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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20060 Posts
January 14 2013 18:21 GMT
#181
Getting sick. Don't have time for this shit. I feel fine just scratchy throat and congestion so far. Going to keep up the cals / tons of sleep / vitamins / vit d / lots of fluids / flucanase(this shit owns congestion) Anything else I should do? Got a meet on Sunday
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18834 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 18:35:43
January 14 2013 18:34 GMT
#182
On January 14 2013 20:42 MrBitter wrote:
Deadlifted 310 today! It was soo fucking heavy. Form was awful, but I got through it. Really could use some coaching on my dead lifts I think.

I don't understand it, but I'm gaining weight. Up to 187, a solid 10 lbs heavier than I was a month ago. I'm being so careful about what I eat and how much. Starting to think it's just supplements packing on more muscle.

Oh well. Very proud to hit 310. Makes that goal of 350 seem not so far off.

Hitting shoulders hard tomorrow, then legs on Tuesday. Pretty eager to see where my squat max is.

Feeling so strong!

Next time you do DL's try and get a side profile video of your form if you want any e-coaching, they are my favorite exercise and one of my specialties in personal training.


In fact, I'll be deadlifting later on today

Edit: decafchicken, have you ever tried airborne? Although it is homeopathic, which more or less means bullshit, I've found that it paradoxically helps me feel a lot less sick when I've come down with an upper respiratory disease.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20060 Posts
January 14 2013 19:36 GMT
#183
Yeah it's bullshit. Just some vitamins(already taking multivit)
marketing. Only thing useful in it is zinc which it had hardly any
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
January 14 2013 19:39 GMT
#184
It is tasty, I'll give it that.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18834 Posts
January 14 2013 19:42 GMT
#185
Back in high school, I used to do a lot of singing and public speaking, and Airborne really seemed to help, though not as much as gargling lemon salt water. I haven't been sick in over two years, so I guess my advice in this area is rather outdated lol
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Nazarene
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Denmark996 Posts
January 14 2013 19:54 GMT
#186
Back squat 3x100, 3x120, 3x130, 3x140 (rep PR), 3x130, 3x120, 10x110 kg

30 muscle ups for time: 2:29 (PR)

As many rounds as possible in 10 min of:
15 situps
12 chest to bar pullups
9 box jumps
7 rounds and 11 chest to bar pullups
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 20:25:42
January 14 2013 20:18 GMT
#187
On January 14 2013 17:32 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:42 sc4k wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:02 KwarK wrote:
According to fitday I have calorie requirements of 3.5k daily due to cycling to and from work and mainly working on my feet doing intermittent physical activity. This seems insanely high to me, I do a bit of snacking from time to time but I don't believe I possibly could have been consuming that many calories daily in a long time. There was a while six months ago where I subsisted on vast amounts of take away pizza and obviously Christmas just happened but I think on the average day at the moment I'm on around 1200 in meals and maybe another 800 in snacks, although on some days that's a zero. Maybe due to poor tracking of my weight I'm doing shit right at the moment but then lost all my gains over Christmas but it just doesn't seem to add up.


Are you looking to lose weight or maintain? 3.5k seems very high unless when you cycle you sprint like a motherfucker for 10 minutes. Have you tried a food diary? I did one on excel for a while and realised that actually my average daily eating involves a lot more calories than I would normally have anticipated. It's a pain but it does get the job done. Hitting a ratio of like 35:35:30 in terms of protein:carbs:fat distribution.

If your goal is weight loss 2.7k cals + cycling every day and going to the gym like 2-3 times a week would probably hit the spot. Also the type of food you consume has effects on your system that do go beyond the calories. Eshlow puts loads of work into nutrition information to explain it. I find bread is the biggest perpetrator. Diet coke as well, it affects your insulin levels negatively.

Lose although through eating rather than exercise. For me managing my weight is a quality of life thing and I absolutely despise the gym so going to the gym to lose weight would be utterly pointless and unsustainable because I'll stop going asaply. On 5 or so days a week I'll cycle for 20 minutes into work and be on my feet for maybe 5 hours (of a 9 hour shift) at work including 1-2 hours of lifting and moving shit before cycling home for another 20 minutes. I put that into multiple calorie consumption things and they all concluded 3.5k or more.


