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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 25 2013 21:40 GMT
#1461
I'm fairly certain he's getting the max for two years under the new CBA (i think).
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
November 25 2013 21:43 GMT
#1462
Pau is definitely gone. He might as well start looking at other teams for which city he would like to live in.

Can you picture Kobe hanging on like Stat, because I sure can't. He would never hang on for a whole season as a pie shell of himself.
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-25 21:47:13
November 25 2013 21:46 GMT
#1463
I think this just solidifies in every ones head what they were thinking when Kobe signed his last contract. He really isn't about winning at all, even though his marketing team has a done a good job selling us that image.


Also there isn't one person on the planet that will walk away from 25m, if there was there would be an injury clause in the contract.


On November 26 2013 06:43 seiferoth10 wrote:
Pau is definitely gone. He might as well start looking at other teams for which city he would like to live in.

Can you picture Kobe hanging on like Stat, because I sure can't. He would never hang on for a whole season as a pie shell of himself.



Just like he would do everything in his power to make the lakers win? Come on man, he is selling you an image, stop buying into it.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
November 25 2013 22:04 GMT
#1464
On November 26 2013 06:08 Jibba wrote:
Ahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahhahahahhahahah

Kobe should've been amnestied last year and immediately re-signed for the next two years, with half of the $50 million they're spending this year going into a marketing campaign to hype his return from injury, and the other half being saved so they could get out of luxury tax hell. Instead, they're going to keep climbing that luxury tax ladder for 5 (?) straight years with increasing rates each year, while Kobe "Winning is #1" Bryant drains the team's chances of winning a bit further. Give me a break. Maybe the Lakers and Knicks management can do a 1:1 swap, so we can see who will fuck up each other's franchises more.

Yes, Kobe represents the franchise, but so did Joe Montana and cutting him loose was the correct decision. The Lakers were bidding against themselves on this one. No other team was going to sign Kobe for $15m+ coming off an injury, as his added off-the-court value is mostly only realizable for the Lakers. They had a good bit of leverage and they tossed it away. Height of stupidity. Even if you're adamant Kobe retires as a Laker and you're willing to overpay to do it, they overpaid by $10m/yr on top of the overpay!

You can't just keep pointing to that Time Warner cable contract when the repeat offender tax is ramping up. They either need to get under that threshhold for a season, or they'll have to spend increasingly larger amounts of money to keep up. And if they don't keep up, that cable contract goes to waste anyways because your nationwide base isn't tuning in for a 33 win team.

This is what a team with a good front office looks like. Look at those Duncan and Parker contracts.
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm

what... Spurs and Rockets (the two teams with the most talent imo) are nr 19 and 25 on the list of teams that pay the most to their players. And Knicks is number two. And the rockets can still afford to pay 15 milion $ for Asik.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-25 22:19:51
November 25 2013 22:07 GMT
#1465
Pretty sure most people knew that Ego was #1 in the list of priorities for Kobe. The question is whether money or winning comes next. I don't know what he would do if it was obvious he wasn't best or even second best player on the team.

@Elroi: I'm not sure what exactly you are looking at, but from my research, Spurs have the 8th largest salary this year. Rockets are #18. But you are right that they Spurs have a tremendous amount of talent and the reason for that is that they have homegrown talent on favorable contracts. They only have 5 veterans really.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 25 2013 22:24 GMT
#1466
If the Lakers didn't resign Kobe, what would they spend the cap space on?
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
November 25 2013 22:28 GMT
#1467
On November 26 2013 07:04 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 06:08 Jibba wrote:
Ahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahhahahahhahahah

Kobe should've been amnestied last year and immediately re-signed for the next two years, with half of the $50 million they're spending this year going into a marketing campaign to hype his return from injury, and the other half being saved so they could get out of luxury tax hell. Instead, they're going to keep climbing that luxury tax ladder for 5 (?) straight years with increasing rates each year, while Kobe "Winning is #1" Bryant drains the team's chances of winning a bit further. Give me a break. Maybe the Lakers and Knicks management can do a 1:1 swap, so we can see who will fuck up each other's franchises more.

