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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
July 11 2014 19:03 GMT
#741
On July 12 2014 04:01 Jerubaal wrote:
To be fair, according to several metrics, the T-Wolves were at least the 7th best team in the West last year. They were just abysmal in close games.

yea but that's not a luck issue it rather points to some weakness when shit gets real.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 11 2014 19:04 GMT
#742
which isn't all on Love. That team was playing some terrible players too many minutes.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
July 11 2014 19:07 GMT
#743
well yea love isn't harden bad but you'd still need some interior berlin wall guy or it'll be miami mkii again.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
July 11 2014 19:08 GMT
#744
On July 12 2014 04:03 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 04:01 Jerubaal wrote:
To be fair, according to several metrics, the T-Wolves were at least the 7th best team in the West last year. They were just abysmal in close games.

yea but that's not a luck issue it rather points to some weakness when shit gets real.


Actually, record in close games is a luck issue unless you have a really, really, really long track record of it. All the advanced metrics bear this out. Clutch is pretty much a Skip Bayless thing.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
July 11 2014 19:08 GMT
#745
Larry Coon discussing picks Miami traded to Cleveland to get Lebron:

What picks do the Cavs have left from Miami from the S&T deal for Lebron? How protected are they?
“Miami’s 1st round pick to Cleveland protected for selections 1-10 in 2015 or 1-10 in 2016 or unprotected in 2017 [Cleveland-Miami, 7/9/2010]”

So yeah — not only did they trade Bron to Miami for (among other things) that pick, but now they got Bron back, and Miami still owes them that pick. Plus Miami will be worse now, so that pick will be better.

Read more at http://www.basketballinsiders.com/chat/nba-chat-with-larry-coon-71114/#ZAxlXuQPVwCvcCpE.99
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-11 19:12:48
July 11 2014 19:08 GMT
#746
On July 12 2014 04:07 oneofthem wrote:
well yea love isn't harden bad but you'd still need some interior berlin wall guy or it'll be miami mkii again.

Wiggins? O wai...

I'm interested in seeing what lebron's playstyle will be like on this cleveland team.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-11 19:19:17
July 11 2014 19:13 GMT
#747
On July 12 2014 04:08 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 04:03 oneofthem wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:01 Jerubaal wrote:
To be fair, according to several metrics, the T-Wolves were at least the 7th best team in the West last year. They were just abysmal in close games.

yea but that's not a luck issue it rather points to some weakness when shit gets real.


Actually, record in close games is a luck issue unless you have a really, really, really long track record of it. All the advanced metrics bear this out. Clutch is pretty much a Skip Bayless thing.

well in this case you can augment the stats with some basic eye test. they can't make stops.

the problem with big datasets is that you often obscure the subset of real positives when you are not identifying the subset correctly. you see this with baseball analytics a lot. improved data quality has informed us that some pitchers do control their batted ball profile, but most can't.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 11 2014 19:17 GMT
#748
Houston with Bosh is going to be extremely scary
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 11 2014 19:19 GMT
#749
lin to lakers for cap space, what a weird FA

i figured heat would be done after this season, im glad this happened as i was right and imo the nba is more interesting now
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 11 2014 19:26 GMT
#750
On July 12 2014 04:08 karazax wrote:
Larry Coon discussing picks Miami traded to Cleveland to get Lebron:

What picks do the Cavs have left from Miami from the S&T deal for Lebron? How protected are they?
“Miami’s 1st round pick to Cleveland protected for selections 1-10 in 2015 or 1-10 in 2016 or unprotected in 2017 [Cleveland-Miami, 7/9/2010]”

So yeah — not only did they trade Bron to Miami for (among other things) that pick, but now they got Bron back, and Miami still owes them that pick. Plus Miami will be worse now, so that pick will be better.

Read more at http://www.basketballinsiders.com/chat/nba-chat-with-larry-coon-71114/#ZAxlXuQPVwCvcCpE.99

Miami got 4 finals appearances and 2 championships though so it's definitely worth for them.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
July 11 2014 19:29 GMT
#751
And a lot of sold merchandise.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 11 2014 19:30 GMT
#752
and a solid fan base
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
July 11 2014 19:34 GMT
#753
okay after seeing dion waiters twitter i guess he really is nuts
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 11 2014 19:37 GMT
#754
On July 12 2014 04:30 icystorage wrote:
and a solid fan base


ouch.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
July 11 2014 19:45 GMT
#755
On July 12 2014 04:13 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 04:08 andrewlt wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:03 oneofthem wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:01 Jerubaal wrote:
To be fair, according to several metrics, the T-Wolves were at least the 7th best team in the West last year. They were just abysmal in close games.

yea but that's not a luck issue it rather points to some weakness when shit gets real.


Actually, record in close games is a luck issue unless you have a really, really, really long track record of it. All the advanced metrics bear this out. Clutch is pretty much a Skip Bayless thing.

well in this case you can augment the stats with some basic eye test. they can't make stops.

the problem with big datasets is that you often obscure the subset of real positives when you are not identifying the subset correctly. you see this with baseball analytics a lot. improved data quality has informed us that some pitchers do control their batted ball profile, but most can't.


http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-question-of-kevin-love/

The bigger problem is offense. Love still makes his shots in crunch time. Everybody else regresses pretty badly.

The problem with defense in crunch time is partially scheme related. They gamble too much and end up in foul trouble.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
July 11 2014 19:48 GMT
#756
well that article does say their defense at end of games is also a problem.

The Wolves are a sound defensive team overall, but they’ve been bad on that end in crunch time, and one trend has surfaced across all three seasons: A team that rarely fouls in the first 45 minutes can’t stop fouling at the end of games. Only Denver has allowed more free throws per field goal attempt in the last three minutes of close games this season, per NBA.com, a carryover from the two prior seasons. Overall, the Wolves have allowed 116.1 points per 100 possessions in crunch time, the third-worst mark in the league, and one that would rank miles below the NBA’s leakiest overall defense.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 11 2014 19:56 GMT
#757
GSW management is so fucking dumb
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-11 20:02:09
July 11 2014 19:57 GMT
#758
Irving with Lebron, hmmmm...

edit: Maybe Deng stays in Cleveland?
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
July 11 2014 20:16 GMT
#759
If Lebron going to Miami is The Decision, is going back to Cleveland The Revision?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
July 11 2014 20:16 GMT
#760
don't give them any ideas
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
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