The other guys have said that 3.5k is alright but it seems too much in my book. I hear you on the not wanting to exercise go to the gym (sorry read that wrong), my brother is exactly the same. All I can say is that from my personal experience I put on body fat eating around 3.5k cals a day even with regularly gym exercise. Whatever you do make sure it's clean food and try for a food diary for at least 4 weeks. If you avoid high amounts of carbohydrates (sugars) it might end up quite hard to eat 3.5k calories. If you can get out on your days off for a 30 minute run maybe with some pushups and some jumps integrated I'd really recommend that.

On January 14 2013 22:03 zatic wrote:
OK so unfortunately the third doctor could only confirm: Lateral meniscus tear, advised to not put any stress on my knee for another 2 to 3 months TT.


This is awful news . God damn zatic, shitty luck. Especially if you were going to get your boxing going somewhere, I fucking love boxing! Really want to get back into it myself but haven't got the cash for classes. Man I hope your rehabbing goes smoothly. I was stopped from doing mma for a year just when I was going to be entering into amateur tournies because of a tear in an intercostal rib muscle.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
January 14 2013 20:24 GMT
#188
On January 15 2013 04:42 farvacola wrote:
Back in high school, I used to do a lot of singing and public speaking, and Airborne really seemed to help, though not as much as gargling lemon salt water. I haven't been sick in over two years, so I guess my advice in this area is rather outdated lol



In studies, people who have been allergic to dogs, had dermatitis, flu, etc, have all been cured by placebo.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18834 Posts
January 14 2013 20:27 GMT
#189
On January 15 2013 05:24 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 04:42 farvacola wrote:
Back in high school, I used to do a lot of singing and public speaking, and Airborne really seemed to help, though not as much as gargling lemon salt water. I haven't been sick in over two years, so I guess my advice in this area is rather outdated lol



In studies, people who have been allergic to dogs, had dermatitis, flu, etc, have all been cured by placebo.

And? That's the whole point of homeopathic remedies in the first place, as long as one isn't some anti-establishment nutjob.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
January 14 2013 20:52 GMT
#190
Alright so 2 weeks into keto and here's the verdict: fuck keto, I'm going back to leangains. I'm not even talking about weight loss potential or ease of application or anything, I just cant eat salads, bacon and eggs for five days in a row. It's not conducive to longterm success.

And the point of homeopathy is just to make money off a bullshit product, it doesn't fill some kind of placebo need in the market.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
January 14 2013 20:55 GMT
#191
On January 15 2013 05:27 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 05:24 Deadeight wrote:
On January 15 2013 04:42 farvacola wrote:
Back in high school, I used to do a lot of singing and public speaking, and Airborne really seemed to help, though not as much as gargling lemon salt water. I haven't been sick in over two years, so I guess my advice in this area is rather outdated lol



In studies, people who have been allergic to dogs, had dermatitis, flu, etc, have all been cured by placebo.

And? That's the whole point of homeopathic remedies in the first place, as long as one isn't some anti-establishment nutjob.


Oh I assumed you didn't know. Normally it doesn't work if you know it's a placebo...
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18834 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 21:15:10
January 14 2013 21:10 GMT
#192
On January 15 2013 05:52 Osmoses wrote:
Alright so 2 weeks into keto and here's the verdict: fuck keto, I'm going back to leangains. I'm not even talking about weight loss potential or ease of application or anything, I just cant eat salads, bacon and eggs for five days in a row. It's not conducive to longterm success.

And the point of homeopathy is just to make money off a bullshit product, it doesn't fill some kind of placebo need in the market.

I ran a keto diet for 2 months and those were 2 of the least enjoyable months of my life; keto makes your sweat smell weird, energy feels totally different, and the lack of satiety from the absence of carbs really starts to mess with your head after a while. Some folks can do it without issue, and I am definitely not one of them.