Yes, Kobe represents the franchise, but so did Joe Montana and cutting him loose was the correct decision. The Lakers were bidding against themselves on this one. No other team was going to sign Kobe for $15m+ coming off an injury, as his added off-the-court value is mostly only realizable for the Lakers. They had a good bit of leverage and they tossed it away. Height of stupidity. Even if you're adamant Kobe retires as a Laker and you're willing to overpay to do it, they overpaid by $10m/yr on top of the overpay!

You can't just keep pointing to that Time Warner cable contract when the repeat offender tax is ramping up. They either need to get under that threshhold for a season, or they'll have to spend increasingly larger amounts of money to keep up. And if they don't keep up, that cable contract goes to waste anyways because your nationwide base isn't tuning in for a 33 win team.

This is what a team with a good front office looks like. Look at those Duncan and Parker contracts.
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm

what... Spurs and Rockets (the two teams with the most talent imo) are nr 19 and 25 on the list of teams that pay the most to their players. And Knicks is number two. And the rockets can still afford to pay 15 milion $ for Asik.

I'm saying the Spurs are excellently managed, and pointing out the discrepency between Parker and Duncan and Kobe's contract.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-25 22:40:48
November 25 2013 22:37 GMT
#1468
yeah i know... I was just so surprised.

On November 26 2013 07:07 Jerubaal wrote:
Pretty sure most people knew that Ego was #1 in the list of priorities for Kobe. The question is whether money or winning comes next. I don't know what he would do if it was obvious he wasn't best or even second best player on the team.

@Elroi: I'm not sure what exactly you are looking at, but from my research, Spurs have the 8th largest salary this year. Rockets are #18. But you are right that they Spurs have a tremendous amount of talent and the reason for that is that they have homegrown talent on favorable contracts. They only have 5 veterans really.

I was looking at this list http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 25 2013 22:44 GMT
#1469
wtf Kobe's extension?
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 25 2013 22:44 GMT
#1470
On November 26 2013 07:04 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 06:08 Jibba wrote:
Ahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahhahahahhahahah

Kobe should've been amnestied last year and immediately re-signed for the next two years, with half of the $50 million they're spending this year going into a marketing campaign to hype his return from injury, and the other half being saved so they could get out of luxury tax hell. Instead, they're going to keep climbing that luxury tax ladder for 5 (?) straight years with increasing rates each year, while Kobe "Winning is #1" Bryant drains the team's chances of winning a bit further. Give me a break. Maybe the Lakers and Knicks management can do a 1:1 swap, so we can see who will fuck up each other's franchises more.

Yes, Kobe represents the franchise, but so did Joe Montana and cutting him loose was the correct decision. The Lakers were bidding against themselves on this one. No other team was going to sign Kobe for $15m+ coming off an injury, as his added off-the-court value is mostly only realizable for the Lakers. They had a good bit of leverage and they tossed it away. Height of stupidity. Even if you're adamant Kobe retires as a Laker and you're willing to overpay to do it, they overpaid by $10m/yr on top of the overpay!

You can't just keep pointing to that Time Warner cable contract when the repeat offender tax is ramping up. They either need to get under that threshhold for a season, or they'll have to spend increasingly larger amounts of money to keep up. And if they don't keep up, that cable contract goes to waste anyways because your nationwide base isn't tuning in for a 33 win team.

This is what a team with a good front office looks like. Look at those Duncan and Parker contracts.
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm

what... Spurs and Rockets (the two teams with the most talent imo) are nr 19 and 25 on the list of teams that pay the most to their players. And Knicks is number two. And the rockets can still afford to pay 15 milion $ for Asik.

...the Heat?
Dogfoodboy16
Profile Joined October 2013
364 Posts
November 25 2013 22:54 GMT
#1471
The new owner of the Sacramento Kings was interviewed by 60 Minutes yesterday. Interesting Watch.



