On April 20 2014 17:44 AxionSteel wrote:
Hibbert went from a 7'2'' guy who shoots terribly around the basket, to a 7'2'' guy who can't even rebound the ball to a 7'2'' guy who gets rejected twice by Kyle Korver, one of which went flying into the crowd.

Heard or read something from Zach Lowe recently that despite his poor rebounding numbers for a guy his size, his team rebounds much, much better when he's on the floor than when he's not. Eating up bodies is a real thing, though the Korver thing was rather embarrassing.

On April 20 2014 18:19 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I'm just confused that if Hibbert is so bad at getting up, how does he block so many shots?

Did someone say he's bad at getting up? I thought he was regarded as a premier shot alterer (I made that word up) based on his size and jumping ability.

Haiq343

United States2548 Posts

April 20 2014 14:35 GMT

#5003

On April 20 2014 22:18 AgentW wrote:

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Did someone say he's bad at getting up? I thought he was regarded as a premier shot alterer (I made that word up) based on his size and jumping ability.

Hibbert is considered a or the best rim protector in the game. It's hard for everyone to disconnect his abilities there from his real struggles on the offensive end (which have been even more of a challenge lately). In general I don't think Hibbert has a 'quick' jump and that makes him vulnerable on the offensive side.

Indiana is a mess.

icystorage

Jollibee19347 Posts

April 20 2014 14:39 GMT

#5004

one of his strengths regarding shot altering is right. he somehow 'perfected' or mastered contesting shots without fouling

AxionSteel

United States7754 Posts

April 20 2014 15:31 GMT

#5005

On April 20 2014 22:18 AgentW wrote:

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Did someone say he's bad at getting up? I thought he was regarded as a premier shot alterer (I made that word up) based on his size and jumping ability.

Yeh. George, West, Hibbert and Stephenson all average over 6.5 boards so it's not a problem for them just felt like randomly throwing it out there.

He's a good "shot alterer", but it's not because of jumping ability. He has poor athleticism. He's a huge guy with good timing and typically good positioning as well, that's enough to alter shots at his huge size. And yeh he avoids fouling too.

Jerubaal

United States7684 Posts

April 20 2014 19:36 GMT

#5006

The wacky first weekend of the playoffs continue: SA defeats Dallas 90-85 in a bizarrely officiated game where everything seemed to go wrong for SA. Unfortunately, the bad luck all came to bear on Dallas at the end who scored only one meaningless field goal in the final 7:35.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

April 20 2014 19:51 GMT

#5007

Dirk had this miss on a little bunny shot that was eerily similar to one Duncan missed in the Finals last year.

seiferoth10

3362 Posts

April 21 2014 01:18 GMT

#5008

Professor Miller, PhD. educating Augustin in the post.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

April 21 2014 01:27 GMT

#5009

Uhhg, this is the classic Chicago problem. Get better shots, miss them anyways. Force terrible shots, enough still go in.

Cloud9157

United States2968 Posts

April 21 2014 03:15 GMT

#5010

God Bulls offense sucks. Nothing like blowing a 13 point lead and ultimately giving up the lead when they have it for so long in the second half.

drose please come back next year and stay back. Don't leave us with this offense for another year.

Jerubaal

United States7684 Posts

April 21 2014 05:10 GMT

#5011

Pretty awfully officiated game, but I think Portland slightly got the worst of it, so no sympathy for Houston.

DarthPunk

Australia10857 Posts

April 21 2014 08:05 GMT

#5012

Man was it just me or was Houston's ball movement horrible on offense? like it seemed that a ton of their possessions wound up being Harden pick and roll> Harden Isolation > Harden bombs a three.

red_

United States8474 Posts

April 22 2014 02:37 GMT

#5013

That KD 4 point play, oh my lord. Memphis is going to feel sick if they lose this now.

Jerubaal

United States7684 Posts

April 22 2014 02:40 GMT

#5014

I really despise NBA referees sometimes. They seem to call fouls when they think there "should" be a foul rather when there actually is one. The refs basically just told Marc Gasol that he can't go for a deflection/loose ball because there was no foul prior to Durant catching the ball but he's gifted a foul just for the fact of Marc Gasol standing in a position he has a right to be in.

seiferoth10

3362 Posts

April 22 2014 02:42 GMT

#5015

Oh my god, Perkins.

Jerubaal

United States7684 Posts

April 22 2014 02:58 GMT

#5016

I think we've just come to expect shit level officiating in OKC.

Haiq343

United States2548 Posts

April 22 2014 12:10 GMT

#5017

On April 22 2014 11:58 Jerubaal wrote:
I think we've just come to expect shit level officiating in OKC.

It seemed like bad calls went both ways, but there were a lot of them. Equality through mediocrity or something. What was most frustrating about the OKC MEM game was good it could have been, and how much the constant, endless stoppages ruined it. How many timeouts, replay reviews of obvious shit did we have? I would be interested in seeing a real-time vs time-playing (including inbounding/foulshots as game-time) breakdown of the end of that game because it felt absurd.

Jerubaal

United States7684 Posts

April 22 2014 18:08 GMT

#5018

I'm not calling conspiracy (yet), but there are two issues with OKC. One, they have a very loud arena, which is significant if you subscribe to the theory that crowd noise accounts for homecourt advantage. Second, they have several fast, athletic players that force the old, blind officials to make quick calls without good views. And it's not just that they CAN do things, but that the officials expect them to be able to do things. You can convince me that Westbrook didn't foul Tony Allen trying to rip the ball out of his hands, but that call is going against any other team/player that's not the Heat 80% of the time. Likewise, they didn't show too many angles of Sefalosha stripping Conley, but from the one I saw, it didn't look likely to me that Sefalosha touched the ball. The play happens quickly and the refs just assume. I'm a fan of defense and good hands, but I don't think players should be encouraged to paw, grab and swipe at the ball all the time and OKC seems to have carte blanche to do this. The Durant 4 point play was just stupid anyway you look at it. Either there was no foul on the 'entry pass' and Gasol is allowed to stand there or the foul was on the entry pass. The only explanation is that the refs weren't looking at them but as soon as the ball gets to Durant there "must have been a foul". Speaking of weirdly late calls, Tony Allen was jostling with Durant, then takes his hands completely off Durant and then they call a foul. Are the refs just waiting to see how far they go? I don't get why they are so slow.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

April 22 2014 22:49 GMT

#5019

The refs are just bad...

And they get worse the more rules we add.

rebdomine

6040 Posts

April 23 2014 00:55 GMT

#5020

Do you think all the rule changes might be messing with their heads a bit?

They've been used to calling stuff for years and then the rules keep getting changed.