EPTClubs have almost no ways to keep a player if the player wants to go.
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sharkie
Austria18707 Posts
Clubs have almost no ways to keep a player if the player wants to go. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On August 31 2012 02:59 sharkie wrote: Yeah players have too much power in these regards. Clubs have almost no ways to keep a player if the player wants to go. Do you want lots and lots of unhappy players, lured into unfair contracts at a young age? Nah, the players should always have the upper hand. I don't see a problem with the transfer, Martinez wanted to move on to a bigger club and Bilbao got 40 million €. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18707 Posts
On August 31 2012 03:11 Maenander wrote: Do you want lots and lots of unhappy players, lured into unfair contracts at a young age? Nah, the players should always have the upper hand. I don't see a problem with the transfer, Martinez wanted to move on to a bigger club and Bilbao got 40 million €. I want players to honour their contracts THEY SIGNED THEMSELVES. Is that too much to ask for? | ||
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NuclearJudas
6546 Posts
On August 31 2012 01:59 Mavkar wrote: I'd like to write a short summary about every Bundesliga weekend in here if anyone is interested in it. But probably after I finished my thesis so maybe in a month from now. Only if there is interest of course. Go for it, man. I'd read it. | ||
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Retric
Germany284 Posts
On August 31 2012 02:58 clusen wrote: I don't like the transfer. It's not because of the player, I have only seen a few games and am not able to judge him. I think Bayern knows better than I do. It's not because of the price, everyone knows that he is not worth as much as Bayern paid under normal circumstances, but Bayern has more than enough cash for such a transfer, so I don't mind them spending it. The thing that bugs me is there was no way Bilbao could have prevented the transfer, as far as I understood they were forced to include a buy-out clause in the contract Martinez signed not too long ago. If they don't want to sell him they should have the right to do so and that has to be respected in my opinion. The Bayern executives are talking so much about strengthening clubs rights(Rummenigge is the president of the ECA afterall :p), it's just silly that they are the ones brute-forcing such a transfer, especially considering that they already denied a player that wanted to go to another club a transfer(Ribery, even tho he is happy with the way it turned out in the end). Additionally Sammer, Rummenigge and Heynckes made themselves look like idiots with the way they were behaving in the press during the whole story. It's Bilbao's own fault if they agreed to the 40 million clause. If someone pays 40 million it is only the player's decision if he wants to leave or not. thats how it is. If Bilbao wanted to to keep the player indefinitely they should have given him 10 year contract without a buy-out clause. thats how it is. Bilbao weakened themselves by agreeing to a buy- out clause. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On August 31 2012 03:43 Retric wrote: It's Bilbao's own fault if they agreed to the 40 million clause. If someone pays 40 million it is only the player's decision if he wants to leave or not. thats how it is. If Bilbao wanted to to keep the player indefinitely they should have given him 10 year contract without a buy-out clause. thats how it is. Bilbao weakened themselves by agreeing to a buy- out clause. No player/agent in their right mind would sign a contract of that kind of length without a buy out clause these days. Either he was going out of the door free of charge or they would get 40 million for him. Bilbao could not prevent him from leaving in any possible way if someone was willing enough to pay the clause. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On August 31 2012 01:59 Mavkar wrote: I'd like to write a short summary about every Bundesliga weekend in here if anyone is interested in it. But probably after I finished my thesis so maybe in a month from now. Only if there is interest of course. I'd happily put it in the OP if you want  | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On August 31 2012 03:28 sharkie wrote: I want players to honour their contracts THEY SIGNED THEMSELVES. Is that too much to ask for? They do honour their contracts. Fact is however that free agency after your final year means if a club wants to keep you, then the leverage is with you to negotiate an extension. Additionally if there is a buyout clause then they are usually unalterable. I dont see the problem. It was much worse before when clubs had the power, granted its not perfect now but its much better. Any issues such as inflated transfer tags arent down to player power as much as clubs being willing to splash the cash. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On August 31 2012 03:28 sharkie wrote: I want players to honour their contracts THEY SIGNED THEMSELVES. Is that too much to ask for? Martinez did honour his contract. | ||
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greggy
United Kingdom1483 Posts
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On August 31 2012 04:12 Pandemona wrote: I'd happily put it in the OP if you want rofl, hope he does well there and bags the winner against Pool, although there is probably something in the deal where he can't play against them . . . | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On August 31 2012 05:21 greggy wrote: carroll is such a west ham player, really. he is literally the embodiment of what west ham and sam allardyce stand for. Definitely, it should have been a good fit with Liverpool with players like Downing and Johnson but Downing was retarded and the team just wasn't able to give him the supply + he was shit most of the season, probably partly due to buckling under the pressure and attention that the 35 million tag garnered him, at a young age. In West Ham he will have much less pressure, and will have a team that can definitely give him supply. | ||
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MetalMarine
United States1559 Posts
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
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DaMuffinman
Germany1705 Posts
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
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mememolly
4765 Posts
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tekos44
France280 Posts
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Latty
Germany567 Posts
Martinez to Bayern is kind of sad. bayern has so much talented players already that its pretty sure some of them wont even play this season... could give one of them to frankfurt  | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
More good news for Chelsea fans as Roman Abramovich has won his Court Case. (was being sued for half his money, 3billion) | ||
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