Starts at 2:20
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
November 25 2013 22:59 GMT
#1472
On November 26 2013 07:37 Elroi wrote:
yeah i know... I was just so surprised.

Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 07:07 Jerubaal wrote:
Pretty sure most people knew that Ego was #1 in the list of priorities for Kobe. The question is whether money or winning comes next. I don't know what he would do if it was obvious he wasn't best or even second best player on the team.

@Elroi: I'm not sure what exactly you are looking at, but from my research, Spurs have the 8th largest salary this year. Rockets are #18. But you are right that they Spurs have a tremendous amount of talent and the reason for that is that they have homegrown talent on favorable contracts. They only have 5 veterans really.

I was looking at this list http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm.


I'm sorry, you are right about this year. I was looking at the "cap hit" rankings, which I might argue is more important but also far more situational.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13480 Posts
November 25 2013 23:06 GMT
#1473
Fair price for the NBA's most skilled player.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13480 Posts
November 25 2013 23:11 GMT
#1474
Your LOL for the day: Judy Gay has banned stat sheets from the Raps' locker room. I kid you not.

“We’re not playing for stats,” Gay said.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 25 2013 23:24 GMT
#1475
lol wtf
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 25 2013 23:26 GMT
#1476
1. Raptors leading the Atlantic Division so I guess it's working lol
2. Gay tired of people showing his shot% to him
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 25 2013 23:48 GMT
#1477
Kobe/Nash: $33 million.

Duncan/Parker/Kawhi/Green/Bellinelli: $32 million.
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Dogfoodboy16
Profile Joined October 2013
364 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-26 01:20:33
November 26 2013 01:18 GMT
#1478
Im sure all the people critizing Kobe Bryant for not taking a pay cut would gladly take a pay wage deduction in order to benifit their employeers business. What people dont realise is that Kobe is going to be taxed SIXTY PECENT by the state of California. Kobes only gonna see about 18 out of that 48 million while the government is going to get about 30 million for doing nothing. If anything, Kobe is getting robbed.
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-26 01:29:27
November 26 2013 01:27 GMT
#1479
On November 26 2013 08:48 Doraemon wrote:
Kobe/Nash: $33 million.

Duncan/Parker/Kawhi/Green/Bellinelli: $32 million.

I like how you act like those are the highest paid spurs, and not rookie/league minimums due to situations.


Kobe/Nash: 33 million.
Duncan/Parker/Splitter: 33 million.


If we want to compare boat contracts, why not point out that spurs are paying 15m to Diaw, Gino and Bonner?


On November 26 2013 10:18 Dogfoodboy16 wrote:
Im sure all the people critizing Kobe Bryant for not taking a pay cut would gladly take a pay wage deduction in order to benifit their employeers business. What people dont realise is that Kobe is going to be taxed SIXTY PECENT by the state of California. Kobes only gonna see about 18 out of that 48 million while the government is going to get about 30 million for doing nothing. If anything, Kobe is getting robbed.



Most of us don't care if Kobe wants to get paid, he should, he deserves it. Its him saying "ITS CHAMPIONSHIP OR BUST IN LAL" while at the same time negotiating a contract that won't allow the Lakers to compete.


Its like, one hand he is doing a spin around fade away jumper over 3 defenders while screaming "JORDAN!" and in the other hand he is signing his teams future away.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-26 01:36:00
November 26 2013 01:35 GMT
#1480
On November 26 2013 10:27 Holcan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 08:48 Doraemon wrote:
Kobe/Nash: $33 million.

Duncan/Parker/Kawhi/Green/Bellinelli: $32 million.

I like how you act like those are the highest paid spurs, and not rookie/league minimums due to situations.


i never acted like they're the highest paid spurs. it's merely a post showing how ridiculous it is to pay $33M to 2 players with a combined age of over 70.

also rockets...gave up 13 freaken more FGs in just the first qtr. lol
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
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