I can't wait! We get to destroy Spurs in the third week! I know the Premier League has an obsession with playing on Boxing Day, but it's a Thursday this year. So the teams play Thursday, then again on Saturday. Why...
March is going to be ridiculous though. Stoke away, Swansea, Spurs away, Chelsea away, then end things by hosting Manchester City. Plus FA Cup and Champions League games...
Because most children and people are "off work" they did it way back when, because it got people into grounds. Christmas period of going to like 3/4 games in two weeks is just how it has always been and in business terms its easy money.
Plus im pretty sure early as in the 80s it was even more conjested fixture wise
English football seems to be just as much of a mess as American football. The NFL here charges WAY too much on ticket prices/jerseys/food/etc. simply because they can, and they milk their players with very little regard for health and/or safety. The Premier League strikes me as doing the exact same thing.
On June 19 2013 18:30 Tazza wrote: I know i've been posting here a lot since like yesterday, but just one more thing. I think because of the recent results, korea's reputation as a footballing nation has seriously gone down, but I just want to show that with the right coach, our team can be very good because Korea hasn't been this talented since 2002 even without park ji sung. I really want to show a lineup that korea can use to show this talent, and well because i don't know where else to post this on the internet
Park Chu Young
Son Heung Min - Kim Bo Kyung - Lee Chung Yong
Ki Sung Yong - Koo Ja Cheol
Yun Seok Young - Hong Jeong Ho - Kim Young Kwon - Kim Chang Soo
Jung Sung Ryong
I guess only a few fans might know half of these players, but since most of them play in europe, i hope some of you will know. Just in case anyone is interested, i'll explain the players.
Park Chu Young - Korea's best and really Asia's best striker until recently(if there are some better asian strikers, i'd actually be very curious). Very bad form recently with arsenal and celta vigo, but still better than any other option out there.
Son Heung Min - Recently transferred to Leverkusen. 13 goals last season in bundesliga and only 21. (and i don't really consider him a striker which is why Park Chu Young is ahead of him).
Kim Bo Kyung - Was on Cardiff's championship league winning side and will play in premier league. Only played home games because he had been playing literally for 2 straight years without a break but still had a good season according to Cardiff fans.
Lee Chung Yong - Stuck at bolton for right now but should be in the premier league because of his talent. Just check a youtube video of him, he has very quick feet and nice trickery. Also, two goals in last world cup.
Ki Sung Yong - Deep-lying playmaker who enjoyed a good season with Swansea in the premier league.
Koo Ja Cheol - Now plays attacking midfielder, but played a deeper role in the k-league and I think he would do well there again. Played great for augsburg for the past two seasons.
Defense - You guys probably don't know these players, but Yun Seok Young is at qpr right now. Hong Jeong Ho would have been the #1 CB had it not been for injuries the past year. Kim Young Kwon was the player that made the mistake yesterday, but ironically his manager Lippi, said that he doesn't make mistakes and would definitely take him to Italy when he goes back to serie a. Kim Chang Soo was another solid player til injury and showed his ability the last two games.
Goalkeeper - Was a serious liability in the 2010 world cup, but has developed well. Not great reflexes and doesn't make super saves but does the normal stuff well.
On the bench we'd also have players like Ji Dong-Won(augsburg), Kim Shin Wook(1.96m tall guy), and squad players i know hardly any of you know lol.
With this squad I really think Korea would win against any side except for the best and still, I think we could challenge them. I'd even be confident of beating our rivals, japan.
The reason is that Japan has amazing world class attacking midfielders, but they really don't have any defensive ones. Hasebe is really an attacking mid playing defensive mid. And Endo is simply too old. I might actually try Honda in defensive mid because of his physicality and move Kagawa to #10 but w/e.
I hope our new manager picks a lineup similar to this, because our past lineups have been awful with the majority of players being has-beens and k-league veterans.
I know I'm one of the few Korean national team fans here, but idk, I just really felt like posting this in case anyone is interested and to show some korean players. If anyone has any other questions, feel free to ask
EDIT: idk why the post isn't showing spaces, but this is a 4-2-3-1 formation!
Hasebe bosses midfields, he has saved our asses so many times. Endo is old yeah but still his passes and crosses are deadly. I see no problem with our midfield. Of course they have problems vs European defensive midfield players, but I bet anything that Korea would have them too
What we suck at is having no real striker and very dangerous wing backs.
Also if you really think you could beat us then you arent looking at it objectively.
Objectively, we very well could beat you. We beat you 2-0 in the olympics and although you guys missed honda and kagawa namely, we also missed son heung min and lee chung yong. You could point to that 3-0 senior game you won like 2-3 years ago, but we were managed by an awful manager then who had public falling outs with some key players.
Also, you can't simply say hasebe "bosses" midfields as an argument. He is really an attacking mid, which he has played for much of his career, and is now a make-shift DM. playing AM to DM is really hard and completely different from players changing off in the attacking three like honda and kagawa do. As for endo, from what i've seen, has lost that power and pace. I'm saying japan really lacks steel in the midfield, even if they might have very nice passing ability. Korea on the other hand, have Ki, Koo, and possibly Han Kook Young. Ki has gotten a lot tougher physically from playing in Scotland, Koo presses well is deceptively strong. Han, although he can't pass, breaks up play very well.
