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On February 23 2012 03:55 AirbladeOrange wrote:
How long have you been training? Are you only running on the weekends? If so, just get out there and run more often. Very gradually build up the amount you are running and don't worry about training faster until you are training more.
I work out four times a week, but I only run two of those, tops. I could run all four, but most of the treadmills in my gym suck, so I mix it up with either the bike or the elliptical. I've been physically active for probably two years now (dropped 50lbs in about the first 6 months of working out and eating right  ), but only started running any decent amount probably 3 months ago. I was honestly surprised the first time I hopped on a treadmill and ran for 45 minutes. The weather is starting to get nice out here, so I'll probably looking into running outside maybe 3 or 4 times a week.
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On February 23 2012 02:50 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 20:09 dudeman001 wrote:On February 20 2012 23:12 Liquid`NonY wrote:On February 20 2012 14:22 Runnin wrote:On February 20 2012 12:14 Liquid`NonY wrote:On February 19 2012 12:57 L_Master wrote:On February 18 2012 16:28 Liquid`NonY wrote:
If you are coming down from longer distances to run the 400m, then I suggest you start out running pretty close to full speed during the first curve. As you're coming out of the curve, find a very strong but comfortable pace, get a good rhythm. Then the rest of it is just trying to hold on to that pace. It's pretty rare for someone to have their last 100m faster than their 2nd or 3rd. In other words, 400m runners don't save energy for a kick at the end (unless they're running a strategical race for place, not time). You shouldn't feel any extreme fatigue through the first 300m. If you are, then you could probably get a faster time by slowing down the first 300m.
If you're coming up from 100m 200m, then you generally don't want to do close to full speed during the first 100m because your full speed is too fast and too taxing. You want to get a good start and then immediately find that comfortable pace.
source: I ran a 48.9 in high school. Teammate ran 46.1 Yea, I'm definitely no sprinter. I think 13.5 is pretty darn slow for 100m and I'm a distance guy, though it will be interesting to see how much I can improve on that mark. Obviously going to need more speed than that to ever have a legit chance at running under say 2:00/4:30. Might need to tone it down just a little going out as I was definitely feeling the legs start to lock up with about 120m to go, and was really tying up bad with 70m or so left to go. Felt like I went out easy enough, but it could be a combination of not being used to that sorta of race (been years since I last even raced a mile, let alone 800m or shorter) and going out harder than I need it to. 48.9's a pretty nice HS time, especially since you were more a middle distance guy right? What kind of 800/1500 times did you run; something low 1:50's or better I'd guess for the 800 and probably anywhere from 4:00 on down for 1500m? That 46.1 your teamate ran, was that a HS time? It's damn good either way but that would be a sick, sick HS time! Yeah, 46.1 also a HS time. Really fast guy. I ran 1:54 sophomore year, 1:53 junior year, did not compete senior year. Also ran 14:59 3 mile (not 5k) junior year cross country. i ran a 9:43 3200m on the track sophomore year, but just sat behind the leader the whole race and sprinted at the end to win it. was just scoring points for team. didn't do 1500m/1600m much.. usually just for scoring points. I think my PR was something like 4:23 for 1600m You must have had an insane 4x4 team. How did your training change when you went to college? Was it a major change or just building on what you had done in HS? Yeah we had a pretty good 4x4, but not the best in Texas. Texas is really fast at pretty much every event. I'm not sure what our best time ever was, maybe 3:13 or so. In college I did a lot more mileage. In HS I was only doing about 30 miles a week. College I bumped up to 60, but coach wanted me at around 70 eventually. I had some pretty good practices the fall of my freshman year, like a 13 mile run in 1:13 and a track workout of 3200m in 9:30, 10 min rest, 12x400 starting a 400 every 2 minutes I was doing 62-63, then at the end I still had so much left that I did 59 58 53 for the last three. But got depressed that December and had a pretty terrible first half of the track season in spring and then quit =[ Omg that's amazing. You ran 13 miles at a pace faster than my best mile time.  I need to motivate myself so much harder, I'm such a lazy runner. oh oops it was actually 1:18. i was right at 6:00min/mile pace. dunno how i wrote 1:13. that's pretty fast. im sorry if this is still faster than your mile PR
Hahaha well now I feel a little better since I had a sub-6 mile pr :D That was actually 5 years ago in high school too, I should really re-time myself lol.
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On February 23 2012 05:54 ghost_403 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 03:55 AirbladeOrange wrote:
How long have you been training? Are you only running on the weekends? If so, just get out there and run more often. Very gradually build up the amount you are running and don't worry about training faster until you are training more.
