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vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
February 01 2011 00:15 GMT
#1081
On February 01 2011 08:34 Donkeys wrote:
form check plz?

squat:
+ Show Spoiler +


deadlift (rofl idk why this video got sped up to 2x normal speed when i uploaded it):

+ Show Spoiler +



Squat looks ok, assuming your stance is fine. The bar is moving correctly, so I'm pretty sure all is well there. Could go slightly deeper I think- it might just be the camera but it doesn't look like the top of your thighs are completely parallel.

Find another angle for deadlifts, the weights are blocking everything
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
February 01 2011 01:30 GMT
#1082
Boom Roasted. Just increased my total by 15kg.
Snatched 100kg like its my job, decided to go for 105. missed it twice then got it right in the slot and stood right up with it. ->
Cleaned 110 and 120 super easy, so i go for 125, as seen here (friend recorded it portrait, anyone know how to fix it?),
+ Show Spoiler +

After this i thought about moving on or trying 127.5 kg...but 130 just looked too sexy and i've cleaned it before. Pulled it, squatted it, then thought "there's no way i can get this" and then got it up most of the way, then beast mode locked it out. Pow Pow.
Only squatted 405 T_T legs too tired to go any higher. Oh well 2xbw, was tired as fuck. Then again i dont think i've ever done over 415 ass to grass, even though i've done 445 parallel.

On February 01 2011 09:09 RowdierBob wrote:
Got through 97.5kg squats yesterday. Finally almost back to 100.

My form feels better since I did a reset. My DL isn't feel great, but I'll keep plugging away at it.

Question regarding powercleans: is it necessary to do the little jump? I don't seem to jump and when I try it feels really retarded. Thanks!


Its cool to get in the air enough to pop out your feet into a more comfortable squat position but do NOT try to jump.

how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1259 Posts
February 01 2011 01:38 GMT
#1083
Just reading the Paleo diet thingo from the OP - I wanted to search this thread for opinions but for some reason we don't have the "All" button here...

What is the general consensus on the diet? Any good?
Former SC2 commentator. youtube.com/duckvillelol
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
February 01 2011 01:43 GMT
#1084
On February 01 2011 10:38 Duckvillelol wrote:
Just reading the Paleo diet thingo from the OP - I wanted to search this thread for opinions but for some reason we don't have the "All" button here...

What is the general consensus on the diet? Any good?

You can look at the previous page lol.

The general consensus is it's the bee's knees. Might not be for everyone. I'm on a loose paleo (as much as my budget allows me) and i love it.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1259 Posts
February 01 2011 02:01 GMT
#1085
On February 01 2011 10:43 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 10:38 Duckvillelol wrote:
Just reading the Paleo diet thingo from the OP - I wanted to search this thread for opinions but for some reason we don't have the "All" button here...

What is the general consensus on the diet? Any good?

You can look at the previous page lol.

The general consensus is it's the bee's knees. Might not be for everyone. I'm on a loose paleo (as much as my budget allows me) and i love it.


Yeah, gonna give it a shot - dunno how I'll fare without bread though, I love my coffee/sammiches for lunch

What's the general idea for lunch with the diet?

Hopefully the supermarket near me has everything.
Former SC2 commentator. youtube.com/duckvillelol
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
February 01 2011 02:04 GMT
#1086
On February 01 2011 11:01 Duckvillelol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 10:43 decafchicken wrote:
On February 01 2011 10:38 Duckvillelol wrote:
Just reading the Paleo diet thingo from the OP - I wanted to search this thread for opinions but for some reason we don't have the "All" button here...

What is the general consensus on the diet? Any good?

You can look at the previous page lol.

The general consensus is it's the bee's knees. Might not be for everyone. I'm on a loose paleo (as much as my budget allows me) and i love it.


Yeah, gonna give it a shot - dunno how I'll fare without bread though, I love my coffee/sammiches for lunch

What's the general idea for lunch with the diet?

Hopefully the supermarket near me has everything.


I still drink my coffee. Beginning of the school year i just said "fuck sandwiches" and havent had a piece of bread since. don't miss it too much either. I like to have either tuna or chicken breast and a salad for lunch
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
February 01 2011 02:11 GMT
#1087
My squat Stall at 107 . Reset or try again?
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1259 Posts
February 01 2011 02:27 GMT
#1088
On February 01 2011 11:04 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 11:01 Duckvillelol wrote:
On February 01 2011 10:43 decafchicken wrote:
On February 01 2011 10:38 Duckvillelol wrote:
Just reading the Paleo diet thingo from the OP - I wanted to search this thread for opinions but for some reason we don't have the "All" button here...

What is the general consensus on the diet? Any good?

You can look at the previous page lol.

The general consensus is it's the bee's knees. Might not be for everyone. I'm on a loose paleo (as much as my budget allows me) and i love it.


Yeah, gonna give it a shot - dunno how I'll fare without bread though, I love my coffee/sammiches for lunch

What's the general idea for lunch with the diet?

Hopefully the supermarket near me has everything.


I still drink my coffee. Beginning of the school year i just said "fuck sandwiches" and havent had a piece of bread since. don't miss it too much either. I like to have either tuna or chicken breast and a salad for lunch


So just chuck some meat + salad together and have that for lunch and that's all good?

Sounds simple I suppose

Something that's also bothering me; would crumbing fish/chicken be out of whack with the Paleo?
Former SC2 commentator. youtube.com/duckvillelol
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
February 01 2011 02:53 GMT
#1089
I'm on a loose paleo as well, and it's not that bad. I basically stopped eating rice (I'm Asian and this wasn't even that hard), bread and pasta (neither of which I have too often).

