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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18846 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 20:32:50
January 10 2013 20:25 GMT
#101
In case anyone is interested in some exercise science research, AM just put out a nice little article on multiple rep ranges.

Powerlifters, strongmen, and bodybuilders – while they may follow vastly different training systems, the successful among them have one thing in common: they all have above-average levels of muscle mass.

Powerlifters and strongmen are mammoth-like, usually with high levels of muscle mass combined with similar levels of body fat, a result of their overall focus on performance over aesthetics.

Bodybuilders, on the other hand, typically have even greater levels of muscle mass than their strength-focused relatives but lower body fat levels, and a balanced, muscular physique indicative of the aesthetic focus of their training.

Each group has different approaches to decidedly different athletic pursuits, yet similar outcomes in muscle size and strength. Perhaps similarities in their training might provide us with valuable insight into the optimal way to train for mass and strength development.


Source

In case you are wondering, the article does include a fair bit of actual research
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
January 10 2013 23:42 GMT
#102
On January 11 2013 03:13 Necosarius wrote:
Finally a new article on Leangains! I wish Berkhan would write more often :/

Pretty sombre article, and fairly indicative that he will keep up his absentee shenanigans.

Bullshit is rampant, I feel for him.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
January 11 2013 01:14 GMT
#103
If we're on the leangains/if subject, does anyone here train fasted? I don't really wanna buy supplements so the 10g BCAA prior to fast training is a bit of a problem for me. Instead I found this: http://healthcorrelator.blogspot.com/2011/12/protein-powders-before-fasted-weight.html basically it says that you can exchange the BCAA's with 2 hard boiled egg whites around an hour before the training. What do you guys think?
oh, hai
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
January 11 2013 01:56 GMT
#104
Ok to those of you who take Vit D, how many µg per day?


For quite a while I have been taking a multivitamin with 5µg in it, and a cod liver/vitA/vitD tablet which has another 5µg in it. 5µg is supposed to be the RDA, but I'm not sure what to aim for.

The second tablet is running out though so I bought some tablets with just vit D in, and they're 25µg per tablet, which in comparison strikes me as a lot.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
January 11 2013 02:24 GMT
#105
I take 6k IU but I just googled how to convert that and I'm now confused.
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GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
January 11 2013 02:32 GMT
#106
On January 11 2013 10:14 HornyHerring wrote:
If we're on the leangains/if subject, does anyone here train fasted? I don't really wanna buy supplements so the 10g BCAA prior to fast training is a bit of a problem for me. Instead I found this: http://healthcorrelator.blogspot.com/2011/12/protein-powders-before-fasted-weight.html basically it says that you can exchange the BCAA's with 2 hard boiled egg whites around an hour before the training. What do you guys think?



I just train fasted and have some coffee during the morning before I work out. If my workout is in the mid afternoon I have a small snack, I just ordered some BCAAs though so when I get them I'll see how/if they change how my fasted workouts feel
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
January 11 2013 02:34 GMT
#107
If I remember correctly Eshlow suggests 10 000 IU/day if you don't spend much time outside in the sun. 10 000 IU would be 250 µg (link).

Here is an article he wrote on Vit D: link

I just skimmed through it and I think it said 10k IU/day for 4-8 weeks and then go down to 5k IU.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
January 11 2013 03:41 GMT
#108
Ok brilliant, thanks for the link, and to eshlow for writing the article!

That seems like a shit load of vit D, I'll give it a go.
Kolya504
Profile Joined April 2011
25 Posts
January 11 2013 04:27 GMT
#109
Me: 23, male, 5'11 172 lbs. I'd like to increase my bench/squat/deadlift, lose 10 lbs of fat, and get into decent cardiovascular health (I am not currently) during the course of this year. I have a gym / pool membership.

Any general thoughts? Also, what do you all think of workout programs like Insanity or P90x? I haven't done either but thought about trying one. I work full time and sometimes its hard to motivate myself to exercise after work if its not on the calendar.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18846 Posts
January 11 2013 04:39 GMT
#110
On January 11 2013 13:27 Kolya504 wrote:
Me: 23, male, 5'11 172 lbs. I'd like to increase my bench/squat/deadlift, lose 10 lbs of fat, and get into decent cardiovascular health (I am not currently) during the course of this year. I have a gym / pool membership.

Any general thoughts? Also, what do you all think of workout programs like Insanity or P90x? I haven't done either but thought about trying one. I work full time and sometimes its hard to motivate myself to exercise after work if its not on the calendar.

What is your fitness history? Have you played any sports, and are you new to the gym?
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GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
January 11 2013 04:58 GMT
#111
On January 11 2013 13:27 Kolya504 wrote:
Me: 23, male, 5'11 172 lbs. I'd like to increase my bench/squat/deadlift, lose 10 lbs of fat, and get into decent cardiovascular health (I am not currently) during the course of this year. I have a gym / pool membership.