I work out four times a week, but I only run two of those, tops. I could run all four, but most of the treadmills in my gym suck, so I mix it up with either the bike or the elliptical. I've been physically active for probably two years now (dropped 50lbs in about the first 6 months of working out and eating right ), but only started running any decent amount probably 3 months ago. I was honestly surprised the first time I hopped on a treadmill and ran for 45 minutes. The weather is starting to get nice out here, so I'll probably looking into running outside maybe 3 or 4 times a week.
Yea, definitely just get your frequency of running up. You can survive a half running only like 20mpw, but you won't be able to run a decent time and honestly the experience probably won't be that pleasant.
Work on your consistency and get to 6 or 7 days per week of running. I think it's perfectly reasonable to shoot for mid-May (quite possibly sooner) for this. From there start increasing the length of your runs, and do a long run that is about 20-25% of your weekly mileage (i.e. if your running 30 mpw your long run should be 6-8 of those). If you build to somewhere between 40-50 mpw with a few 10-13 mile long runs you'll be ready to tear it up.
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On February 23 2012 09:59 dudeman001 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 02:50 Liquid`NonY wrote:On February 22 2012 20:09 dudeman001 wrote:On February 20 2012 23:12 Liquid`NonY wrote:On February 20 2012 14:22 Runnin wrote:On February 20 2012 12:14 Liquid`NonY wrote:On February 19 2012 12:57 L_Master wrote:On February 18 2012 16:28 Liquid`NonY wrote:
If you are coming down from longer distances to run the 400m, then I suggest you start out running pretty close to full speed during the first curve. As you're coming out of the curve, find a very strong but comfortable pace, get a good rhythm. Then the rest of it is just trying to hold on to that pace. It's pretty rare for someone to have their last 100m faster than their 2nd or 3rd. In other words, 400m runners don't save energy for a kick at the end (unless they're running a strategical race for place, not time). You shouldn't feel any extreme fatigue through the first 300m. If you are, then you could probably get a faster time by slowing down the first 300m.
If you're coming up from 100m 200m, then you generally don't want to do close to full speed during the first 100m because your full speed is too fast and too taxing. You want to get a good start and then immediately find that comfortable pace.
source: I ran a 48.9 in high school. Teammate ran 46.1 Yea, I'm definitely no sprinter. I think 13.5 is pretty darn slow for 100m and I'm a distance guy, though it will be interesting to see how much I can improve on that mark. Obviously going to need more speed than that to ever have a legit chance at running under say 2:00/4:30. Might need to tone it down just a little going out as I was definitely feeling the legs start to lock up with about 120m to go, and was really tying up bad with 70m or so left to go. Felt like I went out easy enough, but it could be a combination of not being used to that sorta of race (been years since I last even raced a mile, let alone 800m or shorter) and going out harder than I need it to. 48.9's a pretty nice HS time, especially since you were more a middle distance guy right? What kind of 800/1500 times did you run; something low 1:50's or better I'd guess for the 800 and probably anywhere from 4:00 on down for 1500m? That 46.1 your teamate ran, was that a HS time? It's damn good either way but that would be a sick, sick HS time! Yeah, 46.1 also a HS time. Really fast guy. I ran 1:54 sophomore year, 1:53 junior year, did not compete senior year. Also ran 14:59 3 mile (not 5k) junior year cross country. i ran a 9:43 3200m on the track sophomore year, but just sat behind the leader the whole race and sprinted at the end to win it. was just scoring points for team. didn't do 1500m/1600m much.. usually just for scoring points. I think my PR was something like 4:23 for 1600m You must have had an insane 4x4 team. How did your training change when you went to college? Was it a major change or just building on what you had done in HS? Yeah we had a pretty good 4x4, but not the best in Texas. Texas is really fast at pretty much every event. I'm not sure what our best time ever was, maybe 3:13 or so. In college I did a lot more mileage. In HS I was only doing about 30 miles a week. College I bumped up to 60, but coach wanted me at around 70 eventually. I had some pretty good practices the fall of my freshman year, like a 13 mile run in 1:13 and a track workout of 3200m in 9:30, 10 min rest, 12x400 starting a 400 every 2 minutes I was doing 62-63, then at the end I still had so much left that I did 59 58 53 for the last three. But got depressed that December and had a pretty terrible first half of the track season in spring and then quit =[ Omg that's amazing. You ran 13 miles at a pace faster than my best mile time. I need to motivate myself so much harder, I'm such a lazy runner. oh oops it was actually 1:18. i was right at 6:00min/mile pace. dunno how i wrote 1:13. that's pretty fast. im sorry if this is still faster than your mile PR Hahaha well now I feel a little better since I had a sub-6 mile pr :D That was actually 5 years ago in high school too, I should really re-time myself lol.
What's depressing is when you realize that people run marathons at 4:43 mile pace.
