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briznokovic
Profile Joined February 2012
Netherlands1 Post
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 14:24:20
February 26 2012 14:22 GMT
#281
On February 03 2012 04:13 Occultus wrote:
Ok TL and especially eshlow
Last time this thread helped me reaaally much so i need your help again, this time its a bit more complicated.
Side info: im a runner for 10 months approx now, running 6-8 times a week.

My left knee is somewhat messed up. It started in January where it hurted a little bit right at the outside of the kneecap (actually AT the kneecap not beside or around it). Could not really stretch or bend the knee but things got better after 1-2 days rest. From there on it was basically an annoying feeling but not really pain. It was maybe a 1,5/10 , more like a slight bruise after slamming your knee under a table (which i didnt) but this feeling was constant. Last week things got worse. After a double training day i wasnt able to walk at all. Walking stairs was a walk through hell and back but this time the pain was more on the inner side of the kneecap. See the red dot at this picture:
[image loading]
From this point on it was a steady on and off. After one week of rest, ice and light medication it was better. First run: Pain returned instantly after the run. Felt more like a burning, stressed kind of pain. Then 4 days rest, a little run and same thing again. No real pain duringthe workout, just a slight feeling that something is rubbing but 3-4 hours later pain returned and everything felt really stiff.
Today i went to the doctor but no real diagnosis yet, i need to wait another week for that but yeah, i dont wanna wait and need some other opinion on it. Ultimately i got the x-ray pictures of my knee, taken today. Maybe you can read something out of it.
Especially the yellow circle part concerns me, this does not seem right. Resolution and quality is quite good. Just click on the picture. Nothing unusual for me on the second picture.
[image loading]
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
My guess is that the muscles holding the knee too weak and because of this its dispositioned. Just hoping the cartilage has not been damaged. Or is it something you cant correct? Do i have to stop running?


Big thanks in advance!


Dont know if u got a diagnosis already but i can tell a bit about it.
I am not a doctor, but a radiology technician (the ppl who take the photos)

To start, the lateral X-ray is of pour quality, they placed the knee in a wrong position. The condyles dont fall over eachother.

The white stripe u see up there (in the circle u drawn) is just a little overlap between your medial condyl and your kneecap.
This means the radiation has to go through more bone, which makes the that spot a little lighter because the photo blackens less.

The anterior X-ray is of resonable/good quality.

On both photos i cant see any weird things bonewise, but if u want to see cartlidge damage an X-ray of the knee only gives 23% sensitivity. That means it's overlooked in 77% of the cases where the damage is not severe enought to see on a X-ray.

When i look at your age, I dont think there is anything wrong with your bones if there hasnt been a trauma (accident etc).

I could make a guess what the problem is, but that wouldnt help you very much and would be speculative.

The best thing would be to ask for a MRI, and stand by it that u need it when the docter refuses it.

gr,

Willem
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
February 26 2012 14:39 GMT
#282
I've read the article on eatmoveimprove about lower back pain and I think it might be possible I have a herniated/bulging disc. The pain is about 13cm above the butt crack and I'm 173cm tall for reference. It hurts a lot if I round my back and I think the pain is in the spine, or right next to it, it's kind of a radiating pain.

I've had this a few times before but I thought it was just a strain and it disappeared after like 2 days so I didn't think much of it. Since then it's sometimes hurt when I've rounded my back to put on a shoe or something, which I don't really think is normal. First time it occured was during barbell rows, then it has happened a few times when I've moved around plates and stuff like that.

My question is if there is any test I can do myself to see if it's likely I have a herniated/bulging disc before I spend the cash to go see an orthopedic doc? I'd prefer not to spend $100 on "it's a strain go rest".
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
February 26 2012 18:45 GMT
#283
On February 26 2012 23:39 Sneakyz wrote:
I've read the article on eatmoveimprove about lower back pain and I think it might be possible I have a herniated/bulging disc. The pain is about 13cm above the butt crack and I'm 173cm tall for reference. It hurts a lot if I round my back and I think the pain is in the spine, or right next to it, it's kind of a radiating pain.

I've had this a few times before but I thought it was just a strain and it disappeared after like 2 days so I didn't think much of it. Since then it's sometimes hurt when I've rounded my back to put on a shoe or something, which I don't really think is normal. First time it occured was during barbell rows, then it has happened a few times when I've moved around plates and stuff like that.

My question is if there is any test I can do myself to see if it's likely I have a herniated/bulging disc before I spend the cash to go see an orthopedic doc? I'd prefer not to spend $100 on "it's a strain go rest".


Not really...

It's possible to rehab stuff like this without professionals if mobility work helps improve your condition and you can ramp back into work slowly.

