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iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
November 26 2013 03:32 GMT
#1501
I put money earlier on the Portland/NYK game with a +7 spread on Portland. Already up 10 in the first quarter. This Knicks season has been too funny, seems like they get worse every game.
usedtocare
Profile Joined August 2013
United States243 Posts
November 26 2013 03:35 GMT
#1502
NY teams want Wiggings period.
Delphiki
Profile Joined October 2012
Philippines1955 Posts
November 26 2013 03:37 GMT
#1503
On November 26 2013 12:35 usedtocare wrote:
NY teams want Wiggings period.

like they still have picks
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 26 2013 03:37 GMT
#1504
On November 26 2013 12:22 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 11:25 Doraemon wrote:
On November 26 2013 11:21 Jerubaal wrote:
I think that, despite what MSNBC would have you believe, this theory that somehow the plutocracy wave their magic wands and avoid paying tens of millions in taxes, especially for a transparent salary like an athlete, is overblown.


transparency doesn't mean anything, it's about redistribution.


Jerubaal is correct. Tax loopholes happen when businesses have revenues in multiple states or countries, have revenues and expenses where the timing can be fudged or have assets they can write up/down.


i don't want to detract too much from NBA and perhaps i shouldn't comment as i'm from australia and not the states, but i'm speaking from personal experience, i am employed by a single employer, my total salary is a single figure, but i easily managed to reduce my effective tax rate from 40+% to 20+% by simple distribution. it's not even magic, it's law.

anyway, how the hell did the rockets win lol
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
November 26 2013 03:42 GMT
#1505
On November 26 2013 12:37 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 12:22 andrewlt wrote:
On November 26 2013 11:25 Doraemon wrote:
On November 26 2013 11:21 Jerubaal wrote:
I think that, despite what MSNBC would have you believe, this theory that somehow the plutocracy wave their magic wands and avoid paying tens of millions in taxes, especially for a transparent salary like an athlete, is overblown.


transparency doesn't mean anything, it's about redistribution.


Jerubaal is correct. Tax loopholes happen when businesses have revenues in multiple states or countries, have revenues and expenses where the timing can be fudged or have assets they can write up/down.


i don't want to detract too much from NBA and perhaps i shouldn't comment as i'm from australia and not the states, but i'm speaking from personal experience, i am employed by a single employer, my total salary is a single figure, but i easily managed to reduce my effective tax rate from 40+% to 20+% by simple distribution. it's not even magic, it's law.

anyway, how the hell did the rockets win lol


In the US you can reduce your effective tax rate by shit like having a mortgage, having kids, etc., but Kobe is way too rich for any of those things to make a significant impact. Though capital gains in the US is only taxed at 15% which is why most rich folk don't pay anything close to the statutory income tax rate, but for someone like Kobe who makes most of his money through salary/income I doubt he'll be able to get his effective rate under 25%.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 26 2013 03:44 GMT
#1506
On November 26 2013 11:48 Jerubaal wrote:
Meanwhile, Houston is losing to Memphis and Chicargo is losing to Utah.

Rose is down time to tank
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
November 26 2013 03:46 GMT
#1507
Time for the offensive powerhouse Carlos Boozer to step up.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-26 03:48:51
November 26 2013 03:47 GMT
#1508
On November 26 2013 12:37 Delphiki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 12:35 usedtocare wrote:
NY teams want Wiggings period.

like they still have picks


NY shouldn't have to pay any taxes because they've "mortgaged" their future.

I am so topical.

Oh look, it's the corpse of Nazr Mohammed.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 26 2013 03:50 GMT
#1509
so the eastern conference only has 2 teams really...going to be fun
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
November 26 2013 03:58 GMT
#1510
Fun week ahead: From Nov 27-Dec 8:

SA plays OKC, Houston, Indiana
OKC plays GSW, Portland, Indiana
GSW play Memphis, Houston
Indiana plays LAC.
Miami plays nobody, per usual.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-26 04:04:34
November 26 2013 04:03 GMT
#1511
On November 26 2013 10:53 Dogfoodboy16 wrote:
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On November 26 2013 10:48 MassHysteria wrote:
I am sure Kobe has good accountants that know how to funnel his money so he doesn't end up paying that much in taxes. That's just an argument against the Lakers when it comes to signing players, but the truth is that there are ways around it. There is more than one reason Kobe spends so much on the homeless in LA and other charities.

And I am a little undecided on this signing still. I mean in a vacuum it isn't bad (when I look at it in a business sense from the Lakers), they show loyalty, etc. And Kobe really is worth that much and more (he also made $3 mil in his first 3 seasons, so for his career he will still make less than deserved). It also solidifies the Lakers brand. By attaching themselves to Kobe's name in emerging Asian/world markets, it is a good move in that sense.

