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gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
April 23 2013 13:29 GMT
#7201
On April 23 2013 21:57 Pandemona wrote:
WTF
Muller is 23? Are you kidding me? xD
I was just about to say (before researching his age) that i thought Muller might get the shove being as he has been at Bayern forever (it feels) and imo i would rather try to keep Robben as much as possible.

But fuck me, at 23 Muller is a fkn amazing player!! He must of been about 19/20 when he broke into that Bayern side then? Jeez, and he has done it consistently for German national team for what seems like FOREVER aswell. Wow, so much more impressed with Muller after seeing he is 23...lol

I wouldn't mine seeing Robben back at Chelsea, but then again we have an abundance of talent in the forward/wide area so i guess won't be good buy for us. Wonder if Man Utd might want him to replace Nani/Young as they both had shocking seasons.
Gomez might end up being speculation of alot of English clubs though as he would be pretty much suited to our league as it is very similar to the Bundesliga in terms of physicality and pace. Might go to Spain though.

Bayern's Lineup is quite young. I think Robben (he is 29 iirc and he is vulnerable for injuries) and Gomez(if Pep doesnt need a pure striker he is simply not needed anymore) may look for new teams.
I am very curious which players gonna leave Bayern after Pep starts his thing.
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eaT_Mi_Lquid
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany509 Posts
April 23 2013 13:59 GMT
#7202
On April 23 2013 21:57 Pandemona wrote:
WTF
Muller is 23? Are you kidding me? xD
I was just about to say (before researching his age) that i thought Muller might get the shove being as he has been at Bayern forever (it feels) and imo i would rather try to keep Robben as much as possible.

But fuck me, at 23 Muller is a fkn amazing player!! He must of been about 19/20 when he broke into that Bayern side then? Jeez, and he has done it consistently for German national team for what seems like FOREVER aswell. Wow, so much more impressed with Muller after seeing he is 23...lol

I wouldn't mine seeing Robben back at Chelsea, but then again we have an abundance of talent in the forward/wide area so i guess won't be good buy for us. Wonder if Man Utd might want him to replace Nani/Young as they both had shocking seasons.
Gomez might end up being speculation of alot of English clubs though as he would be pretty much suited to our league as it is very similar to the Bundesliga in terms of physicality and pace. Might go to Spain though.


LOL xD

Now I understand the hate from all who say Müller is overrated xD hahahaha ... That guy looks like 28 already but still is so young and so good !!

Just for your information:

In his breakthru year, he was 19, played as a starter under van Gaal, and reached the CL final. Right after that season, in the summer of 2010 he was awarded the Best Young Player of the WC, and got the Award for most Goals and assist ! ... he was sorely missed in the semi-final vs Spain ...

And that was all in his breakthru year ... xD

Funny fact too: in a friendly match right before the WC 2010, Maradonna mistook him for a Ball-Boy and got angry why this dude was sitting next to him ... HAHAHAHA ... Müller was so fresh then ... nobody outside of germany knew him ^^



My favorite player btw ...

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 14:08:56
April 23 2013 14:03 GMT
#7203
Haha yeah pretty much, he looks like 28 and therefore has been around for age. Man all that i world cup 2010, haha. I remember every bit of that XD
I should of remembered he got given the young player award!
Oh well. Going become a proper legend for Bayern if he keeps the level he is up and consistent through the next what 8 years of top level football (makes him 31?)

On April 23 2013 22:20 Savage88 wrote:
Now lets see what we get as replacement. Isco seems like a suitable replacement. I just hope its not DeBryne - he couldn't even dominate in Bremen - he is nowhere near ready to play for a topteam.


Dortmund won't get Isco no way, sorry xD
Isco is going to one of the top top clubs that can give him stupid wages imo. Guy is a sensational talent for his age. Real might even snap him up imo when they have a new coach.

DeBruyne is very young though so he can always get better, yes he has not set the Bundesliga on fire with Bremen, but he can defo still improve.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
eaT_Mi_Lquid
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany509 Posts
April 23 2013 14:05 GMT
#7204
LOL looking again at it, Maradonna, refused to have the press conference with Müller, because it was not his standard to sit next to a "ball boy" ... xD ....

What an idiot, Karma has struck when Müller scored the 1:0 vs Argentina in that WC xD
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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
April 23 2013 14:11 GMT
#7205
Muller is the opposite to Arshavin, who looks and plays like a 19 year old.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 14:17:14
April 23 2013 14:13 GMT
#7206
On April 23 2013 17:48 Pandemona wrote:
Sky Sports just confirmed it's a done deal.



Bayern Munich agree £32m(€37m) deal to sign Mario Goetze from Borussia Dortmund

Borussia Dortmund have confirmed that Germany midfielder Mario Goetze will join Bundersliga rivals Bayern Munich in a £32m(€37m) deal.

More to come!