But if you are still having issues after a few weeks then generally it's best to get it checked out.
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Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
February 27 2012 13:04 GMT
#284
I guess I'll go see a doc sometime next week then, better safe than sorry. I can do deadlifts and all that business completely pain free and being able to do that with a strained back doesn't really make sense to me.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 02:38:10
February 28 2012 03:01 GMT
#285
On February 24 2012 10:18 Release wrote:
Sacroiliac joint issues, had it before.
Question: Both times, it has only been my right side which suffered pain, and particularly during deadlifts and squats. What are some possible theories as to why it would only occur on my right side?


I was wrong. I tried the manipulation but nothing really happened.
I looked at the "so you hurt your lower back" page again and the pain is not in the SI joint area.
In the conclusion picture, it is around the top of the gluteus medius fascia and the iliac crest.
Only on my right side

most of this is repetitive of what has already been posted:
+ Show Spoiler +
2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.html
Squats, Deadlift, Running, Jumping

3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
It aches after an exercise, sharp during

4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
3 after, 6 during
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
Chronic. Can't remember when it first started right now. Probably 1-2 months ago. Miniscule improvement.

6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
It was better for a week when i trained starting at 135lb squat/dead, but now i stopped again

7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. Seems close to the bone, although the bone is close to the surface.

8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
rest

9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
rest=minimal help, movement makes it worse. Not constant, but right side definitely feels different than left during whole day.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?Tissues seem softer/more tender than the one around my left side.

11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
After squat/dead, terrible. Beginning/end: softer/tender than left
12. Any previous injury history?
Had once before although may count as the same injury
13. How's your posture?
Completely straight/slight hyperextension makes it painful
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
quit squats and deads for a while. Track
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
I had a bit of buttwink on my squats. Maybe that caused it, but only on my right side so...
My flexibility issue with left arm means that some weight on left half of barbell is supported by should/wrist. Maybe cause imbalance?

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

On February 14 2012 01:24 Release wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.
this
#s 7,8 and the area just under the shoulder bone
2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.html
Any rack position hurts: 3 squats and cleans.
Pull/chin up: feels like something is going to pop out of position if i try too hard
press/bench press: feels painful after a set


3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
an ache after pressing movements
sharp pain when trying to get proper rack position

4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
0 outside of exercise. 2 or 3 for press. 6 or 7 when trying to get proper rack position
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
chronic; must have been a few months ago. Didn't realize because high bar squat rack doesn't hurt as much. It's gotten worse.

6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
yes a few months

7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
im not sure but i feel like somethings on my left upper back is not properly attached to my arm.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
not much. Some ice and flexibility work.
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
nothing helps, it's gotten slightly worse over a long period of time. It is constant. Increase when i try to do rack position (clean/lowbar/frontsquat)
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
feels a lot more tender on my upper left back where it feels tighter on my upper right back. No swelling
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
same throughout the day except particularly painful in rack position.
12. Any previous injury history?
not related to this
13. How's your posture?
fine
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
rows/bench/press
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
when i'm doing any rack position, i notice that my left shoulder moves backwards. This makes correct low bar impossible for my left side to achieve while my right side is fine. In clean/FS, my wrist has to flex a considerable amount to make up for this. Also, in every grip, my left hand falls closer to the center than my right hand (unless im using mixed grip for deadlift).
I think i was doing a lat pulldown a few months ago when i felt something tear slightly below that area. I rested it for a week and it felt ok after that, but it has been causing me problems.
In terms of flexibility, my left arm can move behind my back a lot easier than my right arm, but my right arm has better ROM in front and above the shoulder.

Did a little research, could this be separated shoulder?
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emjaytron
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia544 Posts
February 28 2012 03:51 GMT
#286
On February 26 2012 23:22 briznokovic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 04:13 Occultus wrote:
Ok TL and especially eshlow
Last time this thread helped me reaaally much so i need your help again, this time its a bit more complicated.
Side info: im a runner for 10 months approx now, running 6-8 times a week.

My left knee is somewhat messed up. It started in January where it hurted a little bit right at the outside of the kneecap (actually AT the kneecap not beside or around it). Could not really stretch or bend the knee but things got better after 1-2 days rest. From there on it was basically an annoying feeling but not really pain. It was maybe a 1,5/10 , more like a slight bruise after slamming your knee under a table (which i didnt) but this feeling was constant. Last week things got worse. After a double training day i wasnt able to walk at all. Walking stairs was a walk through hell and back but this time the pain was more on the inner side of the kneecap. See the red dot at this picture:
[image loading]
From this point on it was a steady on and off. After one week of rest, ice and light medication it was better. First run: Pain returned instantly after the run. Felt more like a burning, stressed kind of pain. Then 4 days rest, a little run and same thing again. No real pain duringthe workout, just a slight feeling that something is rubbing but 3-4 hours later pain returned and everything felt really stiff.
Today i went to the doctor but no real diagnosis yet, i need to wait another week for that but yeah, i dont wanna wait and need some other opinion on it. Ultimately i got the x-ray pictures of my knee, taken today. Maybe you can read something out of it.
Especially the yellow circle part concerns me, this does not seem right. Resolution and quality is quite good. Just click on the picture. Nothing unusual for me on the second picture.
[image loading]
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
My guess is that the muscles holding the knee too weak and because of this its dispositioned. Just hoping the cartilage has not been damaged. Or is it something you cant correct? Do i have to stop running?


