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zeo
Serbia6342 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28797 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:18 zeo wrote: Man, Italian football during the 90's was the shit. Inter, Lazio, Milan, Juventus, Parma, Fiorentina all having world class players, all fighting for the title, and most of them with shady owners washing money through the clubs. All the rest had insane talent. Brilliant. I guess too much of watching perfect 'look at all this super green grass from Holland' pitches and sensible fans in the EPL and Liga make me nostalgic for the raw athletic track stadiums filled with smoke from smoke bombs, back when everything had a greyish tone. At least you got the working class feel in Italy, even with the all the money. Don't think my post has much to do with your one, but I think the reason people don't like rich people coming into football is the nanny state painfully visible in modern football. edit: though now that I think about it the reason Serie A declined was because of the selfish division of TV rights, something being felt in Spain right now. Haha I think your serbian perspective conflicts with my norwegian perspective :D I like it that stadiums are nice and family friendly - I also like loud supporters but smoke bombs etc doesn't improve anything for me. And norwegian families taking a trip to manchester to watch united play as a christmas present to the 8 year old boy, that's just awesome imo.  Back when I was playing championship manager 92/93 though, italian football was definitely the most exciting for me, but I never actually watched it back then, just knew all the players from CM, and yeah, many teams were great and competitive. | ||
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kyllinghest
Norway1607 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:53 Liquid`Drone wrote: Haha I think your serbian perspective conflicts with my norwegian perspective :D I like it that stadiums are nice and family friendly - I also like loud supporters but smoke bombs etc doesn't improve anything for me. And norwegian families taking a trip to manchester to watch united play as a christmas present to the 8 year old boy, that's just awesome imo. No pyro no party! Personally I like the mentality that you go to games to support your team, but I also agree there should be safe areas for families with kids. edit: on second thought I guess making matches available to kids should be a high priority! | ||
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zeo
Serbia6342 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:53 Liquid`Drone wrote: Haha I think your serbian perspective conflicts with my norwegian perspective :D I like it that stadiums are nice and family friendly - I also like loud supporters but smoke bombs etc doesn't improve anything for me. And norwegian families taking a trip to manchester to watch united play as a christmas present to the 8 year old boy, that's just awesome imo. Back when I was playing championship manager 92/93 though, italian football was definitely the most exciting for me, but I never actually watched it back then, just knew all the players from CM, and yeah, many teams were great and competitive. You say 'perspective', I say 'passion'  | ||
Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
On February 04 2014 02:28 RvB wrote: Why do you dislike Chelsea? Awesome supporters imo. Combination of factors. - Basically all that Drone said about them being the first billionaire run club that gave up its tradition for the money. - Do not like Mourinho. I think he's an abrasive whiny disrespectful cunt. - Before Mourinho they swapped managers like clockwork. There was absolutely no club culture. There was not a recognizable playing style within the team which I like, except for anti-football by Di Matteo for example. - The way they buy up all kinds of youth talent and then let them go to waste because they never get any playing time anyway, because why would you go through the trouble of actually educating talents when you can buy Oscar for 40million? This is generally a criticism on PL clubs in general though. Youth players should stay at their local clubs longer so they get more experience by actually playing in a good competition with lots of resistance. - Negative playstyle basically. I like City a bit more because they play a more attacking style. All of this is pretty subjective of course and just my opinion. I'm not looking to discuss any of these points, but off the top of my head, those are the reasons why I don't like Chelsea. I have no idea about their supporters. The only ones I know post in this topic haha. I like all you lot well enough even though peculiarly I always seem to disagree with Chelsea supporters (and agree with everything Rebs says). | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On February 03 2014 21:12 Pandemona wrote: Man City vs Chelsea On February 04 2014 03:35 city42 wrote: No, I totally agree. My point was that big clubs like Chelsea don't necessarily succeed because they are well-run, but rather because they can throw money at their problems, and obviously Madrid, City, etc. do this as well. If you take a random club in a top division and pump that much money into them, they will probably win trophies. One year of spending took Malaga to the CL! Yeah i just like to make sure everyone is aware. Yes Chelsea went crazy at the start and won trophies because of it, but since about 2008 it has all been business oriented and we have only spent what we can and earnt. But i do understand your point but as you know i like to defend Chelsea as much as possible ;o | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Team News Cech; Ivanovic, Cahill, Terry (c), Azpilicueta; David Luiz, Matic; Ramires, Willian Eto'o Hazard Subs v Man City: Schwarzer, Cole, Mikel, Lampard, Oscar, Salah, Ba Hart, Zabaleta, Kompany (c), Nastasic, Kolarov, Navas, Demichelis, Toure, Silva, Dzeko, Negredo Subs: Pantilimon, Boyata, Clichy, Milner, Rodwell, Lopes, Jovetic Not sure if 4-3-3 or Ramires playing 4-2-3-1 RW. I hope it 4-3-3 ^_^ 5-3-2 for City? idk but if not means one of the CBs is playing DM/CM Oh Pellegrini confirms Demichelis playing CM Mourinho on tonight's "shut up shop" comment; My team selection? It's a team to defend when they have the ball, and to attack when we have the ball. If we don't defend well we have no chance because they are very good offensively. But if we don't score goals, we don't win. I don't think I can be accused of parking the bus. The gameplan is to be strong defensively but to also be a threat. We know our opponents will have a lot of the ball and when they have the ball they're the most dangerous team in the country. But we want to play, to score goals and to try and win. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6274 Posts