And yeah, homeopathic remedies are sold to make money off of misconception, that doesn't mean that misconceptions can't be useful. Learning to work with your own placebo effect can be a worthwhile undertaking, but it requires some rather strange thinking so I can understand why many would think this unusual. I knew Airborne was and is bullshit insofar as it's ingredients are concerned, but when I took it, I felt slightly better. The same holds true for a multivitamin. Many multi's are provably useless in a direct sense, with many of the standard pills passing through digestion in whole form and very little of the vitamins being utilized. However, I take mine religiously, and I haven't been sick or really felt that bad physically for a long while. Is it the multi? Probably not. But, if I can afford it and my health continues positively, why not?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
January 14 2013 21:31 GMT
#193
On January 15 2013 06:10 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 05:52 Osmoses wrote:
Alright so 2 weeks into keto and here's the verdict: fuck keto, I'm going back to leangains. I'm not even talking about weight loss potential or ease of application or anything, I just cant eat salads, bacon and eggs for five days in a row. It's not conducive to longterm success.

And the point of homeopathy is just to make money off a bullshit product, it doesn't fill some kind of placebo need in the market.

I ran a keto diet for 2 months and those were 2 of the least enjoyable months of my life; keto makes your sweat smell weird, energy feels totally different, and the lack of satiety from the absence of carbs really starts to mess with your head after a while. Some folks can do it without issue, and I am definitely not one of them.

And yeah, homeopathic remedies are sold to make money off of misconception, that doesn't mean that misconceptions can't be useful. Learning to work with your own placebo effect can be a worthwhile undertaking, but it requires some rather strange thinking so I can understand why many would think this unusual. I knew Airborne was and is bullshit insofar as it's ingredients are concerned, but when I took it, I felt slightly better. The same holds true for a multivitamin. Many multi's are provably useless in a direct sense, with many of the standard pills passing through digestion in whole form and very little of the vitamins being utilized. However, I take mine religiously, and I haven't been sick or really felt that bad physically for a long while. Is it the multi? Probably not. But, if I can afford it and my health continues positively, why not?


I think I've done keto a couple times, completely by accident - last spring for example I was eating pretty much exclusively eggs and bacon, ribs, chicken, ground beef, seafood, cheese, nuts and green veggies drinking only whole milk and water. I was doing roughly the same thing when i first switched to paleo. I did get the complete absence of any hunger (and also any fullness) as well as the bad breath and the (acetone or ammonia? I forget) sweat. Didn't notice much change in energy, but then I'm sleep deprived most of the time anyway. I naturally sleep on a ~26 hour cycle, so it's impossible for me to line up when I feel like I should be going to bed with when I actually should be going to bed.
SteelCutOatz
Profile Joined January 2013
1 Post
January 14 2013 22:26 GMT
#194
I have been a lurker here for a while and have decided to post.

Age: 18 will be 19 soon || Height: 5' 7" || Weight: 155 lbs
Starting Date: 01/14/13 || Goal Date: end of year

Weight goals -- 155--->165 without gaining too much fat
Training goals -- My main goal is to focus more on olympic weightlifting now
- Squat 315---->400 (High Bar)
- Deadlift 385---->450(Probably not going to be deadlifting as much any more due to the focus on o-lifting)
- Bench 250---->250 Just trying to maintain bench because I am not going to be doing it often.
- Snatch 120---->185
- Clean and Jerk 155---->225

Nutrition goals -- Eat less junk food
Sleep goals -- Stick to a consistent sleep schedule
Misc goals --
-Work on my ankle and hip flexibility
-Study harder
-Get a job
-Find a coach for the o-lifts
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
January 15 2013 00:44 GMT
#195
I've been doing cyclical keto and works ok for me for losing weight. Basically you do 2-3 day keto runs, then u have a post workout pizza/ice cream and then keep going for 2-3 days, repeat. Pure keto sucks though.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15353 Posts
January 15 2013 09:03 GMT
#196
On January 15 2013 05:18 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 22:03 zatic wrote:
OK so unfortunately the third doctor could only confirm: Lateral meniscus tear, advised to not put any stress on my knee for another 2 to 3 months TT.


This is awful news . God damn zatic, shitty luck. Especially if you were going to get your boxing going somewhere, I fucking love boxing! Really want to get back into it myself but haven't got the cash for classes. Man I hope your rehabbing goes smoothly. I was stopped from doing mma for a year just when I was going to be entering into amateur tournies because of a tear in an intercostal rib muscle.

I love (kick)boxing as well. Probably the most fun regular sport I ever did. However I stopped again last year anyway because it's really not much fun at all if I can't practice at least 2 times a week. Also the boxing club membership was too expensive for the little time I had for it due to traveling.