Big thanks in advance!


Dont know if u got a diagnosis already but i can tell a bit about it.
I am not a doctor, but a radiology technician (the ppl who take the photos)

To start, the lateral X-ray is of pour quality, they placed the knee in a wrong position. The condyles dont fall over eachother.

The white stripe u see up there (in the circle u drawn) is just a little overlap between your medial condyl and your kneecap.
This means the radiation has to go through more bone, which makes the that spot a little lighter because the photo blackens less.

The anterior X-ray is of resonable/good quality.

On both photos i cant see any weird things bonewise, but if u want to see cartlidge damage an X-ray of the knee only gives 23% sensitivity. That means it's overlooked in 77% of the cases where the damage is not severe enought to see on a X-ray.

When i look at your age, I dont think there is anything wrong with your bones if there hasnt been a trauma (accident etc).

I could make a guess what the problem is, but that wouldnt help you very much and would be speculative.

The best thing would be to ask for a MRI, and stand by it that u need it when the docter refuses it.

gr,

Willem


You are describing an almost perfect example of patella maltracking. Probably from some medial/lateral quads imbalance
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GumThief
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada284 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 01:34:19
February 28 2012 23:14 GMT
#287
When I make a grip with my left hand I have some pretty bad pain in my inner elbow.

Plan of attack? Rest? Stretching my wrist er something? Help!

Imgur won't respond for me so I can't post an example yet. If you guys are left in the dark WTF I am talking about then I will try to upload later.

UPDATE THAT SHI-

1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. [image loading]

2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.html -- Hurts any exercise that I extend my arm, or any exercise when I grip something.

3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp? -- SHARP pain

4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room. -- 5

5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury? -- Acute. Noticed to today after I hit my first snatch. It has since gotten worse.

6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? -- Just one day so far.

7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. -- Inside of my elbow. Like a nerve or tendon..

8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes? -- Complaining.

9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities? --Hurts when I extend my arm, make a fist, hurts to the touch.

10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? -- No

11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day? --pain during exercise. Always hurting - _ -

12. Any previous injury history? -- 3 shoulder dislocations. 2 elbow dislocations as a child.

13. How's your posture? Fantastic!

14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports? -- Elbow routine is standard. OH Press, BP, masturbation.

15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help? -- .... Help
:))
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
February 29 2012 00:43 GMT
#288
On February 29 2012 08:14 GumThief wrote:
When I make a grip with my left hand I have some pretty bad pain in my inner elbow.

Plan of attack? Rest? Stretching my wrist er something? Help!

Imgur won't respond for me so I can't post an example yet. If you guys are left in the dark WTF I am talking about then I will try to upload later.


Fill out the template in the OP!
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GumThief
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada284 Posts
February 29 2012 01:34 GMT
#289
Updated. :p ^^
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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 07:30:55
February 29 2012 02:38 GMT
#290
On February 28 2012 12:01 Release wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 24 2012 10:18 Release wrote:
Sacroiliac joint issues, had it before.
Question: Both times, it has only been my right side which suffered pain, and particularly during deadlifts and squats. What are some possible theories as to why it would only occur on my right side?


I was wrong. I tried the manipulation but nothing really happened.
I looked at the "so you hurt your lower back" page again and the pain is not in the SI joint area.
In the conclusion picture, it is around the top of the gluteus medius fascia and the iliac crest.
Only on my right side

most of this is repetitive of what has already been posted:
+ Show Spoiler +
2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.html
Squats, Deadlift, Running, Jumping

3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
It aches after an exercise, sharp during

4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
3 after, 6 during
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
Chronic. Can't remember when it first started right now. Probably 1-2 months ago. Miniscule improvement.

6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
It was better for a week when i trained starting at 135lb squat/dead, but now i stopped again

7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. Seems close to the bone, although the bone is close to the surface.

8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
rest

9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
rest=minimal help, movement makes it worse. Not constant, but right side definitely feels different than left during whole day.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?Tissues seem softer/more tender than the one around my left side.

11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
After squat/dead, terrible. Beginning/end: softer/tender than left
12. Any previous injury history?
Had once before although may count as the same injury
13. How's your posture?
Completely straight/slight hyperextension makes it painful
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
quit squats and deads for a while. Track
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
I had a bit of buttwink on my squats. Maybe that caused it, but only on my right side so...
My flexibility issue with left arm means that some weight on left half of barbell is supported by should/wrist. Maybe cause imbalance?

