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ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 05:20:19
March 31 2015 05:19 GMT
#2861
Spurs are starting to look scary again after having taken down the Grizzlies. They've won 8 out of their last 11 games, including teams like OKC (although short-handed), Mavs, Hawks, Grizzlies. I'd hate to be the 3rd seed in the west right now.
darkness overpowering
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
March 31 2015 05:23 GMT
#2862


It's probably confirmation bias but I feel like players are better with masks
Yhamm is the god of predictions
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 01 2015 02:10 GMT
#2863
Good god, what a crazy person Beasley is. Commit a nasty foul with a huge chance of causing a leg injury, then bitch violently about the call.
Freeeeeeedom
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
April 01 2015 02:39 GMT
#2864
Who did he foul?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-01 02:55:47
April 01 2015 02:52 GMT
#2865
Ginobili. It was an illegal screen where he basically missed stepping on the outside of his mid-tibia and collapsing his leg inward by an inch (hit the leg with his toe and it slipped off). Probably ends Ginobili's season if he is that inch over.

And lol Blake did get lucky right there in our modern NBA.
Freeeeeeedom
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
April 01 2015 13:40 GMT
#2866
A little late to the party but holy crap did anyone expect Kerr and Golden State to be this good? There's like 8 games left and assuming they win all of them (which isn't unlikely) they'll be 3 games off the best NBA record of all time.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
April 01 2015 16:04 GMT
#2867
All dem Paul ankle meme so gewd
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 01 2015 23:44 GMT
#2868
On March 30 2015 17:27 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 09:53 oneofthem wrote:
On March 30 2015 06:57 DystopiaX wrote:
On March 29 2015 22:44 oneofthem wrote:
wiggins season is more impressive given that he's a very raw 19 year old starting the year, while mirotic has had much more pro experience. i'd go noel over mirotic just based on noel's defensive impact.


not sure how playing on a worse team is a knock against wiggins. minny's spacing is hilariously bad, and he played the majority of the year with some truly horrible possession players like mo williams and thad young. he's getting his points in pretty tough ways and not reliant on offense created by other players.

I think playing on a good team is more meaningful because of overall team impact and such. I would value overall team performance and winning into any individual award such as this one, MVP, etc. Obviously if there's a better performance then you give it to that person.

I don't think age should matter for ROTY either, imo it should go to the best player eligible. For example Lillard played 3 years of college but that didn't invalidate his candidacy either.

I personally would vote for Mirotic to win but could see an argument for Wiggins because Mirotic only started getting a ton of minutes when people when down for injury. Wiggins is a little better of a shot creator but Mirotic's getting a decent number of his points off drives and as the ballhandler in a 4/5 PnR (which is hilarious to watch) and in the post. He's not just a spot-up shooter/roll man.

if you can look halfway decent on a team coached by Byron Scott you're probably a good player.

i'm looking at this strictly from the perspective of 'who's done the most to showcase himself as a prospect." it's essentially a trade value ranking for me. i don't know how to balance between potential and current production, but i consider both.

i think wiggins has shown more and proven his high ceiling skills like scoring near the basket and being a lock down defender (see his performance against harden) over a longer time. the experience factor is relevant in evaluating the prospect's growth potential.

i haven't watched mirotic much admittedly, but i feel that he's not as rare of an asset. a good 2 is really rare in the league, and 2 is wiggins' most effective position. nerlenes noel has elite defensive ability already at c, and tha'ts hugely valuable too. mirotic is a scoring, spacing guy and that mode of player is more replaceable even though it's important for an offense to have one.

He's a scoring spacing guy that can potentially switch on a PnR on defense (not the best at it but serviceable), play 3 if need be (not as good as 4 but goddamn were the bulls shorthanded) guard 5s on some possessions. He's not Ryan Anderson, he can post up decent as well and like I said has the ability to catch, pump fake, and drive for a layup. He's a pretty good passer out of the pick and roll. He's a good defender.

Yes he's primarily a 3 and D guy but he's a REALLY good 3 and D guy and as I said, can do more than that when need be, it's not like he's averaging 20 ppg by sitting at the 3 point line and launching bombs.

