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Time to move on to the next thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/460943-2014-2015-football-thread
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
January 13 2014 10:47 GMT
#10601
On January 13 2014 19:41 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 11:08 Steveling wrote:
See, even the players themselves know who's the best, I remember a similar quote from sneijder in 2010 award.


no one says messi isnt the best player in the world but he has gotten the award twice undeservedly


Well, it is your opinion. In my opinion the four times he have won it, he deserved and was the best of the world. (Although personally I would have given it to "Xavi" the year that Spain won the World Cup and Barcelona the champions because I think it was the best year I have seen ever in a midfield)
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 11:18:24
January 13 2014 11:17 GMT
#10602
On January 13 2014 19:47 haitike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 19:41 sharkie wrote:
On January 13 2014 11:08 Steveling wrote:
See, even the players themselves know who's the best, I remember a similar quote from sneijder in 2010 award.


no one says messi isnt the best player in the world but he has gotten the award twice undeservedly


Well, it is your opinion. In my opinion the four times he have won it, he deserved and was the best of the world. (Although personally I would have given it to "Xavi" the year that Spain won the World Cup and Barcelona the champions because I think it was the best year I have seen ever in a midfield)


Seems like you haven't seen Zidane in his time then
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 11:17:41
January 13 2014 11:17 GMT
#10603
oops sorry
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 11:18:46
January 13 2014 11:17 GMT
#10604
man sorry for this 3-times-post, i was really confused
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 13 2014 11:21 GMT
#10605
LOL
That German internet huh MapleLeaf xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 11:26:22
January 13 2014 11:25 GMT
#10606
On January 13 2014 20:17 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 19:47 haitike wrote:
On January 13 2014 19:41 sharkie wrote:
On January 13 2014 11:08 Steveling wrote:
See, even the players themselves know who's the best, I remember a similar quote from sneijder in 2010 award.


no one says messi isnt the best player in the world but he has gotten the award twice undeservedly


Well, it is your opinion. In my opinion the four times he have won it, he deserved and was the best of the world. (Although personally I would have given it to "Xavi" the year that Spain won the World Cup and Barcelona the champions because I think it was the best year I have seen ever in a midfield)


Seems like you haven't seen Zidane in his time then


Oh true. I forgot Zidane. Best midfield I have seen, true. Still, Xavi is the best "playmaker" I have seen, and I still think that he deserved an award after the worldcup. But nowadays only scorers get it.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 11:36:10
January 13 2014 11:35 GMT
#10607
Well with the ancient format, the Ballons d'Or should have been like this imo:

2009: Messi
2010: Sneijder/Xavi
2011: Messi
2012: Iniesta
2013: Ribery (I would have put Lahm instead but it seems too unrealistic xD)
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
January 13 2014 11:41 GMT
#10608
Stop peeing on C.Ronaldo's probable parade people.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 13 2014 11:50 GMT
#10609
It's a done thing Ronaldo won xD
It's good he deserves it, by far the best player of 2013, his record this season from August - December alone made him a candidate let alone the other goals he scored prior to that.
About time he won too
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8916 Posts
January 13 2014 12:07 GMT
#10610
On January 13 2014 20:25 haitike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 20:17 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
On January 13 2014 19:47 haitike wrote:
On January 13 2014 19:41 sharkie wrote:
On January 13 2014 11:08 Steveling wrote:
See, even the players themselves know who's the best, I remember a similar quote from sneijder in 2010 award.


no one says messi isnt the best player in the world but he has gotten the award twice undeservedly


Well, it is your opinion. In my opinion the four times he have won it, he deserved and was the best of the world. (Although personally I would have given it to "Xavi" the year that Spain won the World Cup and Barcelona the champions because I think it was the best year I have seen ever in a midfield)


Seems like you haven't seen Zidane in his time then


Oh true. I forgot Zidane. Best midfield I have seen, true. Still, Xavi is the best "playmaker" I have seen, and I still think that he deserved an award after the worldcup. But nowadays only scorers get it.

paul scholes disagrees
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
January 13 2014 12:14 GMT
#10611
He might disagree, won't make it any less true.