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 01:24 Release wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.
this
#s 7,8 and the area just under the shoulder bone
2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.html
Any rack position hurts: 3 squats and cleans.
Pull/chin up: feels like something is going to pop out of position if i try too hard
press/bench press: feels painful after a set


3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
an ache after pressing movements
sharp pain when trying to get proper rack position

4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
0 outside of exercise. 2 or 3 for press. 6 or 7 when trying to get proper rack position
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
chronic; must have been a few months ago. Didn't realize because high bar squat rack doesn't hurt as much. It's gotten worse.

6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
yes a few months

7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
im not sure but i feel like somethings on my left upper back is not properly attached to my arm.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
not much. Some ice and flexibility work.
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
nothing helps, it's gotten slightly worse over a long period of time. It is constant. Increase when i try to do rack position (clean/lowbar/frontsquat)
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
feels a lot more tender on my upper left back where it feels tighter on my upper right back. No swelling
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
same throughout the day except particularly painful in rack position.
12. Any previous injury history?
not related to this
13. How's your posture?
fine
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
rows/bench/press
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
when i'm doing any rack position, i notice that my left shoulder moves backwards. This makes correct low bar impossible for my left side to achieve while my right side is fine. In clean/FS, my wrist has to flex a considerable amount to make up for this. Also, in every grip, my left hand falls closer to the center than my right hand (unless im using mixed grip for deadlift).
I think i was doing a lat pulldown a few months ago when i felt something tear slightly below that area. I rested it for a week and it felt ok after that, but it has been causing me problems.
In terms of flexibility, my left arm can move behind my back a lot easier than my right arm, but my right arm has better ROM in front and above the shoulder.

Did a little research, could this be separated shoulder?



Update: saw a trainer on this and she said that it was tight neck muscles. She had me stretch, didn't really seem to change anything. Feel like it is something else, but she said it wasn't separated shoulder.
Update2: I'll be uploading pictures about what i mean when i say my left shoulder moves backwards and the lack of ROM.
[image loading]
The red shows that my hand is way in front of my shoulder, which moves behind my back.
In terms of the first two pictures, the right shoulder actually moves forward and partially covers the chest, while the left shoulder does not cover the chest (look near the armpits)
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 16:31:11
February 29 2012 15:01 GMT
#291
1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.
[image loading]
2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
I've been having pain in my wrists while doing squats. I've been really focusing on locking the bar on my back not gripping it (I am keeping thumb over the bar now thanks SS) I think part of the problem may be when I go to rack the weight and shifts on to my wrists as I go more vertical. Now when I clench my right fist (only the right one) and especially if my thumb crosses over my finger I get pain in my palm and wrist.Just found out holding a pen causes the same pain as well >.<

3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
Sharp, tingles after I try to reproduce the pain a couple times ha.

4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
2-3

5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
Acute, since started squatting two weeks ago.

6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
Same as above.

7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
Inside my palm, not superficial. The wrist pain seems to be on the palm side of the arm.

8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
Went from only bothering me immediately following a set to pain at work later on in the day.

9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
Well clenching my fist makes it worse. Pain is not constant. I haven't noticed anything when benching, deadlifting, OHP.

10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
No swelling. Forearms are tight on the top and bottom but nothing is tender.

11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
Bothers me after squats. Previously hasn't bothered me at all more than a few hours after the workout.

12. Any previous injury history?
My right wrist felt like it had some tendonitis (was worried about carpal tunnel stuff but hopefully skeptical) maybe 6 months ago. Changing my workdesk set up has apparently alleviated that.

13. How's your posture?
Working on it. Fair to good I would say.

14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
Nothing specific to my grip or anything. Doing deadlift double overhand, if that's the terminology?

15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
Nothing more comes to mind. If you have any input on things I can be checking form-wise that would great, I'm going off SS only at the moment.
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
February 29 2012 17:58 GMT
#292
On February 29 2012 08:14 GumThief wrote:
When I make a grip with my left hand I have some pretty bad pain in my inner elbow.

Plan of attack? Rest? Stretching my wrist er something? Help!

Imgur won't respond for me so I can't post an example yet. If you guys are left in the dark WTF I am talking about then I will try to upload later.

UPDATE THAT SHI-

1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. [image loading]

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2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.html -- Hurts any exercise that I extend my arm, or any exercise when I grip something.

3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp? -- SHARP pain

4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room. -- 5

5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury? -- Acute. Noticed to today after I hit my first snatch. It has since gotten worse.

6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? -- Just one day so far.

7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. -- Inside of my elbow. Like a nerve or tendon..

8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes? -- Complaining.

9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities? --Hurts when I extend my arm, make a fist, hurts to the touch.

10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? -- No

11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day? --pain during exercise. Always hurting - _ -

12. Any previous injury history? -- 3 shoulder dislocations. 2 elbow dislocations as a child.

13. How's your posture? Fantastic!

14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports? -- Elbow routine is standard. OH Press, BP, masturbation.

15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help? -- .... Help


Sounds like some good old medial epicondylitis.... aka golfers elbow.

