organized the deal really fucked up this time.
liftlift > tsm
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
May 13 2015 21:37 GMT
#777
On May 14 2015 03:57 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 03:53 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 14 2015 03:33 govie wrote:
On May 14 2015 02:24 wei2coolman wrote:
I guess the biggest problem right now is UFC owns the fighters, and thus if UFC has contract obligations to a sponsor, their fighters have to have the same obligations (as far as representing the sponsor). So it's hard for fighters to have their personal sponsors because of chances that they might be competition with UFC current contract obligation with their sponsors.


This is normal i think: When reebok sponsors LA lakers, koby aint allowed to wear nike's during a lakers game, seems logical, no? Is it bad?

It'd actually be more like the Bose vs Beats thing going on in the NFL. While during game time, they can't be wearing beats otherwise players get fined, but players can still sponsor Beats individually. The thing is, there's so much advertising money, Beats is more than willing to pay the player fines in regards to wearing product when doing NFL stuff (such as wearing their earbuds during warm-up on the field)


Exactly, quite similar.

I do think that the top mma stars should not complain too much, the lower ranked players also need some money to survive, else the mma competition could not exist. Depending on how the money is divided, i think collective sponsorships can be a good thing.


lower ranked fighters were doing just fine, even the ones lower than schaub
© Current year.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17190 Posts
May 13 2015 21:38 GMT
#778
If the UFC stuck to the published details of the Reebok deal then i think u r correct that top MMA stars would be hurt the most.

However, i think Dana and Uncle Frank have cut separate special customized deals for the top stars to make sure their income either stays the same or improves.

Around the time hte Reebok deal was first introduced ...If you listen carefully to interviews done with people like Rhonda and Conor they allude to these customized special deals.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 13 2015 23:06 GMT
#779
When i say "hurt the most" i'm talking about numerically, but as a career, it's most punishing for the mid-tier, and low-tier fighters.
liftlift > tsm
Amarant1995
Profile Joined August 2013
Croatia155 Posts
May 13 2015 23:18 GMT
#780
Anyone here thinks McGregor will beat Aldo ? I have weird feeling that stylisticly Conor is a bad fight for Aldo because of his unorthodox movement and striking in general. Aldo has decent leg kicks that could take some strength and speed from Conor if they land. What you guys think ?
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