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Oh yeah, we did a Eurofit test at university today. Owned the beep (Leger) test! I'm at the 95'th percentile. I managed to get my heart rate over 200 for 4 entire minutes at the end, with a max of 212.
Also did amazing at the plate tapping. I'm about average/slightly above average for everything else.
Now we need to interpret these results to find a sport that's good for us. I'm not tall enough for basketball and I can't think of anything else that requires good endurance and arm speed. Boxing? + Show Spoiler +I'm afraid masturbation is not a sport.
(I'm currently doing athletics (200 m sprint), and just started Lacrosse)
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On February 23 2012 12:46 Seth_ wrote:Oh yeah, we did a Eurofit test at university today. Owned the beep (Leger) test! I'm at the 95'th percentile. I managed to get my heart rate over 200 for 4 entire minutes at the end, with a max of 212. Also did amazing at the plate tapping. I'm about average/slightly above average for everything else. Now we need to interpret these results to find a sport that's good for us. I'm not tall enough for basketball and I can't think of anything else that requires good endurance and arm speed. Boxing? + Show Spoiler +I'm afraid masturbation is not a sport. (I'm currently doing athletics (200 m sprint), and just started Lacrosse)
Haha the beep test! I remember that from my HS PE days!!
Funny part was there were like settings for 20m and 25m (maybe not right numbers but you get the point) and the first time they used the 25m settings. Then at the end of the year they used the 25m settings. The best score from beginning of semester was like low 40 something and at the end it was like 120 something. Best part is the teacher wasn't AT ALL suspicious of the results and was super happy that we had all improved so much lol!
Training is back to going okay, but had a shitty two weeks before this with colds/random events only enabling me to run like 20 miles over the course of these last two.
I'm going to really try to crack down on my eating now and start eating really clean...gotta stop this silly semi-binge eating crap (even if my mileage somewhat allows me to support it).
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On March 13 2012 07:01 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 12:46 Seth_ wrote:Oh yeah, we did a Eurofit test at university today. Owned the beep (Leger) test! I'm at the 95'th percentile. I managed to get my heart rate over 200 for 4 entire minutes at the end, with a max of 212. Also did amazing at the plate tapping. I'm about average/slightly above average for everything else. Now we need to interpret these results to find a sport that's good for us. I'm not tall enough for basketball and I can't think of anything else that requires good endurance and arm speed. Boxing? + Show Spoiler +I'm afraid masturbation is not a sport. (I'm currently doing athletics (200 m sprint), and just started Lacrosse) Haha the beep test! I remember that from my HS PE days!! Funny part was there were like settings for 20m and 25m (maybe not right numbers but you get the point) and the first time they used the 25m settings. Then at the end of the year they used the 25m settings. The best score from beginning of semester was like low 40 something and at the end it was like 120 something. Best part is the teacher wasn't AT ALL suspicious of the results and was super happy that we had all improved so much lol! Training is back to going okay, but had a shitty two weeks before this with colds/random events only enabling me to run like 20 miles over the course of these last two. I'm going to really try to crack down on my eating now and start eating really clean...gotta stop this silly semi-binge eating crap (even if my mileage somewhat allows me to support it).
I was on vacation for basically the last 2 weeks and the last 2 days of trying to get back into it have been murder. So much spring break junk food to burn through to reopen my arteries D:
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+ Show Spoiler +Well it's been a couple weeks since I've started running again, my very first post in this thread was on February on the 8th I think. I just wanted to give an update on my progress.
Weeks 1&2 - 3 mile runs every other day
Weeks 3&4 - Skipped out a few running sessions ;_; I did like 2 runs at the beginning and end of each week
Week 5 - Got back on track with a run every other day. Increased the pace for the first time. Attempted an extra run.
By the 3rd week there was a very very notable difference in my endurance. Even though I didn't run faster at all I felt much more comfortable. To give you guys a clue on just how slow I was going I initially ran (maybe it'd be better described as walking lol) at 51 minutes on my first run. My following sessions right after were actually slower ;_; sometimes even taking an hour... What happens is I just tap out and walk for a few minutes by the 2nd mile. My time actually continued to hover around that range until last week when I finally upped my pace lol. So when I used to take 18 - 20 min per mile, I actually ran it to 14 (literally like 2 Days ago)!!!! Of course when I was done with that first mile I was really drained so I've only managed to do 2 miles going at that pace before calling it quits.
I don't know if I should be happy about going at a slow pace but my recent improvement has really motivated me. Yeah I couldn't push for the 3rd mile but pushing myself at that pace was very new to me... Going in to the second mile I felt like my body was literally screaming at me to stop, but I just did my best to not think about stopping or slowing down. The day after I tried running again, so instead of a run every other day, I tried 2 in a row...