Source



Lol oh dear, Guillem Balague adding fuel to the fire (Spanish Reporter, follows Pep extensively those who don't know) by saying Lewandowski has already signed for another club....Also Bayern Munchen ^_^


Show nested quote +
Guillem Balague ‏@GuillemBalague

and Lewandowski seems to be going the same direction. English clubs have been told not to bother with him as he has agreed with another club


Goetze is apparently a money-grubbing bastard that can go to hell. Such a classless little prick. Even if Lewandowski is leaving for the enemy, at least he announced well ahead of time that he won't re-sign and that he is going to leave announcements on any decisions until after the campaign.

And Bayern. Well, there's a reason we all think that club is a fucking shameless piece of trash. Pathetic fuckers need to just throw their money around every time a club threatens them with some actual competition. Fucking sickening. Bayern fans should be ashamed of themselves.

This shit makes me hate this sport sometimes. Such an embarrassing day for football.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 23 2013 14:13 GMT
#7207
Bahahaha, excellent point Sc4k xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 17:48:59
April 23 2013 14:16 GMT
#7208
On April 23 2013 19:35 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 19:30 Ysellian wrote:
Bayern are just buying out the competition.


Yeah it happens when only one team in the league hold all the $$s
Reason Premiership is so competitive is because now you have Man Utd - Man City - Chelsea - Arsenal and maybe Liverpool/Spurs who are financially capable to all compete for top players around the world.


Bundesliga is more competitive than the Premier League. More variety in champions over pretty much any point in time.

But yes, this is a problem with every European football league.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18765 Posts
April 23 2013 14:24 GMT
#7209
If Pep sells any of Kroos, Mueller or Mandzukic then he is no good manager imo.
I can understand wanting to sell Gomez (who didnt even fit in heynkes system, he never will in Pep's) or Robben (too egoistic play for a good team)
But Lewandowski and Mandzukic both proved how tall strikers are still needed in football. (I consider both of them stronger in CL than Fabregas)
Savage88
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany132 Posts
April 23 2013 14:30 GMT
#7210
This shorty spaniard is only coach. Sammer does all the transfers!
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 14:35:00
April 23 2013 14:30 GMT
#7211
playing in football manager right now and arsenal bought fellaini almost immediately and he has been a stalwart for them for 5 seasons. IRL if I were Wenger I would attempt to sign Fellaini at all costs. He is exactly what Arsenal need.

On April 23 2013 23:16 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Bundesliga is more competitive than the Premier League. More variety in champions over pretty man any point in time..


No way. Obviously Bundesliga is not more competitive. Although there are a lot of good teams at the top of the Bundesliga, the talent doesn't continue all the way down like it does in the prem.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 23 2013 14:35 GMT
#7212
On April 23 2013 23:30 sc4k wrote:
playing in football manager right now and arsenal bought fellaini almost immediately and he has been a stalwart for them for 5 seasons. IRL if I were Wenger I would attempt to sign Fellaini at all costs. He is exactly what Arsenal need.


Can see him joining Chelsea Sc4k. I mean imagine him instead of slow paced Mikel? Awesome! The only issue he has is his discipline record!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
April 23 2013 14:48 GMT
#7213
On April 23 2013 23:35 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 23:30 sc4k wrote:
playing in football manager right now and arsenal bought fellaini almost immediately and he has been a stalwart for them for 5 seasons. IRL if I were Wenger I would attempt to sign Fellaini at all costs. He is exactly what Arsenal need.


Can see him joining Chelsea Sc4k. I mean imagine him instead of slow paced Mikel? Awesome! The only issue he has is his discipline record!


Interesting. I would prefer a more makelele-style defensive minded player, but Fellaini is a big time player and might be good for us. He does have the sort of presence and confidence that we actually lack in some ways. Most important for us right now is a striker, I would love Falcao but even someone like Wilfried Bony would do the trick, to play tandem with Ba. I still don't get quite why Luiz hasn't been moved to CDM yet!

nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
April 23 2013 14:52 GMT
#7214
fellaini is really bad. he's not worth your troubles guys. you're better off looking at other players.

:<
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MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
April 23 2013 14:53 GMT
#7215
On April 23 2013 23:13 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 17:48 Pandemona wrote:
Sky Sports just confirmed it's a done deal.



Bayern Munich agree £32m(€37m) deal to sign Mario Goetze from Borussia Dortmund

Borussia Dortmund have confirmed that Germany midfielder Mario Goetze will join Bundersliga rivals Bayern Munich in a £32m(€37m) deal.

More to come!


Source



Lol oh dear, Guillem Balague adding fuel to the fire (Spanish Reporter, follows Pep extensively those who don't know) by saying Lewandowski has already signed for another club....Also Bayern Munchen ^_^


Guillem Balague ‏@GuillemBalague

and Lewandowski seems to be going the same direction. English clubs have been told not to bother with him as he has agreed with another club


Goetze is apparently a money-grubbing bastard that can go to hell. Such a classless little prick. Even if Lewandowski is leaving for the enemy, at least he announced well ahead of time that he won't re-sign and that he is going to leave announcements on any decisions until after the campaign.

