EPTNBA 2014-2015 Regular Season - Page 34
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
But I agree that it's a circular argument though ;D. In the end, there is a balance to strike between Kobe shooting a lot (because he's still by far the best scorer in their team and he can handle the pressure) and passing more to his teammates so that they can relieve him a bit. So far that balance hasn't been found, obviously. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On November 17 2014 21:17 Vindicare605 wrote: I keep trying to tell people this. Even if Kobe took the minimum, the free agent market in 2014-2015 was totally pointless. We would've had to have landed every major free agent (Melo, Love AND Bosh) just to have a chance in the west with the roster we had to support them. The West is simply too stacked and after all our good role and bench players left for more money on other teams what was left? This lot. The Lakers simply need a solid long term rebuild. Right, but I was saying this 2 years ago when I said they needed to amnesty him. Just a year ago, we were still hearing about how the Lakers were going to rebuild by 2015-16, and the sane people said the only way to rebuild that quickly is to take an immediate hit back then. You realize the rebuilding process hasn't even started yet, right? They're still in the tear-down process, and then they need to acquire young talent. This thing is like 3-4 years out. On November 18 2014 03:44 ZenithM wrote: It does makes some sense though. The more you shoot the more defensive focus you draw and the less your FG% will be high. It's easier to maintain a good FG% when you essentially never shoot. But I agree that it's a circular argument though ;D. In the end, there is a balance to strike between Kobe shooting a lot (because he's still by far the best scorer in their team and he can handle the pressure) and passing more to his teammates so that they can relieve him a bit. So far that balance hasn't been found, obviously. Part of the discussion has to be how are they going to develop talent if the other players don't get opportunities? How many of the current Lakers could realistically be counted on in a rebuilding effort? There is some talent on that roster, it's just young and underdeveloped. I remember an old interview with Grant Hill when he was at Duke, and he basically said he made a conscious effort to help develop the young guys for the good of the team come tournament time, rather than play at his very peak. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On November 18 2014 00:56 oneofthem wrote: everyone talking about kobe's volume low% shooting, but look at harden. harden has no excuse of shit teammates+20 years of mileage either. Harden's shooting is terrible right now but his main ability is drawing free throws, which he's doing a phenomenal job at. I hate Harden's game, but I do think 2 FTs are more valuable than 1 FG, especially with the way they're built and play D. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On November 17 2014 21:21 Vindicare605 wrote: You admitted already that you aren't watching the games. Watch one. Tell me where in the fuck Lin is going to get his shots from. Our off ball movement is horrid, our bigs are not good in the pick and roll (Hill and Davis can't shoot reliably, Boozer is fucking Boozer) and Lin isn't a great 3 point shooter. We have no spacing to free up Lin to drive the ball because Young, and Kelly are both out which leaves us with next to no outside shooters. Our bench is a complete joke. Kobe shoots a lot because our offense sucks. It is NOT because he's just hogging the ball from otherwise capable players. People that are only looking at the box scores can delude themselves with that idea all they want. Watch the team play, then just sit back and let them tank. Whether Kobe shoots or not this team is tanking. It is not going anywhere and it cannot beat any of the teams out West. It's really that simple. It doesn't matter how bad your team is - it's impossible to win with one guy taking over more than 30% of the team's usage and hitting at a far below league average rate. I don't need to watch the games to see that  Kobe is sitting in the -20 RPM ratings which is ungodly bad. I keep hearing people screaming about team's doubling Kobe - well duh. He won't pass the ball - why would they stop doubling? His teammates can't get into a rhythm because he keeps chucking. His teammates suck, well guess what? Kobe shooting at historically bad levels is sinking them even further. Who cares about ridiculous concepts like spacing or who else can score when one guy keeps hijacking the offense? It's been 10 games now, you can't seriously still think the lack of talent is the primary issue out there. These are still NBA players, the answer is to let them show it. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On November 18 2014 03:56 oneofthem wrote: well yes, the free throws and 3's are what's keeping his usually high TS%. but that has tumbled around .100 points this year. in the playoffs he's been shut down by targeted defense before, so this trend of less efficiency may be a thing to come for harden as teams learn how to defend him. Probably. The numbers he's putting up right now are pretty similar to what he does in the playoffs. I'm not really sure if the Rockets are better or worse than they were last year. The West as a whole seems to be playing a bit worse right now, so maybe that's helping them. It is interesting that they went from 2nd PPG / 23rd OPPG to 18th PPG / 1st OPPG. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Ace
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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Ace
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Akfekeht
Croatia10 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On November 18 2014 04:08 Ace wrote: The difference between Harden and Kobe aside from the FT rate is that Harden isn't a league worst defender or turnover machine, in addition the very high assist and rebound rates. His scoring may be ugly but he's a big plus in other areas that help his team win when he isn't bricking. Kobe leads the league in usage actually, he's pretty close to 40% which is actually the highest usage rate of his entire career. This is simply hilarious. I'm actually really surprised that his turnover rate isn't that high - he's sitting right at his career average. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
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Akfekeht
Croatia10 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Daozzt
United States1263 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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