The main difference between the two teams right now is the managers. Korea has had very imcopetent ones since the 2010 world cup, while japan has been led well by zaccheroni. But don't think that japan is somehow off the charts better than korea right now
Where did you get that information from? Hasebe has always had his main position as defensive mid. He is just capable of playing in other positions too... The abilities you post about your defensive mid sound more like they are going to foul a lot, I fail to see how this can be more impressive than Japan's passing in any way.
I love how you keep blaming the manager for anything.
On June 19 2013 18:30 Tazza wrote: I know i've been posting here a lot since like yesterday, but just one more thing. I think because of the recent results, korea's reputation as a footballing nation has seriously gone down, but I just want to show that with the right coach, our team can be very good because Korea hasn't been this talented since 2002 even without park ji sung. I really want to show a lineup that korea can use to show this talent, and well because i don't know where else to post this on the internet
Park Chu Young
Son Heung Min - Kim Bo Kyung - Lee Chung Yong
Ki Sung Yong - Koo Ja Cheol
Yun Seok Young - Hong Jeong Ho - Kim Young Kwon - Kim Chang Soo
Jung Sung Ryong
I guess only a few fans might know half of these players, but since most of them play in europe, i hope some of you will know. Just in case anyone is interested, i'll explain the players.
Park Chu Young - Korea's best and really Asia's best striker until recently(if there are some better asian strikers, i'd actually be very curious). Very bad form recently with arsenal and celta vigo, but still better than any other option out there.
Son Heung Min - Recently transferred to Leverkusen. 13 goals last season in bundesliga and only 21. (and i don't really consider him a striker which is why Park Chu Young is ahead of him).
Kim Bo Kyung - Was on Cardiff's championship league winning side and will play in premier league. Only played home games because he had been playing literally for 2 straight years without a break but still had a good season according to Cardiff fans.
Lee Chung Yong - Stuck at bolton for right now but should be in the premier league because of his talent. Just check a youtube video of him, he has very quick feet and nice trickery. Also, two goals in last world cup.
Ki Sung Yong - Deep-lying playmaker who enjoyed a good season with Swansea in the premier league.
Koo Ja Cheol - Now plays attacking midfielder, but played a deeper role in the k-league and I think he would do well there again. Played great for augsburg for the past two seasons.
Defense - You guys probably don't know these players, but Yun Seok Young is at qpr right now. Hong Jeong Ho would have been the #1 CB had it not been for injuries the past year. Kim Young Kwon was the player that made the mistake yesterday, but ironically his manager Lippi, said that he doesn't make mistakes and would definitely take him to Italy when he goes back to serie a. Kim Chang Soo was another solid player til injury and showed his ability the last two games.
Goalkeeper - Was a serious liability in the 2010 world cup, but has developed well. Not great reflexes and doesn't make super saves but does the normal stuff well.
On the bench we'd also have players like Ji Dong-Won(augsburg), Kim Shin Wook(1.96m tall guy), and squad players i know hardly any of you know lol.
With this squad I really think Korea would win against any side except for the best and still, I think we could challenge them. I'd even be confident of beating our rivals, japan.
The reason is that Japan has amazing world class attacking midfielders, but they really don't have any defensive ones. Hasebe is really an attacking mid playing defensive mid. And Endo is simply too old. I might actually try Honda in defensive mid because of his physicality and move Kagawa to #10 but w/e.
I hope our new manager picks a lineup similar to this, because our past lineups have been awful with the majority of players being has-beens and k-league veterans.
I know I'm one of the few Korean national team fans here, but idk, I just really felt like posting this in case anyone is interested and to show some korean players. If anyone has any other questions, feel free to ask
EDIT: idk why the post isn't showing spaces, but this is a 4-2-3-1 formation!
Hasebe bosses midfields, he has saved our asses so many times. Endo is old yeah but still his passes and crosses are deadly. I see no problem with our midfield. Of course they have problems vs European defensive midfield players, but I bet anything that Korea would have them too
What we suck at is having no real striker and very dangerous wing backs.
Also if you really think you could beat us then you arent looking at it objectively.
Objectively, we very well could beat you. We beat you 2-0 in the olympics and although you guys missed honda and kagawa namely, we also missed son heung min and lee chung yong. You could point to that 3-0 senior game you won like 2-3 years ago, but we were managed by an awful manager then who had public falling outs with some key players.
Also, you can't simply say hasebe "bosses" midfields as an argument. He is really an attacking mid, which he has played for much of his career, and is now a make-shift DM. playing AM to DM is really hard and completely different from players changing off in the attacking three like honda and kagawa do. As for endo, from what i've seen, has lost that power and pace. I'm saying japan really lacks steel in the midfield, even if they might have very nice passing ability. Korea on the other hand, have Ki, Koo, and possibly Han Kook Young. Ki has gotten a lot tougher physically from playing in Scotland, Koo presses well is deceptively strong. Han, although he can't pass, breaks up play very well.
