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Liquid`Drone
Norway28911 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6324 Posts
On October 16 2014 01:40 Pandemona wrote: Ooo welcome back RvB, not seen you since your ban  Thanks. Ban ended on the 8th of October and there have only been qualification matches since then which I don't really watch. @Mensol: yeh we're not that bad yet but not too far off :/. | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
On October 16 2014 03:34 JanDe wrote: Albanians provoked this with a pourpose. They knew Serbs will get mad after this irredentistic flag is thrown at stadium. I think they counted on 0:3 win, but UEFA should award us 3 points and win because they rejected to continue match. Reason was stupid - there was nothing to fear since there was 7000 police men after initial clash and there wasn't chance for someone to enter pitch. I was there and I can guarantee if you do not believe me  But I think that major share in this is lying within UEFA/FIFA, if they didn't put Spain and GIbraltar in same group because of territorial dispute (like someone from Gibraltar would cause troubles - I mean no offence, just want to be realistic), why they are putting us with Albania? It's very easy to avoid this crap every time when there is quali for EURO or WC, but someone there seems to need this kind of troubles. No, I believe that there's a >95% chance this game will be a defwin for albania. You are kinda right that it was provoked by albanians, and they even started the fight on the field when some of their players attacked the serbian player who pulled down the flag (from what I've seen on TV). But for the purposes of who will be awarded the win, this isnt so much relevant as the fact that serbian police couldnt keep "fans" from charging on the field and attacking albanian players. Preventing this is the job of the home team (resp. its police/security people), and serbia failed here. As far as I know UEFA, this matters much more to them and will be the decisive factor. Of course, I expect the behavior of some albanian players to be punished with bans. And according to some media reports, the ref abandoned the game long before the albanians made their decision to continue. Other than that, you are surely right that UEFA should have avoided this game in the first place. edit: ok, I can also imagine af defloss for both teams, but I would be highly surprised i serbia get a defwin. | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On October 16 2014 06:26 RvB wrote: Thanks. Ban ended on the 8th of October and there have only been qualification matches since then which I don't really watch. @Mensol: yeh we're not that bad yet but not too far off :/. Ahaha, welcome back :D | ||
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
On October 15 2014 21:58 Ferrose wrote: Let France U21's Layvin Kurzawa serve as a precaution not to celebrate too early... http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/whole-swedish-u21-team-troll-frances-layvin-kurzawa-after-euro-2015-play-off/ lol, deserved, although wonder why kurzawa did that in first place [just a twat?] On October 15 2014 18:07 mdb wrote: Bulgarians dont have anything against Croatians as we dont have common border. We fight just for the sake of it. I think there is some beef between Romania and Hungary but I`m not sure exactly why. afaik it's because a lot of modern Romania used to be part of Hungary and I think lots of gypsies came to Hungary from Romania [gypsies don't exactly have a good rep for being good citizens], both counties have lots of them these days. On October 16 2014 03:34 JanDe wrote: Albanians provoked this with a pourpose. They knew Serbs will get mad after this irredentistic flag is thrown at stadium. I think they counted on 0:3 win, but UEFA should award us 3 points and win because they rejected to continue match. Serbia is too poor and insignificant to get favours even if they deserved them which I don't think they do based on what I've read:- Serb fans displaying political banners [anti Kosovo slogans well before flag incident] Serb fans loudly shouting racist/derogatory chants "Kill, Kill the Siptar [derogatory for Albanians]" throughout game Serb fans throwing missiles at players [before the flag incident and obviously after it too] Well known Serb hooligans running on to pitch and physically assaulting Albanian players Also not so long ago Racist chanting v England U21s Incident v Italy btw I certainly don't think Albania deserve points either lol | ||
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
On October 16 2014 06:58 Greg_J wrote: I think the game should just bee given as a loss to both sides. No one gets any points, no re-match. There should be no reward for that kind of behaviour. i agree (please) | ||
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nitram
Canada5412 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
 https://soundcloud.com/soccerlycom/don-garber-teleconfrence-about-klinsmann | ||
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apelsinsaft
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
Couldnt agree more | ||
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zeo
Serbia6343 Posts
On October 16 2014 07:09 fbs wrote: lol, deserved, although wonder why kurzawa did that in first place [just a twat?] afaik it's because a lot of modern Romania used to be part of Hungary and I think lots of gypsies came to Hungary from Romania [gypsies don't exactly have a good rep for being good citizens], both counties have lots of them these days. Serbia is too poor and insignificant to get favours even if they deserved them which I don't think they do based on what I've read:- Serb fans displaying political banners [anti Kosovo slogans well before flag incident] Serb fans loudly shouting racist/derogatory chants "Kill, Kill the Siptar [derogatory for Albanians]" throughout game Serb fans throwing missiles at players [before the flag incident and obviously after it too] Well known Serb hooligans running on to pitch and physically assaulting Albanian players Also not so long ago Racist chanting v England U21s Incident v Italy btw I certainly don't think Albania deserve points either lol I'm sorry, please provide evidence of 'anti-Kosovo slogans' (whatever the hell that means). Please provide evidence that 'kill the Shiptar' was chanted throughout the game and not just after the flag incident. Yes, things were throw onto the pitch and idiots invaded the pitch after Albanian players attacked the Serbian player taking down the flag and Serbia will be sanctioned for those discretion's. This was some of the best behavior I have seen from our usually shitty crowds at high-risk matches. Racist chanting vs England u21's if you even watched that game you would know that Danny Rose is an arsehole plain and simple. That does not excuse the fans of their behavior because they were too stupid to ignore how big of a douche-bag Rose was. The Italy game was people who are an embarrassment to football being somewhere they should never have been. So please back up your claims made about the conduct of Serbian fans during the game. Who are the people being investigated and charged by UEFA for bringing politics into sports and displaying an illicit banner as well as refusing to play football? And who is the other side being investigated for insufficient organization and crowd disturbances? I'm sure you watched the entire match and can give an objective assessment. edit: Pulling a stunt with the make-believe entity 'Greater Albania' being flown into a football match would have caused chaos in Montenegro, FYRMacedonia or Greece. Plain and simple it has no place in sports. Politics has no place in sports. Greater Albania is a concept which is not supported by any sane Albanian individual or politician. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18762 Posts
On October 16 2014 13:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://soundcloud.com/soccerlycom/don-garber-teleconfrence-about-klinsmann Can't take anything seriously from them Americans regarding football... I mean I still can't believe they criticized Klinsmann for saying the title is impossible -.- | ||
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Crushinator
Netherlands2138 Posts
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zeo
Serbia6343 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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zeo
Serbia6343 Posts
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warding
Portugal2397 Posts
On October 16 2014 03:34 JanDe wrote: But I think that major share in this is lying within UEFA/FIFA, if they didn't put Spain and GIbraltar in same group because of territorial dispute (like someone from Gibraltar would cause troubles - I mean no offence, just want to be realistic), why they are putting us with Albania? It's very easy to avoid this crap every time when there is quali for EURO or WC, but someone there seems to need this kind of troubles. I think UEFA and FIFA should avoid having draws where Portugal is grouped with Spain (they unlawfully occupy a supposedly portuguese town, Olivença), Brazil (Brazil), Netherlands (East Indies), England (they didn't let us have Rhodesia and Zimbabwe in 1890) due to territorial disputes, Germany (mostly Protestant while we're Catholic) due to religious differences as well as Argentina (too much Ronaldo vs Messi tension). We have no problems with Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Faroe Islands, Gibraltar, Andorra, Malta and San Marino. | ||
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Pantagruel
United States1427 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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