This will help you get started for rehabbing:

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/08/on-tendonitis/
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
February 29 2012 18:07 GMT
#293
On February 29 2012 11:38 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 12:01 Release wrote:
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On February 24 2012 10:18 Release wrote:
Sacroiliac joint issues, had it before.
Question: Both times, it has only been my right side which suffered pain, and particularly during deadlifts and squats. What are some possible theories as to why it would only occur on my right side?


I was wrong. I tried the manipulation but nothing really happened.
I looked at the "so you hurt your lower back" page again and the pain is not in the SI joint area.
In the conclusion picture, it is around the top of the gluteus medius fascia and the iliac crest.
Only on my right side

most of this is repetitive of what has already been posted:
+ Show Spoiler +
2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.html
Squats, Deadlift, Running, Jumping

3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
It aches after an exercise, sharp during

4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
3 after, 6 during
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
Chronic. Can't remember when it first started right now. Probably 1-2 months ago. Miniscule improvement.

6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
It was better for a week when i trained starting at 135lb squat/dead, but now i stopped again

7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. Seems close to the bone, although the bone is close to the surface.

8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
rest

9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
rest=minimal help, movement makes it worse. Not constant, but right side definitely feels different than left during whole day.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?Tissues seem softer/more tender than the one around my left side.

11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
After squat/dead, terrible. Beginning/end: softer/tender than left
12. Any previous injury history?
Had once before although may count as the same injury
13. How's your posture?
Completely straight/slight hyperextension makes it painful
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
quit squats and deads for a while. Track
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
I had a bit of buttwink on my squats. Maybe that caused it, but only on my right side so...
My flexibility issue with left arm means that some weight on left half of barbell is supported by should/wrist. Maybe cause imbalance?

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

On February 14 2012 01:24 Release wrote:
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1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.
this
#s 7,8 and the area just under the shoulder bone
2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.html
Any rack position hurts: 3 squats and cleans.
Pull/chin up: feels like something is going to pop out of position if i try too hard
press/bench press: feels painful after a set


3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
an ache after pressing movements
sharp pain when trying to get proper rack position

4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
0 outside of exercise. 2 or 3 for press. 6 or 7 when trying to get proper rack position
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
chronic; must have been a few months ago. Didn't realize because high bar squat rack doesn't hurt as much. It's gotten worse.

6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
yes a few months

7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
im not sure but i feel like somethings on my left upper back is not properly attached to my arm.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
not much. Some ice and flexibility work.
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
nothing helps, it's gotten slightly worse over a long period of time. It is constant. Increase when i try to do rack position (clean/lowbar/frontsquat)
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
feels a lot more tender on my upper left back where it feels tighter on my upper right back. No swelling
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
same throughout the day except particularly painful in rack position.
12. Any previous injury history?
not related to this
13. How's your posture?
fine
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
rows/bench/press
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
when i'm doing any rack position, i notice that my left shoulder moves backwards. This makes correct low bar impossible for my left side to achieve while my right side is fine. In clean/FS, my wrist has to flex a considerable amount to make up for this. Also, in every grip, my left hand falls closer to the center than my right hand (unless im using mixed grip for deadlift).
I think i was doing a lat pulldown a few months ago when i felt something tear slightly below that area. I rested it for a week and it felt ok after that, but it has been causing me problems.
In terms of flexibility, my left arm can move behind my back a lot easier than my right arm, but my right arm has better ROM in front and above the shoulder.

Did a little research, could this be separated shoulder?



Update: saw a trainer on this and she said that it was tight neck muscles. She had me stretch, didn't really seem to change anything. Feel like it is something else, but she said it wasn't separated shoulder.
Update2: I'll be uploading pictures about what i mean when i say my left shoulder moves backwards and the lack of ROM.
[image loading]
The red shows that my hand is way in front of my shoulder, which moves behind my back.
In terms of the first two pictures, the right shoulder actually moves forward and partially covers the chest, while the left shoulder does not cover the chest (look near the armpits)


Sounds like an issue with your shoulder external rotation

https://www.google.com/search?q=external rotation stretch

Is this the only issue you have or is the other low back thing still giving you problems?
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
February 29 2012 18:11 GMT
#294
On March 01 2012 00:01 mordek wrote:
1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.
[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler +
2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
I've been having pain in my wrists while doing squats. I've been really focusing on locking the bar on my back not gripping it (I am keeping thumb over the bar now thanks SS) I think part of the problem may be when I go to rack the weight and shifts on to my wrists as I go more vertical. Now when I clench my right fist (only the right one) and especially if my thumb crosses over my finger I get pain in my palm and wrist.Just found out holding a pen causes the same pain as well >.<

3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
Sharp, tingles after I try to reproduce the pain a couple times ha.

4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
2-3

5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
Acute, since started squatting two weeks ago.

6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
Same as above.

7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
Inside my palm, not superficial. The wrist pain seems to be on the palm side of the arm.