On February 04 2014 04:11 Twisted wrote: Combination of factors. - Basically all that Drone said about them being the first billionaire run club that gave up its tradition for the money. - Do not like Mourinho. I think he's an abrasive whiny disrespectful cunt. - Before Mourinho they swapped managers like clockwork. There was absolutely no club culture. There was not a recognizable playing style within the team which I like, except for anti-football by Di Matteo for example. - The way they buy up all kinds of youth talent and then let them go to waste because they never get any playing time anyway, because why would you go through the trouble of actually educating talents when you can buy Oscar for 40million? This is generally a criticism on PL clubs in general though. Youth players should stay at their local clubs longer so they get more experience by actually playing in a good competition with lots of resistance. - Negative playstyle basically. I like City a bit more because they play a more attacking style. All of this is pretty subjective of course and just my opinion. I'm not looking to discuss any of these points, but off the top of my head, those are the reasons why I don't like Chelsea. I have no idea about their supporters. The only ones I know post in this topic haha. I like all you lot well enough even though peculiarly I always seem to disagree with Chelsea supporters (and agree with everything Rebs says).I used to dislike Chelsea or the same reasons you dislike them. It changed when you had the europa league finals in Amsterdam though, I was in the city at that time and they're better supporters than the supporters of any Dutch club. Even Feyenoord doesn't come close. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18636 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On February 04 2014 04:34 sharkie wrote: As a Arsenal supporter I cheer for Chelsea tonight, pande! :D <3 that will be all we need :D | ||
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
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Influ
Germany780 Posts
On February 04 2014 03:45 lord_nibbler wrote: Strange list, really. Schalke and Hamburg are underachieving with the money they got, sure. But it's not like they are totally incompetent. Schalke is always in the running for a CL place and Hamburg never got demoted all these years. Cologne has never been a good team, like ever. Above-average attendance does not automatically make you a good team. Ditto with Hertha. And Bremen does not belong into this list at all. They were brilliant a few years ago and their management is actually one of the distinctly 'long term planers' in the sport. Schalke have made huge financial mistakes because they overrated themselves and now they have a lot of depts. Hamburg is the definition of incompetence and not only since this year. FC Cologne was one of the best german clubs into the 80s and made a joke out of themselves in the last 20 years mainly with their coach firing every other months and buying overrated players on mass. Hertha was a top 5 team for some time and then the club became a circus with stuff like players revolting which they couldn't handle at all. Bremen is maybe a bit exaggerated but I think they made a lot of bad decisions setting up a good team in recent years. Look what team they had 4 years ago and look what they have now.. | ||
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Merfyn
United Kingdom945 Posts
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wingpawn
Poland1342 Posts
Still picking City to win, but the match is unlikely to be that exciting, considering the starting 11s... | ||
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kyllinghest
Norway1607 Posts
On February 04 2014 02:28 RvB wrote: Why do you dislike Chelsea? Awesome supporters imo. Excert from John Terrys autobiography + Show Spoiler + "I have never heard anything like it before and I don't think I ever will again. It is the best atmosphere I've ever played in. "I walked out into that cauldron and heard that singing and saw that passion. The hairs on my arms were standing up. To see a spectacle like that is inspiring to anyone. "I just kept looking around, trying to take it all in. I wasn't daunted by it, but it was amazing. I wish more crowds were like that. "Apart from the volume, it looked spectacular, too. In the seconds before the referee blew his whistle for the start of the match, the whole stadium let out this great long roar as if they were going to power Liverpool to victory."  | ||
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sharkie
Austria18636 Posts
On February 04 2014 04:49 kyllinghest wrote: Excert from John Terrys autobiography + Show Spoiler + "I have never heard anything like it before and I don't think I ever will again. It is the best atmosphere I've ever played in. "I walked out into that cauldron and heard that singing and saw that passion. The hairs on my arms were standing up. To see a spectacle like that is inspiring to anyone. "I just kept looking around, trying to take it all in. I wasn't daunted by it, but it was amazing. I wish more crowds were like that. "Apart from the volume, it looked spectacular, too. In the seconds before the referee blew his whistle for the start of the match, the whole stadium let out this great long roar as if they were going to power Liverpool to victory." yeah and if you would c&p the same exact quotes without the context of Terry or Chelsea to football supporters asking which stadium you'd get 20+ different responses haha | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On February 04 2014 04:44 wingpawn wrote: Both lineups are kind of meh. Sending out Luiz, Matić and Ramires confirms Mou's willingness to camp in his main and hope for the best. And Demichelis in the midfield is a little ridiculous as well, considering that there's Javi Garcia to pick if you want one true defensive anchor in the middle. But why Pellegrini is even adjusting the tactics that works wonderfully to the opponent that should theoretically adjust to him? Still picking City to win, but the match is unlikely to be that exciting, considering the starting 11s... Javi Garcia is also injured. | ||
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kyllinghest
Norway1607 Posts
On February 04 2014 04:51 sharkie wrote: yeah and if you would c&p the same exact quotes without the context of Terry or Chelsea to football supporters asking which stadium you'd get 20+ different responses haha Yeah, but even trough the telly it was obvious that that particular night was something truly special. A bit of topic though, but I couldn´t resist! | ||
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