EPTAlso, how are they gonna deal with their salary cap? Questions from like a year ago don't seem to be answered yet.
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Itsmedudeman
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Also, how are they gonna deal with their salary cap? Questions from like a year ago don't seem to be answered yet. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On July 03 2013 13:52 Itsmedudeman wrote: Also, how are they gonna deal with their salary cap? Questions from like a year ago don't seem to be answered yet. Lakers fans claim the salary cap doesn't affect them, nor does the repeater tax. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On July 03 2013 12:57 RowdierBob wrote: Here's a question for our Clips fans: After getting trounced in 2012 but the Spurs and after getting trounced in 2013 by the Grizz, what argument can you put forward for the team showing any improvement in 2014 (noting the addition of Dudley and Reddick and the loss of Butler, Bledsoe and probably Barnes)? I see no improvement in them. CP3 is a star but he's no where near good enough to progress that roster past the first or second round (as we have seen). Unless Blake takes a big leap forward I don't see where the improvement comes from in that team. Or maybe Vinny really was holding them back these last two years and Doc is the X-factor that puts them over the top. Someone convince me. I'm not a clippers fan, but all I can say is -- Doc Rivers. He might not be a legendary coach or anything, but 50x better than del negro ever was. I think the clips are really weak mentally and break down easily so maybe he can keep them focused. | ||
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Ubiquitousdichotomy
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BTW When did New Orleans become the Pelicans? rofl | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On July 03 2013 12:57 RowdierBob wrote: Here's a question for our Clips fans: After getting trounced in 2012 but the Spurs and after getting trounced in 2013 by the Grizz, what argument can you put forward for the team showing any improvement in 2014 (noting the addition of Dudley and Reddick and the loss of Butler, Bledsoe and probably Barnes)? I see no improvement in them. CP3 is a star but he's no where near good enough to progress that roster past the first or second round (as we have seen). Unless Blake takes a big leap forward I don't see where the improvement comes from in that team. Or maybe Vinny really was holding them back these last two years and Doc is the X-factor that puts them over the top. Someone convince me. That's so simplistic, you could have said the same thing about the Spurs in 2012. They were beaten up by the Griz then the Thunder. How in Peter Holt's Caterpillar Sperm did they then make the finals in 2013?!? You can rationalize it all you want, you can say that the Thunder out-athleted them or that the Grizzlies out-muscled them but that in and of itself doesn't indicate a fatal weakness with the team. Well, they still lost. Womp. You just try to build the best team you can build, coach it and execute the best you can. The Clippers made a good trade, they're better than last season and they take another run at it with a better team and a better coach. | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
On July 03 2013 13:55 Jibba wrote: Lakers fans claim the salary cap doesn't affect them, nor does the repeater tax. ??? edit: From some clues I have gathered, the lakers pitch to Howard is that they only want him to stay if he wants to stay, fully well knowing the pressure that will come with it. That way next year when they get knocked out and pressure mounts, he knows that it is what he wanted. I am starting to think that he might just not have the balls to leave and will probably stay. He probably changes his mind 2 times a day though. The other thing is that looking at all the publicity that Howard has put out, he has set it up so that if the doesn't stay, it can easily be blamed on the lakers management later. He could have easily asked for another coach other than DAntoni if he really wanted to stay but is instead slightly setting it up to be able to use him as a scapegoat in the media. Again, Howard probably doesn't even know what he wants yet at this moment. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
The "we have unlimited money" talk. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
Russell Westbrook Thabo Sefolosha Kevin Durant Serge Ibaka Kendrick Perkins(?)/Nick Collison(?) Their bench is Reggie Jackson, Jeremy Lamb, Hasheem Thabeet, Perry Jones III, Daniel Orton. Oh god, I loved so many of these guys coming into the draft. Remeber Daniel Orton at Kentucky? Lord, that's thin. They need to make the right move with that exception and get a real two guard. | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
Well let's not forget the Lakers were the first ones to see what is going to play out in free agency and salary cap issues this year. That is why they traded two big 7-footers with big contracts for Chris Paul before it got nixed by Stern. With Howard and Paul, they could have competed for a title while not going terribly over the cap and taxes. They have shed a lot of salary since the new CBA to be able to even be in the situation they are in this year though (something people overlook). I do think they won't hesitate to go over the cap big-time if they feel they have a chance to build a superteam for a title run though. That is how much they care about winning, and something not every franchise has with their owner (TWC $$ helps ofc). | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
I can't believe how many Pistons fans are going "Joe better sign Gay, Iggy and Smoove!" Not just one of the three, mind you. All three. They want Gay, Iggy and Smoove to rotate as SF. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13536 Posts
On July 03 2013 13:57 slyboogie wrote: That's so simplistic, you could have said the same thing about the Spurs in 2012. They were beaten up by the Griz then the Thunder. How in Peter Holt's Caterpillar Sperm did they then make the finals in 2013?!? You can rationalize it all you want, you can say that the Thunder out-athleted them or that the Grizzlies out-muscled them but that in and of itself doesn't indicate a fatal weakness with the team. Well, they still lost. Womp. You just try to build the best team you can build, coach it and execute the best you can. The Clippers made a good trade, they're better than last season and they take another run at it with a better team and a better coach. Cross your fingers and hope then? The Spurs have pedigree and the Clippers none--it's not a good comparison. I get the point you're making but all I'm saying is I see no improvement in the Clips that would suggest they can break through the ceiling they've encountered in recent times. | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
On July 03 2013 13:11 Jibba wrote: I kind of hope the Rockets pull off the Howard + Smith deal. what do you think of this howard+iggy talk? | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On July 03 2013 14:21 slyboogie wrote: I was looking over the Thunder's situation, they're over the cap, under the tax, so they have the Mid-Level exception but I believe that's all they have. So here's their starting 5 depending on the coach: Russell Westbrook Thabo Sefolosha Kevin Durant Serge Ibaka Kendrick Perkins(?)/Nick Collison(?) Their bench is Reggie Jackson, Jeremy Lamb, Hasheem Thabeet, Perry Jones III, Daniel Orton. Oh god, I loved so many of these guys coming into the draft. Remeber Daniel Orton at Kentucky? Lord, that's thin. They need to make the right move with that exception and get a real two guard. good lord what happened to their bench? Didn't realize it was that bad now. Thabeet is fine I guess since hes like a 5 minute guy but Lamb and Jones are not quite ready yet. Reggie Jackson is an amazing 6th man though so there's that. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On July 03 2013 14:43 RowdierBob wrote: Cross your fingers and hope then? The Spurs have pedigree and the Clippers none--it's not a good comparison. I get the point you're making but all I'm saying is I see no improvement in the Clips that would suggest they can break through the ceiling they've encountered in recent times. I'm forced to ponder how satisfying an answer like "pedigree" would have been a year ago. You're forced use the mystical qualities that work when they're self-evident. Of course the Spurs have pedigree in 2013! Where was it in 2012? Where was that moxie, man? So yeah, "cross your fingers and hope," I guess. It does cheapen the actual work that has gone and will go into it. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
In Houston? Terrible. Iggy is a SF/SG (he's better at locking down SGs than SFs) that doesn't shoot the 3 well, and Houston already has Harden and Parsons. I can't see any way in hell that happens. | ||
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Ace
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Jibba
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DystopiaX
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I think if I were the Rockets I'd much rather get Smith and Howard though. | ||
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