I failed hard. I tried the same pace again and only managed to eek out a mile before just .. quitting...
At that time by panting I meant that I was going at a higher heart rate and breathing heavily from just running. But THIS time I'm afraid that I'm panting in a way that you were advising against. I was panting and staggering after completing my mile last night, it didn't feel good at all. I felt great the night before because I had never gotten 14 min for a mile in my entire life until then, and yeah I was ridiculously tired and out of breath. Not only that but I also had a really bad burning sensation in my stomach last night after that run. It wouldn't go away until I ate a grapefruit and gulped down some water, only to get it again in the morning and clearing out my bowels with some awful diarrhea.
I guess it's still too early to start increasing the pace? I'm like painfully aware of how slow and unfit I am... But now I feel even more motivated to try to get better. If anything I guess I should just work on building my foundations and making it as solid as I can right?
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On March 14 2012 05:41 Snuggles wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Well it's been a couple weeks since I've started running again, my very first post in this thread was on February on the 8th I think. I just wanted to give an update on my progress.
Weeks 1&2 - 3 mile runs every other day
Weeks 3&4 - Skipped out a few running sessions ;_; I did like 2 runs at the beginning and end of each week
Week 5 - Got back on track with a run every other day. Increased the pace for the first time. Attempted an extra run.
By the 3rd week there was a very very notable difference in my endurance. Even though I didn't run faster at all I felt much more comfortable. To give you guys a clue on just how slow I was going I initially ran (maybe it'd be better described as walking lol) at 51 minutes on my first run. My following sessions right after were actually slower ;_; sometimes even taking an hour... What happens is I just tap out and walk for a few minutes by the 2nd mile. My time actually continued to hover around that range until last week when I finally upped my pace lol. So when I used to take 18 - 20 min per mile, I actually ran it to 14 (literally like 2 Days ago)!!!! Of course when I was done with that first mile I was really drained so I've only managed to do 2 miles going at that pace before calling it quits.
I don't know if I should be happy about going at a slow pace but my recent improvement has really motivated me. Yeah I couldn't push for the 3rd mile but pushing myself at that pace was very new to me... Going in to the second mile I felt like my body was literally screaming at me to stop, but I just did my best to not think about stopping or slowing down. The day after I tried running again, so instead of a run every other day, I tried 2 in a row...
I failed hard. I tried the same pace again and only managed to eek out a mile before just .. quitting... And you know what in the middle of typing out this post I just read a response from L_Master following my last post here about my panting ;_; At that time by panting I meant that I was going at a higher heart rate and breathing heavily from just running. But THIS time I'm afraid that I'm panting in a way that you were advising against. I was panting and staggering after completing my mile last night, it didn't feel good at all. I felt great the night before because I had never gotten 14 min for a mile in my entire life until then, and yeah I was ridiculously tired and out of breath. Not only that but I also had a really bad burning sensation in my stomach last night after that run. It wouldn't go away until I ate a grapefruit and gulped down some water, only to get it again in the morning and clearing out my bowels with some awful diarrhea. I guess it's still too early to start increasing the pace? I'm like painfully aware of how slow and unfit I am... But now I feel even more motivated to try to get better. If anything I guess I should just work on building my foundations and making it as solid as I can right?
Don't worry about your speed. Everyone's been a slow runner at some point in their life unless they really worked at it. I'd say keep working on that endurance. In a drastic oversimplification of running, I'd break it down to this: if your heart is giving up before your body, work on endurance. If your heart lasts longer than your muscles, focus on strength and speed. And always make sure you're training with good form :D
A burning sensation in your stomach? I haven't heard of that coming from running before. :o I don't mean to prod, but what're your eating habits like? Are you eating healthy? I honestly can't imagine why your stomach was hurting like that unless you got the running shits or whatever it's called.
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On March 14 2012 06:12 dudeman001 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 05:41 Snuggles wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Well it's been a couple weeks since I've started running again, my very first post in this thread was on February on the 8th I think. I just wanted to give an update on my progress.
Weeks 1&2 - 3 mile runs every other day
Weeks 3&4 - Skipped out a few running sessions ;_; I did like 2 runs at the beginning and end of each week
Week 5 - Got back on track with a run every other day. Increased the pace for the first time. Attempted an extra run.
By the 3rd week there was a very very notable difference in my endurance. Even though I didn't run faster at all I felt much more comfortable. To give you guys a clue on just how slow I was going I initially ran (maybe it'd be better described as walking lol) at 51 minutes on my first run. My following sessions right after were actually slower ;_; sometimes even taking an hour... What happens is I just tap out and walk for a few minutes by the 2nd mile. My time actually continued to hover around that range until last week when I finally upped my pace lol. So when I used to take 18 - 20 min per mile, I actually ran it to 14 (literally like 2 Days ago)!!!! Of course when I was done with that first mile I was really drained so I've only managed to do 2 miles going at that pace before calling it quits.
