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rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
November 30 2011 21:58 GMT
#13921


Opinions on this video?

Trying to figure out if I should do that kind of squats after all in my upper/lower 4x week program, or just SS style powerlifting squats.
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phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
November 30 2011 22:38 GMT
#13922
On December 01 2011 06:58 rEiGN~ wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrFtWFvJ7VI&feature=related

Opinions on this video?

Trying to figure out if I should do that kind of squats after all in my upper/lower 4x week program, or just SS style powerlifting squats.


Do whatever you're comfortable with/have learned so far, unless you aim to get into olympic lifting in the future. Highbar/Lowbar main difference is the flexibility requirement, and that the lowbar technique allows you to move a bit more weight than highbar does, because of leverage. No reason to pick, unless you're going to compete in the future.

That said, I do Highbar. I just like it better.
rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 23:05:42
November 30 2011 23:03 GMT
#13923
I might add that I train for aesthetics, but I also like to break PRs. However, I'm not very confident about putting my body to massive stress right now (I wouldn't 1RM) because of my past injuries. Constantly finding small things to fix in my squat and deadlift technique though, which makes me feel better. Not to mention proper mobility warmup (lmao) which has had somewhat of a psychological effect as well.
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CwEyeGonE
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Iceland14 Posts
December 01 2011 00:43 GMT
#13924
I was wondering if there is any program that is kind of like Starting Strength, but only for upper body, since I injured myself recently and I won't be able to do any lifting whatsoever using my legs in the next months. Is there anything that any of you guys would recommend?
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
December 01 2011 01:15 GMT
#13925
On December 01 2011 09:43 CwEyeGonE wrote:
I was wondering if there is any program that is kind of like Starting Strength, but only for upper body, since I injured myself recently and I won't be able to do any lifting whatsoever using my legs in the next months. Is there anything that any of you guys would recommend?


As someone who was in the same situation ~6 months ago, I'll say no there is not a similar program for the upper body. SS is full-body, which is what allows you to do three BIG compound exercises per day. If you tried three compound upper body exercises on one day (say in a push/pull designation) you're only going to end up incredibly sore, and pushin around mediocre weights.

What I did at that time, was take a break and work on my weak points. I did a LOT of benching, because with my long arms and light build that's always something that I am stalling on. I set up the exercises almost like a 5/3/1 - I would Bench heavy, then do assistance tricep extentions, chest flies, and dumbbell bench for fewer sets but higher reps (and lighter weight). Helped out a bit. Next time I came to the gym I would focus on chinups (or any vertical pulling motion) then overhead press (or any vertical push) and then rows (any horizontal pull) just to keep enough variety in the routine. It was fun, and it helped me with some of my weak spots, but I didn't see the overall progress that I wanted.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
December 01 2011 01:20 GMT
#13926
reposting thing from the nutrition thread, cause it seems like nobody fucking reads it...

On December 01 2011 05:01 funkie wrote:
I think I have a cold again.

I'm in the States and I'm taking vitD.

What is the acceptable amount to bomb myself with to get out of this cold fast?

I started yesterday and took 3000UI, today I took 4000UI.

I bought a bottle of 250softgels of 5000UI each. :D??

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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20157 Posts
December 01 2011 01:24 GMT
#13927
i take 30k a day to bomb colds :D
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 01 2011 02:15 GMT
#13928
I take 20-30k as well.

For the pharmaceutical dose it's 150 lbs person takes 50k/day over 3 days.. or [(weight in kg *2 ) / 3] *1000 everyday for 3 days
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Raidern
Profile Joined February 2005
Brazil3811 Posts
December 01 2011 02:34 GMT
#13929
Hey guys, I have a friend who had a knee surgery a while back. Don't remember how long, but I guess it's over a year now. IIRC, he torn a ligament. He's kinda chubby now and has been complaining about his weight and I mentioned working out but didn't push for it. Do you think it would be a problem for him to squat and deadlift?
For the Swarm!
rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
December 01 2011 02:49 GMT
#13930
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/the_thirdworld_squat

It's crazy how our office jobs and sitting hours and hours per day is ruining our collective health. Something as natural and primitive as squat just doesn't seem to happen outside gym anymore.
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DoubleZee
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada556 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 02:56:02
December 01 2011 02:55 GMT
#13931
Last week I saw a 50+ year old lady from India do the lowest squat I've ever seen like it was nothing. It really is just a natural thing for people to do who don't grow up sitting in chairs all the time.Even after doing SS for a few months I can't balance myself ATG on my heels without a barbell on my back.
Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 01 2011 04:05 GMT
#13932
On December 01 2011 11:34 Raidern wrote:
Hey guys, I have a friend who had a knee surgery a while back. Don't remember how long, but I guess it's over a year now. IIRC, he torn a ligament. He's kinda chubby now and has been complaining about his weight and I mentioned working out but didn't push for it. Do you think it would be a problem for him to squat and deadlift?