Nah the worst part about the injury is that I am skiing addict. I basically survive all year just so I can finally go skiing in the winter, and now it's January and I am looking at a 3 month injury. Fucking depressing. Already canceled two more planned skiing trips TT. I have spent thousands this season already in equipment and canceled trips, all for nothing
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43136 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 12:31:52
January 15 2013 12:29 GMT
#197
Currently on a low carb diet. I previously subsisted on pasta with meat, veg, sauce etc in fairly vast portions. In the last week I've basically just cut the pasta out. As of yesterday I also stopped carrying my wallet so I couldn't buy snacks and I regretted it really badly. I made sure I had a bottle of squash in my bag so I could drink whenever I got really peckish but I got really irritable and pissed at the world by the end of the day so maybe there was some blood sugar thing going on. Equally, yesterday was pretty shit so maybe that was it. I bought some bananas today to take to work as a snack over the next few days but I need to wait for them to get ripe first.

Daily intake from my meals at the moment is roughly
1338 cal
120.6 protein
93.5 carb
of which 30.2 sugar
51.6 fat
of which 18 saturated
11.3 fibre
1.95 sodium

which is what I ate yesterday

Today I went shopping and picked up a bag of sweets (1200 calories in the bag apparently) while there which I'll try and spread over the next few days. Think that might be my leak. Leaving my wallet behind again today though so even if I eat 600 cals of sweets today I'm still under 2k.
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
January 15 2013 12:58 GMT
#198
I found one of the biggest pros of leangains was that despite the low calorie intake I rarely felt hungry. Rather, I felt like I had to eat "too much"
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
January 15 2013 13:22 GMT
#199
On January 15 2013 21:29 KwarK wrote:
Currently on a low carb diet. I previously subsisted on pasta with meat, veg, sauce etc in fairly vast portions. In the last week I've basically just cut the pasta out. As of yesterday I also stopped carrying my wallet so I couldn't buy snacks and I regretted it really badly. I made sure I had a bottle of squash in my bag so I could drink whenever I got really peckish but I got really irritable and pissed at the world by the end of the day so maybe there was some blood sugar thing going on. Equally, yesterday was pretty shit so maybe that was it. I bought some bananas today to take to work as a snack over the next few days but I need to wait for them to get ripe first.

Daily intake from my meals at the moment is roughly
1338 cal
120.6 protein
93.5 carb
of which 30.2 sugar
51.6 fat
of which 18 saturated
11.3 fibre
1.95 sodium

which is what I ate yesterday

Today I went shopping and picked up a bag of sweets (1200 calories in the bag apparently) while there which I'll try and spread over the next few days. Think that might be my leak. Leaving my wallet behind again today though so even if I eat 600 cals of sweets today I'm still under 2k.

1338 kcal a day? Unless you're sitting on your ass whole day long that's really low.
oh, hai
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15353 Posts
January 15 2013 13:24 GMT
#200
On January 15 2013 22:22 HornyHerring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 21:29 KwarK wrote:
Currently on a low carb diet. I previously subsisted on pasta with meat, veg, sauce etc in fairly vast portions. In the last week I've basically just cut the pasta out. As of yesterday I also stopped carrying my wallet so I couldn't buy snacks and I regretted it really badly. I made sure I had a bottle of squash in my bag so I could drink whenever I got really peckish but I got really irritable and pissed at the world by the end of the day so maybe there was some blood sugar thing going on. Equally, yesterday was pretty shit so maybe that was it. I bought some bananas today to take to work as a snack over the next few days but I need to wait for them to get ripe first.

Daily intake from my meals at the moment is roughly
1338 cal
120.6 protein
93.5 carb
of which 30.2 sugar
51.6 fat
of which 18 saturated
11.3 fibre
1.95 sodium

which is what I ate yesterday

Today I went shopping and picked up a bag of sweets (1200 calories in the bag apparently) while there which I'll try and spread over the next few days. Think that might be my leak. Leaving my wallet behind again today though so even if I eat 600 cals of sweets today I'm still under 2k.

1338 kcal a day? Unless you're sitting on your ass whole day long that's really low.

Others would say it's one calorie too much.
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