The main difference between the two teams right now is the managers. Korea has had very imcopetent ones since the 2010 world cup, while japan has been led well by zaccheroni. But don't think that japan is somehow off the charts better than korea right now
Where did you get that information from? Hasebe has always had his main position as defensive mid. He is just capable of playing in other positions too... The abilities you post about your defensive mid sound more like they are going to foul a lot, I fail to see how this can be more impressive than Japan's passing in any way.
I love how you keep blaming the manager for anything.
I get most of my info from bigsoccer Japan. I suggest u take a look. Those people know football and have followed Japanese football for a very long time. Never said Korea has better passing, u guys are the masters of short passing. I just said u lack the steel.
Well when a manager takes ur nation to bronze in the Olympics and then another one somehow barely qualifies for the World Cup, yeah I do blame the manager
On June 20 2013 15:19 Kleinmuuhg wrote: Pandemona why isn"t there a single goalkeeper in your poll? Why is everyone always focussed on the offensivve stars, seems like a rookie mistake tbh.
uhh ok.. what goal keeper this year merrited a spot on those polls ?
Also Court is a goal keeper, but really hes only there because the team that owns him is the club the poll makers supports..
Dono why RVP isnt there though.. unfair to skip the best striker on the island.
On June 20 2013 15:19 Kleinmuuhg wrote: Pandemona why isn"t there a single goalkeeper in your poll? Why is everyone always focussed on the offensivve stars, seems like a rookie mistake tbh.
uhh ok.. what goal keeper this year merrited a spot on those polls ?
Too many goals against him in the Bundesliga but for his CL-performance Weidenfeller would have deserved three nominations.
On June 20 2013 15:19 Kleinmuuhg wrote: Pandemona why isn"t there a single goalkeeper in your poll? Why is everyone always focussed on the offensivve stars, seems like a rookie mistake tbh.
uhh ok.. what goal keeper this year merrited a spot on those polls ?
Too many goals against him in the Bundesliga but for his CL-performance Weidenfeller would have deserved three nominations.
Yeah he did get let down a fair bit. I really like him, bit of a bonehead though, granted I havent seen too much.
On June 20 2013 15:19 Kleinmuuhg wrote: Pandemona why isn"t there a single goalkeeper in your poll? Why is everyone always focussed on the offensivve stars, seems like a rookie mistake tbh.
uhh ok.. what goal keeper this year merrited a spot on those polls ?
Also Court is a goal keeper, but really hes only there because the team that owns him is the club the poll makers supports..
Dono why RVP isnt there though.. unfair to skip the best striker on the island.
Hey BM ;_; rofl He is in there purely because he is now Belgium's No1 Keeper and 2 he single handedly won Atletico Madrid the Copa Del Rey
On June 20 2013 15:19 Kleinmuuhg wrote: Pandemona why isn"t there a single goalkeeper in your poll? Why is everyone always focussed on the offensivve stars, seems like a rookie mistake tbh.
Courtios is in there for Young Player. I don't know a keeper that has been exceptional this season other than him maybe.
Well it is a tough choice. Both players went missing for a large portion of the season; Rvp in terms of performances and Suarez in terms of suspensions. In the end tho I would probably have picked Schweinsteiger or Lahm in their place
Adler has played a fantastic season, but because he's Not on a Top Team of course he doesn't get recognition. weidenfeller is the Single reason Dortmund got to the cl Finale Diego lopez is a brilliant goallie but ofc because moruinho got him nobody cares. Dante / David luiz / hummels / lahm / sergio ramoz played fantastic seasons, etc. Etc.
A best player 2012/13 list without a bayern player seems kinda odd. Lahm should be a strong contender for best player this season, i cant think of a single game he had a bad performance. 'Problem' is every single player from bayern performed incredible this season so nobody really sticks out and messi will most likely get the award again - not that he doesnt deserves it..
On June 20 2013 19:13 graan wrote: A best player 2012/13 list without a bayern player seems kinda odd. Lahm should be a strong contender for best player this season, i cant think of a single game he had a bad performance. 'Problem' is every single player from bayern performed incredible this season so nobody really sticks out and messi will most likely get the award again - not that he doesnt deserves it..
Pretty much summed it up in your post. Spain when they rape teams, there isn't "oh this guy won it on his own, he deserves credit" they all play well at the same level, thus you can't pin point anyone. Same with Bayern, there is no one that stands out to me and says yeah that guy was the best, he is awesome. They are all 8/10s every game, reason they wtf powned europe etcetc.
Thats why there isn't any in the poll, because if you put one in you have to put the other 10 in.
On June 20 2013 19:27 MapleLeafSirup wrote: Is this an official poll? Either way this poll almost ignores the champions league season completely lol
Lewandowski - Ronaldo - Messi - Ibrahimovic Think they played the champions league no? Ronaldo was top scorer in champs league with 12 Lewandowski second with 10
EPT
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