8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
Went from only bothering me immediately following a set to pain at work later on in the day.

9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
Well clenching my fist makes it worse. Pain is not constant. I haven't noticed anything when benching, deadlifting, OHP.

10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
No swelling. Forearms are tight on the top and bottom but nothing is tender.

11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
Bothers me after squats. Previously hasn't bothered me at all more than a few hours after the workout.

12. Any previous injury history?
My right wrist felt like it had some tendonitis (was worried about carpal tunnel stuff but hopefully skeptical) maybe 6 months ago. Changing my workdesk set up has apparently alleviated that.

13. How's your posture?
Working on it. Fair to good I would say.

14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
Nothing specific to my grip or anything. Doing deadlift double overhand, if that's the terminology?

15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
Nothing more comes to mind. If you have any input on things I can be checking form-wise that would great, I'm going off SS only at the moment.


Does stretching or any type of wrist mobility work help at all?

It seems like just some compression of the median nerve or something like that.

See if hte median nerve glide helps out a bit:
http://www.handhealthresources.com/Solutions Pages/Exercises.htm

If ice or heat helps then use it. ANti-inflams may help if it's some inflammation.


I would also reevaluate your grip on holding the bar... you may need some more shoulder flexibility too.

Do you have a vid of your squat?
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 19:08:35
February 29 2012 19:01 GMT
#295
On March 01 2012 03:11 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 00:01 mordek wrote:
1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.
[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler +
2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
I've been having pain in my wrists while doing squats. I've been really focusing on locking the bar on my back not gripping it (I am keeping thumb over the bar now thanks SS) I think part of the problem may be when I go to rack the weight and shifts on to my wrists as I go more vertical. Now when I clench my right fist (only the right one) and especially if my thumb crosses over my finger I get pain in my palm and wrist.Just found out holding a pen causes the same pain as well >.<

3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
Sharp, tingles after I try to reproduce the pain a couple times ha.

4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
2-3

5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
Acute, since started squatting two weeks ago.

6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
Same as above.

7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
Inside my palm, not superficial. The wrist pain seems to be on the palm side of the arm.

8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
Went from only bothering me immediately following a set to pain at work later on in the day.

9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
Well clenching my fist makes it worse. Pain is not constant. I haven't noticed anything when benching, deadlifting, OHP.

10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
No swelling. Forearms are tight on the top and bottom but nothing is tender.

11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
Bothers me after squats. Previously hasn't bothered me at all more than a few hours after the workout.

12. Any previous injury history?
My right wrist felt like it had some tendonitis (was worried about carpal tunnel stuff but hopefully skeptical) maybe 6 months ago. Changing my workdesk set up has apparently alleviated that.

13. How's your posture?
Working on it. Fair to good I would say.

14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
Nothing specific to my grip or anything. Doing deadlift double overhand, if that's the terminology?

15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
Nothing more comes to mind. If you have any input on things I can be checking form-wise that would great, I'm going off SS only at the moment.


Does stretching or any type of wrist mobility work help at all?

It seems like just some compression of the median nerve or something like that.

See if hte median nerve glide helps out a bit:
http://www.handhealthresources.com/Solutions Pages/Exercises.htm

If ice or heat helps then use it. ANti-inflams may help if it's some inflammation.


I would also reevaluate your grip on holding the bar... you may need some more shoulder flexibility too.

Do you have a vid of your squat?

After posting and giving it more thought shoulder flexibility came to mind. I've been working on it while dabbling with the bodyweight training stuff. I don't have any videos of my squat as of now. I'll try the nerve glide and let you know. Can't thank you enough for the abundant amounts of information in this sub-forum!

Median nerve glide: Yep! Feel it there. I actually tried the ulnar one earlier today just from seeing it while browsing this thread a week or so ago but it's definitely the median nerve where there is tension. Is it possible having my elbows back to lock the bar on my back is irritating the median nerve? So pec and shoulder stretches are in order?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 19:21:27
February 29 2012 19:21 GMT
#296
On March 01 2012 04:01 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 03:11 eshlow wrote:
On March 01 2012 00:01 mordek wrote:
1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.
[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler +
2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
I've been having pain in my wrists while doing squats. I've been really focusing on locking the bar on my back not gripping it (I am keeping thumb over the bar now thanks SS) I think part of the problem may be when I go to rack the weight and shifts on to my wrists as I go more vertical. Now when I clench my right fist (only the right one) and especially if my thumb crosses over my finger I get pain in my palm and wrist.Just found out holding a pen causes the same pain as well >.<

3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
Sharp, tingles after I try to reproduce the pain a couple times ha.

4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
2-3

5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
Acute, since started squatting two weeks ago.

6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
Same as above.

7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
Inside my palm, not superficial. The wrist pain seems to be on the palm side of the arm.

8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
Went from only bothering me immediately following a set to pain at work later on in the day.