And Bayern. Well, there's a reason we all think that club is a fucking shameless piece of trash. Pathetic fuckers need to just throw their money around every time a club threatens them with some actual competition. Fucking sickening. Bayern fans should be ashamed of themselves.

This shit makes me hate this sport sometimes. Such an embarrassing day for football.

yeah and just a week ago hoeneß from bayern said "its not good for the league that 2 clubs are dominating the league so clearly" ....NOW i finally know what he really meant . he meant 2 is not good, should be 1 again.... so sad....why mario?!?! YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE !!!!!! (((((((((
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
April 23 2013 14:55 GMT
#7216
Hope we're giving Real a good fight and the fans in the stadium won't do stupid things. Timing of the announcment was awful but that's life. Only thing I'm sad about is that Götze said "that he could imagine staying in Dortmund forever" blabla. Just have the fucking balls like Lewandowski and say "nah think I want a new challenge".

If he wants to go we should just sell Hummels (hope he nerver leaves but we all know it's not going to happen) to Barca and let Lewa go this summer. Take the 150 or whatever million euro we earned this year, use 50-75 to reduce the debts and invest the rest into 5-7 solid players to make the roster a bit broader. Might not be the best way to ensure a successful next season but I like that the management tries to get some long-term financial stability into the club.
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
April 23 2013 14:59 GMT
#7217
On April 23 2013 23:55 smr wrote:
Hope we're giving Real a good fight and the fans in the stadium won't do stupid things. Timing of the announcment was awful but that's life. Only thing I'm sad about is that Götze said "that he could imagine staying in Dortmund forever" blabla. Just have the fucking balls like Lewandowski and say "nah think I want a new challenge".

If he wants to go we should just sell Hummels (hope he nerver leaves but we all know it's not going to happen) to Barca and let Lewa go this summer. Take the 150 or whatever million euro we earned this year, use 50-75 to reduce the debts and invest the rest into 5-7 solid players to make the roster a bit broader. Might not be the best way to ensure a successful next season but I like that the management tries to get some long-term financial stability into the club.

after i calmed down a little (took me 3 hours) i pretty much agree with you.
i hope some day the name "signal iduna park" is gone again
watzke doing an amazing job with the finances. you could say it was a miracle.
at least we can be sure all the money will be handled well and cool-headed
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
Malaz
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1257 Posts
April 23 2013 15:12 GMT
#7218
Only saving grace would be Uli Hoeneß going to prison for his fiscal fraud, but I sadly don't see that happen :p
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 17:48:22
April 23 2013 17:47 GMT
#7219
A little nsfw hahaha
http://www.futhead.com/fifa/squads/9623232/
Thank god i got a kuba jersey instead of a Gotze jersey last weekend. Dodged a bullet.
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 18:14:04
April 23 2013 17:51 GMT
#7220
On April 23 2013 23:59 MotherOfRunes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 23:55 smr wrote:
Hope we're giving Real a good fight and the fans in the stadium won't do stupid things. Timing of the announcment was awful but that's life. Only thing I'm sad about is that Götze said "that he could imagine staying in Dortmund forever" blabla. Just have the fucking balls like Lewandowski and say "nah think I want a new challenge".

If he wants to go we should just sell Hummels (hope he nerver leaves but we all know it's not going to happen) to Barca and let Lewa go this summer. Take the 150 or whatever million euro we earned this year, use 50-75 to reduce the debts and invest the rest into 5-7 solid players to make the roster a bit broader. Might not be the best way to ensure a successful next season but I like that the management tries to get some long-term financial stability into the club.

after i calmed down a little (took me 3 hours) i pretty much agree with you.
i hope some day the name "signal iduna park" is gone again
watzke doing an amazing job with the finances. you could say it was a miracle.
at least we can be sure all the money will be handled well and cool-headed


The Stadium is supposed to be paid off by 2016 or so, and then we're completely debt-free. We also only spend money we make from football operations, so we shouldn't get into trouble again.

No way. Obviously Bundesliga is not more competitive. Although there are a lot of good teams at the top of the Bundesliga, the talent doesn't continue all the way down like it does in the prem.


First, the gap between the top and the bottom is far smaller in the Bundesliga than the Premier League (although Bayern is screwing this up with upcoming seasons). Play reflects this.

Second,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_football_champions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_football_champions

Number of Distinct Champions

2000-Present
England: 4 (4 repeats)
Germany: 5 (2 repeats)

1990-2000
England: 4 (3 repeats)
Germany: 5 (1 repeat)

1980-1990
England: 4 (2 repeats)
Germany: 4 (4 repeats)

1970-1980
England: 5 (2 repeats)
Germany: 4 (4 repeats)

1960's-1970
England: 7 (0 repeats)
Germany: 7 (0 repeats)

Overall
England: 23
Germany: 29

Overall Repeats
England: 11
Germany: 11

Germany has been more competitive than England since the 70's, and more competitive overall.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
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