As for Kobe, I never blame a player for signing for the most he can. I would not hold that against him. And Kobe brings in more $$ than Duncan and Parker combined so not a good comparison in the pure $$ sense, but I see your point about the salary cap Doraemon. I commend players when they take less to make a better team, but in a way they have been stuck by "the man" and I never really like it.

I just don't understand how this all fits into the Lakers' salary-cap plans yet. It might very well be they have a viable plan, it just isn't revealed to us yet. We will have to see how this comes about in the next few seasons. This was definitely not all based on basketball reasons of course.


I just dont understand why people are going after Kobe for not taking a pay cut. He did take a paycut. From 31 million this year to 24 million the next 2 years. Its not his fault their is a cap.

The issue with Kobe is just that he's clearly not putting winning first anymore. So he's full of it the next time he uses that bullshit cliche.

The bigger issue is Lakers' management. I just can't comprehend how you cave to that. Does anyone think another team was going to offer him anywhere close to that? Even accounting for the hype and PR that surrounds Kobe, I think they paid waaay above market value.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
November 26 2013 04:19 GMT
#1512
--- Nuked ---
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
November 26 2013 04:34 GMT
#1513
You know it's a slow night when one of the Daily Dime tweets is "Gibson smash!".
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
November 26 2013 04:42 GMT
#1514
Paul George gave us this powerful windmill jam tonight



at that point, George said, yeah we are winning now. sparked a 17-4 run.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
November 26 2013 04:45 GMT
#1515
On November 26 2013 13:19 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 13:03 Jibba wrote:
On November 26 2013 10:53 Dogfoodboy16 wrote:
On November 26 2013 10:48 MassHysteria wrote:
I am sure Kobe has good accountants that know how to funnel his money so he doesn't end up paying that much in taxes. That's just an argument against the Lakers when it comes to signing players, but the truth is that there are ways around it. There is more than one reason Kobe spends so much on the homeless in LA and other charities.

And I am a little undecided on this signing still. I mean in a vacuum it isn't bad (when I look at it in a business sense from the Lakers), they show loyalty, etc. And Kobe really is worth that much and more (he also made $3 mil in his first 3 seasons, so for his career he will still make less than deserved). It also solidifies the Lakers brand. By attaching themselves to Kobe's name in emerging Asian/world markets, it is a good move in that sense.

As for Kobe, I never blame a player for signing for the most he can. I would not hold that against him. And Kobe brings in more $$ than Duncan and Parker combined so not a good comparison in the pure $$ sense, but I see your point about the salary cap Doraemon. I commend players when they take less to make a better team, but in a way they have been stuck by "the man" and I never really like it.

I just don't understand how this all fits into the Lakers' salary-cap plans yet. It might very well be they have a viable plan, it just isn't revealed to us yet. We will have to see how this comes about in the next few seasons. This was definitely not all based on basketball reasons of course.


I just dont understand why people are going after Kobe for not taking a pay cut. He did take a paycut. From 31 million this year to 24 million the next 2 years. Its not his fault their is a cap.

The issue with Kobe is just that he's clearly not putting winning first anymore. So he's full of it the next time he uses that bullshit cliche.

The bigger issue is Lakers' management. I just can't comprehend how you cave to that. Does anyone think another team was going to offer him anywhere close to that? Even accounting for the hype and PR that surrounds Kobe, I think they paid waaay above market value.


I'm pretty sure they paid that not for the success of those 2 years, but past Kobe's retirement. They want to keep the man happy and loyal.
Lakers are gonna suck for the next few years tho.

He'll be happy no matter what - they're gonna give him a statue one day. Kobe said it wasn't even a negotiation, he just took the Lakers' first offer.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
November 26 2013 05:17 GMT
#1516
On November 26 2013 12:50 Doraemon wrote:
so the eastern conference only has 2 teams really...going to be fun


I was thinking it was going to be really strong at the beginning of the year...
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 26 2013 05:19 GMT
#1517
On November 26 2013 14:17 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 12:50 Doraemon wrote:
so the eastern conference only has 2 teams really...going to be fun


I was thinking it was going to be really strong at the beginning of the year...


i wouldn't mind playing bobcats 4 times a year. yes please
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
November 26 2013 05:24 GMT
#1518
Kind of sad that the winner of the east is basically guaranteed home court in the Finals. I guess that's been the story for a while now, though. At least we don't have that horrid format anymore.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
November 26 2013 05:31 GMT
#1519
On November 26 2013 14:19 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 14:17 AxionSteel wrote:
On November 26 2013 12:50 Doraemon wrote:
so the eastern conference only has 2 teams really...going to be fun


I was thinking it was going to be really strong at the beginning of the year...


i wouldn't mind playing bobcats 4 times a year. yes please


That's probably a daunting proposition for a number of Eastern teams right now
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 26 2013 05:38 GMT
#1520
so in portland's 11 game win streak they only played 1 team over 500 hmmm
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
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