9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
Well clenching my fist makes it worse. Pain is not constant. I haven't noticed anything when benching, deadlifting, OHP.

10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
No swelling. Forearms are tight on the top and bottom but nothing is tender.

11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
Bothers me after squats. Previously hasn't bothered me at all more than a few hours after the workout.

12. Any previous injury history?
My right wrist felt like it had some tendonitis (was worried about carpal tunnel stuff but hopefully skeptical) maybe 6 months ago. Changing my workdesk set up has apparently alleviated that.

13. How's your posture?
Working on it. Fair to good I would say.

14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
Nothing specific to my grip or anything. Doing deadlift double overhand, if that's the terminology?

15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
Nothing more comes to mind. If you have any input on things I can be checking form-wise that would great, I'm going off SS only at the moment.


Does stretching or any type of wrist mobility work help at all?

It seems like just some compression of the median nerve or something like that.

See if hte median nerve glide helps out a bit:
http://www.handhealthresources.com/Solutions Pages/Exercises.htm

If ice or heat helps then use it. ANti-inflams may help if it's some inflammation.


I would also reevaluate your grip on holding the bar... you may need some more shoulder flexibility too.

Do you have a vid of your squat?

After posting and giving it more thought shoulder flexibility came to mind. I've been working on it while dabbling with the bodyweight training stuff. I don't have any videos of my squat as of now. I'll try the nerve glide and let you know. Can't thank you enough for the abundant amounts of information in this sub-forum!

Median nerve glide: Yep! Feel it there. I actually tried the ulnar one earlier today just from seeing it while browsing this thread a week or so ago but it's definitely the median nerve where there is tension. Is it possible having my elbows back to lock the bar on my back is irritating the median nerve? So pec and shoulder stretches are in order?


Yeah, that would help.

Also work the median nerve glides too because it does help loosen any scar tissue/adhesions that may form and impair movement of hte nerve during movements and/or cut off blood supply.
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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 03:26:45
March 01 2012 02:00 GMT
#297
On March 01 2012 03:07 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 11:38 Release wrote:
On February 28 2012 12:01 Release wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 24 2012 10:18 Release wrote:
Sacroiliac joint issues, had it before.
Question: Both times, it has only been my right side which suffered pain, and particularly during deadlifts and squats. What are some possible theories as to why it would only occur on my right side?


I was wrong. I tried the manipulation but nothing really happened.
I looked at the "so you hurt your lower back" page again and the pain is not in the SI joint area.
In the conclusion picture, it is around the top of the gluteus medius fascia and the iliac crest.
Only on my right side

most of this is repetitive of what has already been posted:
+ Show Spoiler +
2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.html
Squats, Deadlift, Running, Jumping

3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
It aches after an exercise, sharp during

4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
3 after, 6 during
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
Chronic. Can't remember when it first started right now. Probably 1-2 months ago. Miniscule improvement.

6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
It was better for a week when i trained starting at 135lb squat/dead, but now i stopped again

7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. Seems close to the bone, although the bone is close to the surface.

8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
rest

9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
rest=minimal help, movement makes it worse. Not constant, but right side definitely feels different than left during whole day.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?Tissues seem softer/more tender than the one around my left side.

11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
After squat/dead, terrible. Beginning/end: softer/tender than left
12. Any previous injury history?
Had once before although may count as the same injury
13. How's your posture?
Completely straight/slight hyperextension makes it painful
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
quit squats and deads for a while. Track
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
I had a bit of buttwink on my squats. Maybe that caused it, but only on my right side so...
My flexibility issue with left arm means that some weight on left half of barbell is supported by should/wrist. Maybe cause imbalance?

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

On February 14 2012 01:24 Release wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.
this
#s 7,8 and the area just under the shoulder bone
2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.html
Any rack position hurts: 3 squats and cleans.
Pull/chin up: feels like something is going to pop out of position if i try too hard
press/bench press: feels painful after a set


3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
an ache after pressing movements
sharp pain when trying to get proper rack position

4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
0 outside of exercise. 2 or 3 for press. 6 or 7 when trying to get proper rack position
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
chronic; must have been a few months ago. Didn't realize because high bar squat rack doesn't hurt as much. It's gotten worse.

6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
yes a few months

7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
im not sure but i feel like somethings on my left upper back is not properly attached to my arm.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
not much. Some ice and flexibility work.
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
nothing helps, it's gotten slightly worse over a long period of time. It is constant. Increase when i try to do rack position (clean/lowbar/frontsquat)
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
feels a lot more tender on my upper left back where it feels tighter on my upper right back. No swelling
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
same throughout the day except particularly painful in rack position.
12. Any previous injury history?
not related to this
13. How's your posture?
fine
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
rows/bench/press
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
when i'm doing any rack position, i notice that my left shoulder moves backwards. This makes correct low bar impossible for my left side to achieve while my right side is fine. In clean/FS, my wrist has to flex a considerable amount to make up for this. Also, in every grip, my left hand falls closer to the center than my right hand (unless im using mixed grip for deadlift).
I think i was doing a lat pulldown a few months ago when i felt something tear slightly below that area. I rested it for a week and it felt ok after that, but it has been causing me problems.
In terms of flexibility, my left arm can move behind my back a lot easier than my right arm, but my right arm has better ROM in front and above the shoulder.