He should be able to do it.... but he may have to work at it depending on how good his rehab was
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
December 01 2011 04:14 GMT
#13933
On December 01 2011 10:24 decafchicken wrote:
i take 30k a day to bomb colds :D


I take 30k for three days, then return to my usual dose (10k every day or every other.) Haven't been sick longer than three days since I started taking Vit D over a year ago - and the times I get sick at all usually corresponds to my sleeping poorly, eating poorly, or not taking the Vit D for more than a week (vacations, etc). It's pretty baller stuff.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
December 01 2011 05:09 GMT
#13934
http://eastcoastgold.org/events/events.php

Livewebcast of american open dec 2-4

I lift dec 2 around 12or 1pm eastern time
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
December 01 2011 07:42 GMT
#13935
gl dimsum!
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CwEyeGonE
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Iceland14 Posts
December 01 2011 12:08 GMT
#13936
On December 01 2011 10:15 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 09:43 CwEyeGonE wrote:
I was wondering if there is any program that is kind of like Starting Strength, but only for upper body, since I injured myself recently and I won't be able to do any lifting whatsoever using my legs in the next months. Is there anything that any of you guys would recommend?


As someone who was in the same situation ~6 months ago, I'll say no there is not a similar program for the upper body. SS is full-body, which is what allows you to do three BIG compound exercises per day. If you tried three compound upper body exercises on one day (say in a push/pull designation) you're only going to end up incredibly sore, and pushin around mediocre weights.

What I did at that time, was take a break and work on my weak points. I did a LOT of benching, because with my long arms and light build that's always something that I am stalling on. I set up the exercises almost like a 5/3/1 - I would Bench heavy, then do assistance tricep extentions, chest flies, and dumbbell bench for fewer sets but higher reps (and lighter weight). Helped out a bit. Next time I came to the gym I would focus on chinups (or any vertical pulling motion) then overhead press (or any vertical push) and then rows (any horizontal pull) just to keep enough variety in the routine. It was fun, and it helped me with some of my weak spots, but I didn't see the overall progress that I wanted.


Thank you very much, i'll try and do some of what you've said here, I kind of figured I wouldn't be seeing the same gains, so that's fine.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4734 Posts
December 01 2011 13:47 GMT
#13937
On December 01 2011 11:49 rEiGN~ wrote:
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/the_thirdworld_squat

It's crazy how our office jobs and sitting hours and hours per day is ruining our collective health. Something as natural and primitive as squat just doesn't seem to happen outside gym anymore.


Since I first saw this "stretch" (the mentioned 3-world-squat) on some stretching site a few months back, I instantly thought that this must be the best movement to train a real squat, and since then I often stretch like this in the gym and sometimes at home. My flexibility has improved extremely since then, but I still have some trouble without my weightlifting shoes. The article just inspired me to do it even more often. It is really a great and natural movement. I can squat down deep like this fairly well, but my spine is not yet in a good position then (being a big guy, my gut is kind of in the way^^) and without my hands stretched out to balance my weight, I cannot hold it for long.
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 13:54:56
December 01 2011 13:53 GMT
#13938
another good one is getting a raised bar (inch or 2)
and squatting whilst standing on the bar
except the bar is underneath your toes rather than your heels (so it does the opposite of squat shoes)
will rape the shit out of your legs
(or i guess 3rd-world squat or normal squat with raised toes is a better way of saying it)
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glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
December 01 2011 18:08 GMT
#13939
On December 01 2011 10:20 funkie wrote:
reposting thing from the nutrition thread, cause it seems like nobody fucking reads it...

Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 05:01 funkie wrote:
I think I have a cold again.

I'm in the States and I'm taking vitD.

What is the acceptable amount to bomb myself with to get out of this cold fast?

I started yesterday and took 3000UI, today I took 4000UI.

I bought a bottle of 250softgels of 5000UI each. :D??




Wasn't november official TLHF picture month? It's December now, so we have to wait a whole year again, what a shame!
Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right. - Henry Ford
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 18:51:27
December 01 2011 18:50 GMT
#13940
On December 01 2011 11:49 rEiGN~ wrote:
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/the_thirdworld_squat

It's crazy how our office jobs and sitting hours and hours per day is ruining our collective health. Something as natural and primitive as squat just doesn't seem to happen outside gym anymore.


I suppose in some combination of martial arts, gardening and proper squatting I've retained the ability to do these.

On December 02 2011 03:08 glurio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 10:20 funkie wrote:
reposting thing from the nutrition thread, cause it seems like nobody fucking reads it...

On December 01 2011 05:01 funkie wrote:
I think I have a cold again.

I'm in the States and I'm taking vitD.

What is the acceptable amount to bomb myself with to get out of this cold fast?

I started yesterday and took 3000UI, today I took 4000UI.

I bought a bottle of 250softgels of 5000UI each. :D??




Wasn't november official TLHF picture month? It's December now, so we have to wait a whole year again, what a shame!

I vote we make December official picture month, or maybe video month :p
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