I think people in general overvalue ball handling and undervalue utility players who do a lot of everything. Yes you need ball handlers, yes being a ball handler makes you extremely valuable, but there's also a lot to be said for a guy who can do multiple things on both ends of the floor at a high level. If you don't have enough of those guys then you end up in an OKC situation where a lot of their bench players either can only primarily play offense or primarily play defense.

If you look at it from a trade value which guy potentially has a better ceiling then I'd agree with you- Wiggins has the potential to be a huge star, Mirotic tops out as a 3rd option, but a really good one. However I don't think potential is the only/biggest criteria for the award because at some point you're guessing how good people are going to be. I think I also thought of ROTY as "which rookie has played the best in their rookie year", and to me I would give it to Mirotic because he's more valuable as a player to his team this year.

well another part of the problem with mirotic is that the argument for him is very narrow. it's not a 'overall body of work' or 'potential' argument. the body of work you have to craft this argument around is few in minutes and games. i don't really see how it would work.

We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
April 02 2015 08:20 GMT
#2869
Barnes fucking dirty as usual but dat Kamen shove...
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 03 2015 00:50 GMT
#2870
Wouldn't have minded the flagrant 2 on the shove on Chris Paul tbh, and I was rooting for the Blazers.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-03 22:25:01
April 03 2015 22:20 GMT
#2871


Lesson learned, never fall with your crotch right under the hoop.

edit: Just to enhance the pain of a basketball dropping 10-feet onto your jewels.
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"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
April 04 2015 00:05 GMT
#2872
Does the NBA do that thing where division winners are seeded above non-division winners? because right now the T-Blazers are ranked above the Clippers and Spurs despite having a worse record.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
April 04 2015 00:19 GMT
#2873
yes i think so
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XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
April 04 2015 00:37 GMT
#2874
Division winners are seeded higher but don't have homecourt advantage against opponents with better record.
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
April 04 2015 01:03 GMT
#2875
Waiting for the Cav/Hawks series.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 04 2015 01:08 GMT
#2876
I want to see Heat/Cavs just to see how dirty Birdman and Haslem play.
Freeeeeeedom
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13296 Posts
April 04 2015 02:28 GMT
#2877
Waiters is unbelievably bad.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13296 Posts
April 04 2015 03:01 GMT
#2878
So if the Pels win today v the Kings they're only .5 back from OKC. Here's the run home for both:

Pels, currently 41-34 (counting they beat Kings today)
@Portland
vs GS
@ Mem
vs Phx
@Hou
@ Minny
vs Spurs

A lot will come down to which high seeds rest players in games. I think Mem, Hou and Portland will play them full strength as they're still jockeying for seeds. GS and SA may rest guys. I'll give them four wins for 45-37 finish.

OKC, current 42-34
vs Hou
vs Spurs
vs Kings
@ Indy
vs Portland
@ Minny

Hmmm, a much easier run. I think they win at least 4, possibly 5 which gets them to 46/47 wins.

Can anyone see the Pels making it?

"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
April 04 2015 04:59 GMT
#2879
On April 04 2015 09:37 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Division winners are seeded higher but don't have homecourt advantage against opponents with better record.

It affects matchups tho which is retarded Id rather play MIL than WAS
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
April 04 2015 05:49 GMT
#2880
On April 04 2015 12:01 RowdierBob wrote:
So if the Pels win today v the Kings they're only .5 back from OKC. Here's the run home for both:

Pels, currently 41-34 (counting they beat Kings today)
@Portland
vs GS
@ Mem
vs Phx
@Hou
@ Minny
vs Spurs

A lot will come down to which high seeds rest players in games. I think Mem, Hou and Portland will play them full strength as they're still jockeying for seeds. GS and SA may rest guys. I'll give them four wins for 45-37 finish.

OKC, current 42-34
vs Hou
vs Spurs
vs Kings
@ Indy
vs Portland
@ Minny

Hmmm, a much easier run. I think they win at least 4, possibly 5 which gets them to 46/47 wins.

Can anyone see the Pels making it?



I can see it happening but it is incredibly unlikely.
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