Xavi > Scholes imo.
Moderator
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
January 13 2014 12:43 GMT
#10612
Hopefully, finally, Ronaldo will win it. And good for him if he does because it's not his fault he's been up against probably the best player of all time (yet).
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 13 2014 12:46 GMT
#10613
CryingRonaldo already got one golden ball before Messi got his 4, I don't understand all these "finally" comments
Revolutionist fan
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 12:58:23
January 13 2014 12:57 GMT
#10614
On January 13 2014 21:46 Salteador Neo wrote:
CryingRonaldo already got one golden ball before Messi got his 4, I don't understand all these "finally" comments


Cos 4 in a row where you're basically always 2nd or (whichever position he was in 2010...4th?) must absolutely suck!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 13 2014 12:58 GMT
#10615
Yeah to say Ronaldo is the KingKong of Ballon d'or is an understatement. Now as a true MKP/Jaedong Kong he gets his reward
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
January 13 2014 13:07 GMT
#10616
This "World's Top Player" situation reminds me of Korean BW scene right before the SC2 shutdown. We have ridiculously good Cristiano "Jaedong" Ronaldo who has the misfortune of playing in times of even better Lionel "Flash" Messi. The only difference is that Franck "Bisu" Ribery recently wins more titles than those two combined...
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6311 Posts
January 13 2014 13:12 GMT
#10617
Ribery doesn't deserve it to be compared to Bisu man... Ribery aint handsome and he's not as good.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
January 13 2014 13:12 GMT
#10618
On January 13 2014 22:07 wingpawn wrote:
This "World's Top Player" situation reminds me of Korean BW scene right before the SC2 shutdown. We have ridiculously good Cristiano "Jaedong" Ronaldo who has the misfortune of playing in times of even better Lionel "Flash" Messi. The only difference is that Franck "Bisu" Ribery recently wins more titles than those two combined...


Ha
This comparison is surprisingly accurate

Ronaldo definitely deserved it this year. I don't understand why titles should have any influence on this award at all, unless one player basically carried his team to these titles (and that surely wasn't the case with Ribery).
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
January 13 2014 13:17 GMT
#10619
On January 13 2014 17:56 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah im sure there was a buy back deal in the contract. No way would Benfica sell Matic for that kind of money? Portuguese press been throwing around figures of €40million for like months and months lol. For us to get him €25million must mean we had some sort of deal.
Also if that is true, we sold DeBruyne for £17million to pay an extra £3million to get a holding midfielder in what we need. Sounds like a good deal. Shame he was our fucking talent anyway ^_^
Oh well Chelsea shall learn

The good side is that in buying Matic you get a player that is proper Chelsea. The guy loves the club, will never leave us or fuck us over and is one of the greatest players in the world for the position he plays in (a position the club desperately lacks players to fill).

People underestimate how important defensive midfielders are, just look at Makelele. When he left Real they went to shit, and coming to Chelsea he became (imo) the most important player we had during the Mourinho years. Bringing Matic on board should be top top priority.
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 13:29:12
January 13 2014 13:23 GMT
#10620
On January 13 2014 21:14 Twisted wrote:
He might disagree, won't make it any less true.

Xavi > Scholes imo
.


Actually scholes agrees with that assessment rather Xavi disagrees haha, basically they each think the other is better than himself. Anyway to me Xavi = Scholes, no reason to say one is better than the other given everything these guys have achieved and their amazing abilities. Scholes just had the bad luck to have been born an Englishman where for years Beckham's looks were top priority in England

On January 13 2014 22:12 Mandalor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 22:07 wingpawn wrote:
This "World's Top Player" situation reminds me of Korean BW scene right before the SC2 shutdown. We have ridiculously good Cristiano "Jaedong" Ronaldo who has the misfortune of playing in times of even better Lionel "Flash" Messi. The only difference is that Franck "Bisu" Ribery recently wins more titles than those two combined...


Ha
This comparison is surprisingly accurate

Ronaldo definitely deserved it this year. I don't understand why titles should have any influence on this award at all, unless one player basically carried his team to these titles (and that surely wasn't the case with Ribery).


Was looking at the stats and it was funny that Ronaldo scored 3 times as many goals as Ribery and almost as many assists, yet zero prizes. Ronaldo is wasted at Madrid lol. Anyway I was talking about this with a bunch of friends and we all came to the hilarious conclusion that in history there may never have been a clearer second best player xD
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