luol deng --> cleveland and andrew bynum --> chicago. guess they didnt think they could resign him.

chicago also gets a protected 1st rounder and 2 2nd round picks.

RowdierBob

Australia13416 Posts

January 07 2014 06:46 GMT

#2864

Looks like the pick is a top 12 protected one the Cavs acquired from Sac.

Cavs really want to make the Playoffs. Reading Deng turned down a 3/30 extension from Bulls also.

DystopiaX

United States16236 Posts

January 07 2014 07:15 GMT

#2865

I feel like Chi made out like bandits
EDIT: Cavs send Blazers 2015 & 2016 2nd rounder, Sacramento 1st rounder, and right to swap 2015 1st rounder but lottery protected.
from reddit so dunno how credible this is.
Sac pick is supposedly hella protected and we may never get it but I'll take Bynum's contract, 2 2nd rounders, a swap, and a first rounder for an expiring Deng.

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

January 07 2014 07:34 GMT

#2866

I wonder if Deng will re-sign with the Cavs.

MassHysteria

United States3678 Posts

January 07 2014 08:06 GMT

#2867

It's not a bad trade for CHI (though, in essence, you are comparing it to what they could have gotten somewhere else) but IMO it's a great trade for CLE. They basically traded nothing. The SAC pick will become a 2nd rounder and the other 2nd round picks they sent belong to POR, who project to have pretty good records. The swap of picks is nothing really as it is top14 protected.

If Cavs resign Deng and make a run at Gasol in the offseason, they could have a team of Varejao, Gasol, Deng, Waiters, and Irving. Not bad in the East. Rumors have it Gasol might want to go MEM with this brother, though this would certainly make things hard.

MassHysteria

United States3678 Posts

January 07 2014 08:09 GMT

#2868

It will be interesting to see if the Bulls are willing to trade their 2nd most coveted asset now, their coach. Maybe they pull a move like the Celts did with Doc.

Doraemon

Australia14949 Posts

January 07 2014 08:23 GMT

#2869

i never even knew coaches are tradeable assets

RowdierBob

Australia13416 Posts

January 07 2014 08:23 GMT

#2870

On January 07 2014 17:06 MassHysteria wrote:
It's not a bad trade for CHI (though, in essence, you are comparing it to what they could have gotten somewhere else) but IMO it's a great trade for CLE. They basically traded nothing. The SAC pick will become a 2nd rounder and the other 2nd round picks they sent belong to POR, who project to have pretty good records. The swap of picks is nothing really as it is top14 protected.

If Cavs resign Deng and make a run at Gasol in the offseason, they could have a team of Varejao, Gasol, Deng, Waiters, and Irving. Not bad in the East. Rumors have it Gasol might want to go MEM with this brother, though this would certainly make things hard.

Yeah I agree. People making out like Cle were robbed but I think it's a good trade for both.

Cavs traded a $6mill expiring contract (that they were going to waive anyway) for Deng (even if it is just rental) and a mid-teens lotto pick (at best for Chi). I don't think Cleveland lost out on too much.

They'll regret it if they overpay Deng though. I wouldn't be giving him any more than what Iggy signed for (4/48).

RowdierBob

Australia13416 Posts

January 07 2014 08:24 GMT

#2871

On January 07 2014 17:23 Doraemon wrote:
i never even knew coaches are tradeable assets

I don't think they are but you can "compensate" a team for facilitating a coaching move.

icystorage

Jollibee19350 Posts

January 07 2014 08:26 GMT

#2872

talking about thibs, which team do you think he is fit for? aside from the bulls

jmbthirteen

United States10734 Posts

January 07 2014 08:29 GMT

#2873

its a good trade for Cleveland as long as the re-sign Deng. If they dont, well then it sucks.

RowdierBob

Australia13416 Posts

January 07 2014 08:29 GMT

#2874

Thibs would fit any team IMO.

So the Bulls' salary is at $60mill now, yeah? Do you amnesty Boozer now also to really get the tank firing?

RowdierBob

Australia13416 Posts

January 07 2014 08:31 GMT

#2875

On January 07 2014 17:29 jmbthirteen wrote:
its a good trade for Cleveland as long as the re-sign Deng. If they dont, well then it sucks.

Giving up the picks for Deng rental would suck but it'd worse to give him a dumb contract.

I'm hoping they canvassed this before making the trade though and have a deal with Deng ready to go. It is Dan Gilbert though...

DystopiaX

United States16236 Posts

January 07 2014 08:39 GMT

#2876

On January 07 2014 17:29 RowdierBob wrote:
Thibs would fit any team IMO.

So the Bulls' salary is at $60mill now, yeah? Do you amnesty Boozer now also to really get the tank firing?

I'd ideally want him on a contender whose biggest problem is defense- I think Clips first, maybe the Warriors.

Agree the trade works for both teams, although tbh I was initially so excited cause i didn't think we'd be able to get anything for him.

Rumor is Deng turned down 3/30 from the Bulls, so we definitely should have traded him. He might be worth it but it's iffy, especially since Rose is out and we don't know how good he'll be and we could have Butler slide to the 3. Dunno if Deng turned it down because he thought he was worth more or he was fed up with the organization though.

The other reason I like it is because we might end up tanking enough for a lottery pick, even if it isn't a high one. We definitely are too good for a full rebuild but I'd rather get a higher pick this year with Rose out than get nothing.

RowdierBob

Australia13416 Posts

January 07 2014 08:42 GMT

#2877

Cavs really should go hard after Asik now.

slyboogie

United States3423 Posts

January 07 2014 08:43 GMT

#2878

Such a low impact trade. Jerry Reinsdorf is such a lame owner. People bitching about "small markets" should just look at this guy and try to grasp the realities of the NBA universe.

DystopiaX

United States16236 Posts

January 07 2014 08:49 GMT

#2879

I don't like reinsdorf but I don't mind this. Why pay the repeater tax for a team that's gonna have no impact anyway? Get anything you can for an expiring, choose now to dodge the tax so when we actually are in a position to contend we can pay the luxury tax without worrying about the repeater. Don't let Deng walk for nothing, and get a better pick in addition. iirc Bynum has a team option as well?

sc4k

United Kingdom5454 Posts

January 07 2014 09:32 GMT

#2880

Are the Cavs trying to attract Bron Bron back or something? Really make a go of it with Irving Deng and Bron?