I don't know if I should be happy about going at a slow pace but my recent improvement has really motivated me. Yeah I couldn't push for the 3rd mile but pushing myself at that pace was very new to me... Going in to the second mile I felt like my body was literally screaming at me to stop, but I just did my best to not think about stopping or slowing down. The day after I tried running again, so instead of a run every other day, I tried 2 in a row...
I failed hard. I tried the same pace again and only managed to eek out a mile before just .. quitting... And you know what in the middle of typing out this post I just read a response from L_Master following my last post here about my panting ;_; At that time by panting I meant that I was going at a higher heart rate and breathing heavily from just running. But THIS time I'm afraid that I'm panting in a way that you were advising against. I was panting and staggering after completing my mile last night, it didn't feel good at all. I felt great the night before because I had never gotten 14 min for a mile in my entire life until then, and yeah I was ridiculously tired and out of breath. Not only that but I also had a really bad burning sensation in my stomach last night after that run. It wouldn't go away until I ate a grapefruit and gulped down some water, only to get it again in the morning and clearing out my bowels with some awful diarrhea. I guess it's still too early to start increasing the pace? I'm like painfully aware of how slow and unfit I am... But now I feel even more motivated to try to get better. If anything I guess I should just work on building my foundations and making it as solid as I can right? Don't worry about your speed. Everyone's been a slow runner at some point in their life unless they really worked at it. I'd say keep working on that endurance. In a drastic oversimplification of running, I'd break it down to this: if your heart is giving up before your body, work on endurance. If your heart lasts longer than your muscles, focus on strength and speed. And always make sure you're training with good form :D A burning sensation in your stomach? I haven't heard of that coming from running before. :o I don't mean to prod, but what're your eating habits like? Are you eating healthy? I honestly can't imagine why your stomach was hurting like that unless you got the running shits or whatever it's called.
Well my diet for that day was a little out of the ordinary, but I tend to eat a good amount veggies and fish, occasionally meat. I stay away from anything too oily because it makes my cheeks feel fat (idk why). This is the very first time I've ever had that burning sensation.
I typically eat 1-2 eggs for breakfast, or no breakfast and have some fruits to fill myself up as the day goes on + that plus coffee. Lunch is usually a sandwich either with an egg or meat and LOTS of lettuce because I love lettuce. Then if I'm still hungry right after then I get myself that Chobani yogurt and I'm completely content until dinner. For dinner I don't really have any set in stone meal. Sometimes I have fish stew with kim chi and one bowl of rice, other times it could be salad and 3 boiled eggs and either chicken or tuna. All in all I counted it up to be around 1600 calories, but in reality it may be 1700 or 1800. I heard I'm suppose to eat more but right now I'm pretty comfortable with what I'm eating. Keep in mind that I'm also like 5'5" or 5'6" on a good day hehe.
That particular day I went out to eat for lunch and had a turkey sandwich which was pretty big. Later that night I got lazy and took out some lettuce, washed em and threw them into a bowl and then cooked a grounded beef patty with some cheese. Ate it all as it was. I don't know, maybe the turkey was a little off or something. I asked one of my friends and they said it could have been because I didn't drink enough water after dinner. It could have also simply been just something bad in my food, because dude the diarrhea the following morning was awful to the point of making me feel nauseous.
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On March 14 2012 06:32 Snuggles wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 06:12 dudeman001 wrote:On March 14 2012 05:41 Snuggles wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Well it's been a couple weeks since I've started running again, my very first post in this thread was on February on the 8th I think. I just wanted to give an update on my progress.
Weeks 1&2 - 3 mile runs every other day
Weeks 3&4 - Skipped out a few running sessions ;_; I did like 2 runs at the beginning and end of each week
Week 5 - Got back on track with a run every other day. Increased the pace for the first time. Attempted an extra run.
By the 3rd week there was a very very notable difference in my endurance. Even though I didn't run faster at all I felt much more comfortable. To give you guys a clue on just how slow I was going I initially ran (maybe it'd be better described as walking lol) at 51 minutes on my first run. My following sessions right after were actually slower ;_; sometimes even taking an hour... What happens is I just tap out and walk for a few minutes by the 2nd mile. My time actually continued to hover around that range until last week when I finally upped my pace lol. So when I used to take 18 - 20 min per mile, I actually ran it to 14 (literally like 2 Days ago)!!!! Of course when I was done with that first mile I was really drained so I've only managed to do 2 miles going at that pace before calling it quits.
