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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On June 07 2013 11:11 DystopiaX wrote: I was thinking about this earlier today and I think Duncan is possibly the only top 10 player of all time in any sport who is so criminally underrated. Anthony Munoz | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On June 07 2013 11:16 DystopiaX wrote: Not for the first couple. And you can argue it from a public perception/team leadership point but from a basketball standpoint? Shaq no question. ? I'm arguing Kobe was the sidekick here. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On June 07 2013 11:17 Itsmedudeman wrote: ? I'm arguing Kobe was the sidekick here. Yeah I read your sentence wrong, just realized that. My favorite NBA Finals/is forever commercial is the one with Dirk. Best music, hilarious watching everyone do the one leg fader. and that's my point. People will argue that Kobe is better than Timmy, and that's fucking stupid. | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
On June 07 2013 11:19 DystopiaX wrote: Yeah I read your sentence wrong, just realized that. My favorite NBA Finals/is forever commercial is the one with Dirk. Best music, hilarious watching everyone do the one leg fader. and that's my point. People will argue that Kobe is better than Timmy, and that's fucking stupid. How is that stupid?? =P (they are both great, but even if Duncan wins this year I'll still give the edge to Kobe as the greater player of his generation in an argument) | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 07 2013 11:14 On_Slaught wrote: Spurs should feel fine going into half. Down 3 after missing so many shots (40%. Many b/c of good defense but a lot of open shots missed too) and the Heat (esp the role players) are shooting lights out. Yeah but the Heat tend to be a second half team. Also the Heat can get Lebron in the post any time they want. That's not good. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On June 07 2013 11:33 MassHysteria wrote: How is that stupid?? =P (they are both great, but even if Duncan wins this year I'll still give the edge to Kobe as the greater player of his generation in an argument) Kobe had magnitudes more help, was a poor man's Jordan without nearly the same homicidal competitiveness, was a huge prick as a teammate until halfway through his career(and still isn't the best today), and was never the leader of any of his championship teams until the last one. Duncan won all of his championships as the best player and leader of the team, had MUCH MUCH less help (no way Parker/Ginobili stack up to Shaq) has better stats, is vastly better as a leader, is so much better defensively it's a travesty Kobe has more All-NBA defense awards than him, and is better at the intangibles- defensive anchor, passer, etc. The thing that hurts Duncan most is that his game is "boring" - no huge dunks, no signature skyhook, just great fundamentals, as a person he's boring- he'll never have drama like Kobe/Jordan had, isn't interested in pimping shit so doesn't have sneakers or really any endorsements at all, etc., so Duncan is quietly brilliant whereas Jordan/Magic/Bird/Kobe are showy brilliant. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On June 07 2013 11:33 Jibba wrote: Yeah but the Heat tend to be a second half team. Also the Heat can get Lebron in the post any time they want. That's not good. Feel even better now. The Heat Big 3 are all playing out of their minds and it's a 1pt game. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On June 07 2013 11:39 Judicator wrote: But but but, Duncan's never had to play with Smush Parker. A bad team for 1 year, big whoop. Like I said, Timmy won it all with old Robinson and Bad Parker/Ginobili/SJax as his main backup. | ||
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rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
On June 07 2013 11:43 slyboogie wrote: Haslem has found that shot Unsung hero? | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8332 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 07 2013 11:39 Judicator wrote: But but but, Duncan's never had to play with Smush Parker. I do think Kobe's seasons with the crappy Lakers is better than any of Duncan's, but I'd still take Duncan overall. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
Can we call it holcans law? Eventually all conversations on basketball will reach a point where people discuss kobes placement in the top 10 all time. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On June 07 2013 11:47 Jibba wrote: I do think Kobe's seasons with the crappy Lakers is better than any of Duncan's, but I'd still take Duncan overall. I always say that Kobe went Super Saiyan 2 in the 05-07 seasons. Just look at how much weight he put on! He must have gone to 230lbs of pure muscle and he was a wrecking ball. It was a tragically bad team though. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
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