Did a little research, could this be separated shoulder?



Update: saw a trainer on this and she said that it was tight neck muscles. She had me stretch, didn't really seem to change anything. Feel like it is something else, but she said it wasn't separated shoulder.
Update2: I'll be uploading pictures about what i mean when i say my left shoulder moves backwards and the lack of ROM.
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The red shows that my hand is way in front of my shoulder, which moves behind my back.
In terms of the first two pictures, the right shoulder actually moves forward and partially covers the chest, while the left shoulder does not cover the chest (look near the armpits)


Sounds like an issue with your shoulder external rotation

https://www.google.com/search?q=external rotation stretch

Is this the only issue you have or is the other low back thing still giving you problems?

Lower back thing is still going on. Haven't tested it in a while.
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Saurabhinator
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Australia347 Posts
March 05 2012 04:39 GMT
#298
I recently picked up some woes at the hips:
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1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.
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2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.html

squats aggravate it the most, usually after a set of squats i have difficulty walking. Sometimes just walking and slight twisting of leg can cause a slight pain.

3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?

sharp.

4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.

minor maybe 3 or 4

5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?

Right after a session of squatting (Feb 29); as long as I don't squat too much it seems to be ok. I seem to be recovering slowly.

6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?

I've stopped putting weights on the barbell when i squat, so I've been doing empty bar squats. I've done it for two sessions, expecting the problem to go away quickly but I'm starting to think it may linger around a bit longer.

7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.

It feels like it's around the joint between leg and hip, like a slight sting with some movements of leg, walking is mostly fine though.

8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?

don't know what to do yet. :/

9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?

Doing back extension exercises seem to make it better.
Doing squats seems to make it worse.


10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?

I can't tell that particular muscles are tighter than others

11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?

time of day and doesn't seem to matter for this.

12. Any previous injury history?

at the hip; nope

13. How's your posture?

Mostly good, maybe a slight hunch.

14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?

15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?

I've gone from dude who does no exercise in months to starting strength (which I just started around three weeks ago).

--
Something different:
I also usually have some sharp pain in my left shoulder when i first try to get under the squat rack but once i get my arms and shoulders in the correct position and start squatting it isn't a problem. Not sure if I should be worried about this or not.
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
March 05 2012 17:39 GMT
#299
On March 05 2012 13:39 Saurabhinator wrote:
I recently picked up some woes at the hips:
+ Show Spoiler +
1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.
[image loading]

2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.html

squats aggravate it the most, usually after a set of squats i have difficulty walking. Sometimes just walking and slight twisting of leg can cause a slight pain.

3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?

sharp.

4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.

minor maybe 3 or 4

5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?

Right after a session of squatting (Feb 29); as long as I don't squat too much it seems to be ok. I seem to be recovering slowly.

6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?

I've stopped putting weights on the barbell when i squat, so I've been doing empty bar squats. I've done it for two sessions, expecting the problem to go away quickly but I'm starting to think it may linger around a bit longer.

7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.

It feels like it's around the joint between leg and hip, like a slight sting with some movements of leg, walking is mostly fine though.

8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?

don't know what to do yet. :/

9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?

Doing back extension exercises seem to make it better.
Doing squats seems to make it worse.


10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?

I can't tell that particular muscles are tighter than others

11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?

time of day and doesn't seem to matter for this.

12. Any previous injury history?

at the hip; nope

13. How's your posture?

Mostly good, maybe a slight hunch.

14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?

15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?

I've gone from dude who does no exercise in months to starting strength (which I just started around three weeks ago).

--
Something different:
I also usually have some sharp pain in my left shoulder when i first try to get under the squat rack but once i get my arms and shoulders in the correct position and start squatting it isn't a problem. Not sure if I should be worried about this or not.


Hmmm, I'm not quite sure about the hip thing because there's not enough information for me to figure out what type of issue there is. I suspect it could be a potential mobility issue... maybe FAI (femoral acetabular impingement) but it could also be some soft tissue issue, or maybe SI joint.

If there's any way for you to get to a physical therapist that would be a good idea.


The shoulder seems like a typical flexibility issue without more information. I would suggest stretching the chest and other tight muscles as retracting the scaps if you have poor posture can cause some pain when setting up for a proper squat
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KOVU
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark708 Posts
March 05 2012 20:22 GMT
#300
Friend of mine has slight pain in the wrist after bench pressing. When watching his bench his wrist is straight and form looks really good. Any quick tips on strengthening the wrist?

My neck pain went away after a couple of days of stretching <3
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