Any general thoughts? Also, what do you all think of workout programs like Insanity or P90x? I haven't done either but thought about trying one. I work full time and sometimes its hard to motivate myself to exercise after work if its not on the calendar.



IMO if you just do Starting Strength you'll see good gains across the board. Lifting of course is directly related to your bench/squat/DL goals, lifting will put muscle on you as fat comes off, and it has a pretty remarkable effect on cardiovascular health in the untrained person.

As far as P90X/Insanity, I've done some P90X with a friend, it's pretty fun, but mostly muscular endurance, I don't think it would help towards your goals so much (would help with the cardio I guess, could do it on non lifting days, depends on how much time you have). If you want a structured program, Starting Strength is good, and get into the habit of always going to the gym on gym days even if you have a shitty workout, make it part of your normal routine so that it will feel weird if you skip a session and eventually you'll be doing good workouts (nearly) every day that you're in the gym

Best of luck, hope that helped!
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 09:46:29
January 11 2013 08:34 GMT
#112
w00t!

First post in the health and fitness initiative!

Current weight: 185. Height: 5'10"

Max Bench: 235 (set tonight!)
Max Squat: Not sure, finished last week at 5x235
Max Deadlift: Not sure, finished last week at 5x240

Goals:
Long term: Look like this guy - http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdeac5DAWm1r43hpwo1_500.jpg
Short term: 250 bench, Squat 325, Deadlift 350

I'm not really sure where I should be in terms of maxes on squats and deads. This week I'll be setting maxes on both.

Anyone remember that website TL peeps used to be so amped about where you enter your progress and level up and stuff? Definitely wanting to sign up there.

<3 TL Fitness Initiative!

edited cuz I was totally wrong about my Squat and Deads.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15361 Posts
January 11 2013 08:45 GMT
#113
Welcome fitocracy.com gogo and add the TLHF people there
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4733 Posts
January 11 2013 08:54 GMT
#114
Holy cow, you certainly don't look like 185lb on stream, I always viewed you as some tiny skinny guy. Never figured you were into strength training, but coherent with our elitist attitude in here: You squat and deadlift, so now I respect you a little more.
Good luck with your goals and welcome.
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MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
January 11 2013 09:45 GMT
#115
On January 11 2013 17:45 zatic wrote:
Welcome fitocracy.com gogo and add the TLHF people there


Is there an easy way to find the TLHF peeps?
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4733 Posts
January 11 2013 10:05 GMT
#116
The group is called teamliquid.net, you should find it with a normal search. You don't need an invite I don't think, not exactly sure how this works.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
January 11 2013 10:22 GMT
#117
On January 11 2013 19:05 Malinor wrote:
The group is called teamliquid.net, you should find it with a normal search. You don't need an invite I don't think, not exactly sure how this works.


Got it! Thanks. Just joined the group, and even added a pic of me in my undies. Enjoy, ladies. ('cuz they're rampant on TL, right? Right?)
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
January 11 2013 11:38 GMT
#118
On January 11 2013 13:27 Kolya504 wrote:
Me: 23, male, 5'11 172 lbs. I'd like to increase my bench/squat/deadlift, lose 10 lbs of fat, and get into decent cardiovascular health (I am not currently) during the course of this year. I have a gym / pool membership.

Any general thoughts? Also, what do you all think of workout programs like Insanity or P90x? I haven't done either but thought about trying one. I work full time and sometimes its hard to motivate myself to exercise after work if its not on the calendar.

don't set arbitrary weight goals.

You also need to have priorities in training. Find out what you truly want and then do some research and build a program around it. If you want bigger lifts then get into weight training, if you want better cardio pick up running or HIIT or something.

glyo
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
January 11 2013 17:31 GMT
#119
On January 11 2013 12:41 Deadeight wrote:
Ok brilliant, thanks for the link, and to eshlow for writing the article!

That seems like a shit load of vit D, I'll give it a go.


10k for a couple weeks to normalize.

Then 5k after that to maintain.

If not out in the sun a lot.
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
January 11 2013 19:12 GMT
#120
So arms are healed, chest is fine, now it's time for my new injury: knees. Sons of bitches have started to hurt while sitting down. No problem when walking around or doing squats, but when I sit down and relax my leg both knees start to hurt (mostly right though).

Well I get pissed goddamniiiit!

On a positive note, strength is coming back. Squatted 80kg 4x5 and it felt like babby weight, gonna start going up again. You know, unless my knees explode.

Deadlifted 100kg and it felt light. That was nice, considering 115kg used to be my old PR. Pretty good OP as well.

A resolutionist was in the squat rack today. He was doing what can only be described as the worm (the dance move), up on a medicine ball which was up on a bench. In the squat rack.

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