I don't know if I should be happy about going at a slow pace but my recent improvement has really motivated me. Yeah I couldn't push for the 3rd mile but pushing myself at that pace was very new to me... Going in to the second mile I felt like my body was literally screaming at me to stop, but I just did my best to not think about stopping or slowing down. The day after I tried running again, so instead of a run every other day, I tried 2 in a row...
I failed hard. I tried the same pace again and only managed to eek out a mile before just .. quitting... And you know what in the middle of typing out this post I just read a response from L_Master following my last post here about my panting ;_; At that time by panting I meant that I was going at a higher heart rate and breathing heavily from just running. But THIS time I'm afraid that I'm panting in a way that you were advising against. I was panting and staggering after completing my mile last night, it didn't feel good at all. I felt great the night before because I had never gotten 14 min for a mile in my entire life until then, and yeah I was ridiculously tired and out of breath. Not only that but I also had a really bad burning sensation in my stomach last night after that run. It wouldn't go away until I ate a grapefruit and gulped down some water, only to get it again in the morning and clearing out my bowels with some awful diarrhea. I guess it's still too early to start increasing the pace? I'm like painfully aware of how slow and unfit I am... But now I feel even more motivated to try to get better. If anything I guess I should just work on building my foundations and making it as solid as I can right? Don't worry about your speed. Everyone's been a slow runner at some point in their life unless they really worked at it. I'd say keep working on that endurance. In a drastic oversimplification of running, I'd break it down to this: if your heart is giving up before your body, work on endurance. If your heart lasts longer than your muscles, focus on strength and speed. And always make sure you're training with good form :D A burning sensation in your stomach? I haven't heard of that coming from running before. :o I don't mean to prod, but what're your eating habits like? Are you eating healthy? I honestly can't imagine why your stomach was hurting like that unless you got the running shits or whatever it's called. Well my diet for that day was a little out of the ordinary, but I tend to eat a good amount veggies and fish, occasionally meat. I stay away from anything too oily because it makes my cheeks feel fat (idk why). This is the very first time I've ever had that burning sensation. I typically eat 1-2 eggs for breakfast, or no breakfast and have some fruits to fill myself up as the day goes on + that plus coffee. Lunch is usually a sandwich either with an egg or meat and LOTS of lettuce because I love lettuce. Then if I'm still hungry right after then I get myself that Chobani yogurt and I'm completely content until dinner. For dinner I don't really have any set in stone meal. Sometimes I have fish stew with kim chi and one bowl of rice, other times it could be salad and 3 boiled eggs and either chicken or tuna. All in all I counted it up to be around 1600 calories, but in reality it may be 1700 or 1800. I heard I'm suppose to eat more but right now I'm pretty comfortable with what I'm eating. Keep in mind that I'm also like 5'5" or 5'6" on a good day hehe. That particular day I went out to eat for lunch and had a turkey sandwich which was pretty big. Later that night I got lazy and took out some lettuce, washed em and threw them into a bowl and then cooked a grounded beef patty with some cheese. Ate it all as it was. I don't know, maybe the turkey was a little off or something. I asked one of my friends and they said it could have been because I didn't drink enough water after dinner. It could have also simply been just something bad in my food, because dude the diarrhea the following morning was awful to the point of making me feel nauseous.
Hmm I'd put my bet on some seriously bad turkey.  But yeah the rest of your diet looks pretty decent. Make sure you're drinking water consistently throughout the day, it does wonders for running & recovery.
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On March 14 2012 09:13 dudeman001 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 06:32 Snuggles wrote:On March 14 2012 06:12 dudeman001 wrote:On March 14 2012 05:41 Snuggles wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Well it's been a couple weeks since I've started running again, my very first post in this thread was on February on the 8th I think. I just wanted to give an update on my progress.
Weeks 1&2 - 3 mile runs every other day
Weeks 3&4 - Skipped out a few running sessions ;_; I did like 2 runs at the beginning and end of each week
Week 5 - Got back on track with a run every other day. Increased the pace for the first time. Attempted an extra run.
By the 3rd week there was a very very notable difference in my endurance. Even though I didn't run faster at all I felt much more comfortable. To give you guys a clue on just how slow I was going I initially ran (maybe it'd be better described as walking lol) at 51 minutes on my first run. My following sessions right after were actually slower ;_; sometimes even taking an hour... What happens is I just tap out and walk for a few minutes by the 2nd mile. My time actually continued to hover around that range until last week when I finally upped my pace lol. So when I used to take 18 - 20 min per mile, I actually ran it to 14 (literally like 2 Days ago)!!!! Of course when I was done with that first mile I was really drained so I've only managed to do 2 miles going at that pace before calling it quits.
I don't know if I should be happy about going at a slow pace but my recent improvement has really motivated me. Yeah I couldn't push for the 3rd mile but pushing myself at that pace was very new to me... Going in to the second mile I felt like my body was literally screaming at me to stop, but I just did my best to not think about stopping or slowing down. The day after I tried running again, so instead of a run every other day, I tried 2 in a row...
I failed hard. I tried the same pace again and only managed to eek out a mile before just .. quitting... And you know what in the middle of typing out this post I just read a response from L_Master following my last post here about my panting ;_; At that time by panting I meant that I was going at a higher heart rate and breathing heavily from just running. But THIS time I'm afraid that I'm panting in a way that you were advising against. I was panting and staggering after completing my mile last night, it didn't feel good at all. I felt great the night before because I had never gotten 14 min for a mile in my entire life until then, and yeah I was ridiculously tired and out of breath. Not only that but I also had a really bad burning sensation in my stomach last night after that run. It wouldn't go away until I ate a grapefruit and gulped down some water, only to get it again in the morning and clearing out my bowels with some awful diarrhea. I guess it's still too early to start increasing the pace? I'm like painfully aware of how slow and unfit I am... But now I feel even more motivated to try to get better. If anything I guess I should just work on building my foundations and making it as solid as I can right? Don't worry about your speed. Everyone's been a slow runner at some point in their life unless they really worked at it. I'd say keep working on that endurance. In a drastic oversimplification of running, I'd break it down to this: if your heart is giving up before your body, work on endurance. If your heart lasts longer than your muscles, focus on strength and speed. And always make sure you're training with good form :D A burning sensation in your stomach? I haven't heard of that coming from running before. :o I don't mean to prod, but what're your eating habits like? Are you eating healthy? I honestly can't imagine why your stomach was hurting like that unless you got the running shits or whatever it's called. Well my diet for that day was a little out of the ordinary, but I tend to eat a good amount veggies and fish, occasionally meat. I stay away from anything too oily because it makes my cheeks feel fat (idk why). This is the very first time I've ever had that burning sensation. I typically eat 1-2 eggs for breakfast, or no breakfast and have some fruits to fill myself up as the day goes on + that plus coffee. Lunch is usually a sandwich either with an egg or meat and LOTS of lettuce because I love lettuce. Then if I'm still hungry right after then I get myself that Chobani yogurt and I'm completely content until dinner. For dinner I don't really have any set in stone meal. Sometimes I have fish stew with kim chi and one bowl of rice, other times it could be salad and 3 boiled eggs and either chicken or tuna. All in all I counted it up to be around 1600 calories, but in reality it may be 1700 or 1800. I heard I'm suppose to eat more but right now I'm pretty comfortable with what I'm eating. Keep in mind that I'm also like 5'5" or 5'6" on a good day hehe. That particular day I went out to eat for lunch and had a turkey sandwich which was pretty big. Later that night I got lazy and took out some lettuce, washed em and threw them into a bowl and then cooked a grounded beef patty with some cheese. Ate it all as it was. I don't know, maybe the turkey was a little off or something. I asked one of my friends and they said it could have been because I didn't drink enough water after dinner. It could have also simply been just something bad in my food, because dude the diarrhea the following morning was awful to the point of making me feel nauseous. Hmm I'd put my bet on some seriously bad turkey. But yeah the rest of your diet looks pretty decent. Make sure you're drinking water consistently throughout the day, it does wonders for running & recovery.
My God YES! It's really crazy the difference when you stay well hydrated, especially if you maintain that all day. It won't necessarily make you run faster like some miracle potion, but you feel alot better both during and after the run. Helped me tremendously with doubling. When I first started I didn't really hydrate well and always felt "meh" on alot of my doubles, but once I start it was like "Oh, now this is how it should feel!"
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I need to buy some new running shoes and I wanted to get a pair of Vibrams this time, and I wonder which model to get. I run casually, mostly to support weight loss without wrecking my strength training too much (but who am I kidding, my strength training suffers endlessly already, but I will run anyway).
Basically, I do sprint intervalls 1-2x a week and 30-50minute runs 1-2x a week. Is there a big difference in which model I should get? The description on the website is mostly that every pair is extremely comfortable (shocking), but not even the "Sprint" has any indication in its description that it is actually good for sprinting.
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Btw, people keep suggesting that you listen to music while running. I actually find that listening to podcasts is much better FOR ME. I suggest that people look for whatever pushes them to run.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my music. Maybe a different genre for running would suit you better. Try listening to Joe Rogan's podcast while running. It usually get rids of the boredom and feeling of quitting
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On March 14 2012 23:03 MaV_gGSC wrote:
Btw, people keep suggesting that you listen to music while running. I actually find that listening to podcasts is much better FOR ME. I suggest that people look for whatever pushes them to run.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my music. Maybe a different genre for running would suit you better. Try listening to Joe Rogan's podcast while running. It usually get rids of the boredom and feeling of quitting
Maybe I hate fun but I never recommend people run while listening to anything except yourself and your environment. I argue that listening to anything else is distracting you and making you mentally weaker. And it can also be a safety issue if you're around other people or cars.
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On March 14 2012 22:13 Malinor wrote:
I need to buy some new running shoes and I wanted to get a pair of Vibrams this time, and I wonder which model to get. I run casually, mostly to support weight loss without wrecking my strength training too much (but who am I kidding, my strength training suffers endlessly already, but I will run anyway).
Basically, I do sprint intervalls 1-2x a week and 30-50minute runs 1-2x a week. Is there a big difference in which model I should get? The description on the website is mostly that every pair is extremely comfortable (shocking), but not even the "Sprint" has any indication in its description that it is actually good for sprinting.
Sorry, wish I had some experience with the vibrams. Looking through their product list I guess the only thing I can think of is pick a model that won't fall off your foot while running. Do your feet have any fat on them? Maybe something like the sprint or the kso that have an adjustable strap would work as your feet slim down. I dunno this is total speculation.
On March 15 2012 02:30 AirbladeOrange wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 23:03 MaV_gGSC wrote:
Btw, people keep suggesting that you listen to music while running. I actually find that listening to podcasts is much better FOR ME. I suggest that people look for whatever pushes them to run.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my music. Maybe a different genre for running would suit you better. Try listening to Joe Rogan's podcast while running. It usually get rids of the boredom and feeling of quitting Maybe I hate fun but I never recommend people run while listening to anything except yourself and your environment. I argue that listening to anything else is distracting you and making you mentally weaker. And it can also be a safety issue if you're around other people or cars.
I mostly agree with Airblade, but if you enjoy running to music I won't say it's the devil. When you're running it's good to hear your breath and your footsteps so you know how your body is doing, and that's why I stride to go music-free when running. Still, sometimes when the run is an hour or longer some tunes are nice to keep me company. Podcasts and talking are interesting because I find I have to focus on the talking and the exhaustion from running gets largely ignored, which is awesome.
Fuck. In 5 months there's a qualifying marathon for the Boston marathon close to where I live. A SAFE Boston qualifying time is running at 6:17 mile pace.
Fuck.
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On March 15 2012 02:30 AirbladeOrange wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 23:03 MaV_gGSC wrote:
Btw, people keep suggesting that you listen to music while running. I actually find that listening to podcasts is much better FOR ME. I suggest that people look for whatever pushes them to run.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my music. Maybe a different genre for running would suit you better. Try listening to Joe Rogan's podcast while running. It usually get rids of the boredom and feeling of quitting Maybe I hate fun but I never recommend people run while listening to anything except yourself and your environment. I argue that listening to anything else is distracting you and making you mentally weaker. And it can also be a safety issue if you're around other people or cars.
Airblade's response is the one you'll get from the majority of serious runners. By and large, music is a distraction to your running and will keep you from having complete focus on your running.
That said, I personally don't think there is anything wrong with it, especially if your new to running and haven't found that place where you enjoy running for running's sake (some people never do). If your not trying to be a competitive runner and want to use running as a tool to stay "fit", lose weight, eat more food, etc. then I think music/podcast/whatever (maybe not movies though) is fine. Absolutely agree with his comment about safety though, listening to music (especially if it's loud) is a really bad move when your around cars and such.
I personally take a middle ground approach because I am a huge music lover. I bring the music out for recovery/general aerobic runs, but leave it at home for all workout stuff like tempos, intervals, hills, etc. so I can give complete, distracted attention to my running, not to mention it simulates race conditions where you obviously will not have music.
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I usually run with music if I'm doing long distances (45+ minutes) but I always pay attention to traffic (it's on the lowest sound volume possible). It helps keep me distracted from exhaustion, breathing... so I run a bit easier.
I never listen to music when I'm doing intervals, sprints... to keep me focused though.
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On March 15 2012 05:55 dudeman001 wrote:
Fuck. In 5 months there's a qualifying marathon for the Boston marathon close to where I live. A SAFE Boston qualifying time is running at 6:17 mile pace.
Fuck.
6:17 mile pace? Run a mile in 6:17 my god that's insane. When I look at people who can run at that speed all I can picture in my mind is some Greek mythological god haha.
It'd be cool to see what levels of endurance you would need to be able to run at that pace if there is even a way to visualize that on a graph.
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Guys, when i run for a decent amount of time, my lower back starts to hurt. It feels like the muscle is really "pumped." Is this normal?
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