I still drink milk and eat dairy, I just don't give a shit.

Sometimes I eat a little bit of carbs on purpose just to jolt my workout.

Actually, I wouldn't call my diet "paleo", it's more like a general low carb diet minus the legumes...
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-01 04:22:29
February 01 2011 04:19 GMT
#1090
First time I tried weighted planks today. Went up to 75kg and I held it for around 15 secs. haha i forgot to try that chinese get up drowsy.



wow nice job decaf!
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
radiaL
Profile Joined August 2003
Andorra2690 Posts
February 01 2011 04:48 GMT
#1091
On February 01 2011 08:07 Ingenol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 07:40 radiaL wrote:
Hey guys!

i've been on paleo for about 4 weeks now and the results are completely absurd amazing. Btw, the lactase supplement pills i posted about before (got both of them) didn't help shit. So substituting MOAR MEAT for milk (makes me sad 'cause i love milk). TWO QUESTIONS:

In the past I used to eat sushi/sashimi at least a meal a day so I didn't supplement fish oil. Now I'm largely chicken-based and eat fish only 2 days a week max, if that. How much of them supplements do I require? In mg or whatever it's in :D

And can i haz nutella? I have no cravings for nonpaleo shit whatsoever, but when i wake up, pre-breakfast, i just eat a banana with nutella. No idea why. Should i stop the nutella ?




lmfao @ guido assault on poor decaf

Here is a good fish oil calculator.

If you're trying paleo, bananas and nutella (both of which have a lot of sugar) are probably not your best choices. As far as fruits go, berries are among the most paleo-compliant.

Lastly, you probably want to start incorporating more fatty meats more often, rather than eating chicken all the time. It's just going to be incredibly difficult to get enough calories in if you're always eating lean meat. Plus, the fat in meat is good for you! Beef tastes infinitely better than chicken as well, at least in this poster's humble opinion.



Many thanks
I can't even have one banana a day? I use them to ripen avocados.
Nutella hit the trash!

For breakfast I usually poach 3 eggs with 3 slices of wiltshire bacon (Y U SO TASTY) and an avocado, then nearly always have ~2 chicken breasts with either yams or green beans for lunch, and ~2 fish fillets or same amount of DELICIOUS BEEF also with yams or green beans for dinner. I snack on apples with peanut butter ala decaf throughout the day. And them delicious baby carrots. Plus walnuts/almonds. Tons of water. Green tea. I am not very inventive
How does that all sound?


On February 01 2011 08:20 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 07:40 radiaL wrote:
Hey guys!

i've been on paleo for about 4 weeks now and the results are completely absurd amazing. Btw, the lactase supplement pills i posted about before (got both of them) didn't help shit. So substituting MOAR MEAT for milk (makes me sad 'cause i love milk). TWO QUESTIONS:

In the past I used to eat sushi/sashimi at least a meal a day so I didn't supplement fish oil. Now I'm largely chicken-based and eat fish only 2 days a week max, if that. How much of them supplements do I require? In mg or whatever it's in :D

And can i haz nutella? I have no cravings for nonpaleo shit whatsoever, but when i wake up, pre-breakfast, i just eat a banana with nutella. No idea why. Should i stop the nutella ?
lmfao @ guido assault on poor decaf

Just curious for the lactose pills how did you actually take them? If I remember one of them had like 1 pill per cup of whole milk. So just curious if you actually followed that? Because if you drank like 5+ cups with 1 pill that might have caused it. At least did you try it with 1 pill and 1 cup and tried to see the effects after? A more costly way is actually buying those milk cartons with the enzymes added into it to help you digest lactose. At least for me I never had any problems drinking those. Only difference is that taste wise its slightly a bit sweeter compared to regular milk and a lot more expensive compared to regular milk. I feel your pain though . Even two cups of milk causes problems after a few hours.



I did tons of trials in every which combination Always got stomach discomfort. Haven't tried the one with added enzymes, kind of got real discouraged after the pills didn't help.


On February 01 2011 08:19 Zafrumi wrote:
a banana after a workout is fine (I like to combine it with a glass of milk. tastes awesome!). but yeah, generally stay away from it



Fucking love bananas. Fuck. Fine.
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vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
February 01 2011 05:16 GMT
#1092
Hmmm here I was thinking any fruit was ok... at least I don't really like bananas. Is it just berries that are recommended for paleo? And what kind of effects would adding other fruits have, if I'm really only eating one or two a day anyways?

Also decided to go with the risto shoes, as the new rogue dowins are $120, and I felt with dimsum's recommendation I should go with the $120+shipping of the ristos since he seems to have the most experience in trying out different shoes I think they're all pretty ugly, but I'm debating the pink ones...
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
February 01 2011 05:28 GMT
#1093
well I never tried the ristos, but I have seen people with them and they like it. They should last longer too.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-01 06:21:06
February 01 2011 06:18 GMT
#1094
On February 01 2011 14:28 AoN.DimSum wrote:
well I never tried the ristos, but I have seen people with them and they like it. They should last longer too.


I <3 my Ristos... best footwear purchase I ever made. I was afraid after measuring my foot that they would be too small, but they fit perfectly. Smug, but not tight... just like lifting shoes should be.

I've got some questions. For everyone's convenience, I'll number them.

1.) How important is it to eat within 30 minutes of a training session? Is it crucial? I like to hit the showers after my workout, and then my bike ride home is about 15 minutes at a moderate pace. This means I generally eat 1-2 hours after I finish training. Would some BCAAs after my workout help extend the time period? Leangains recommends BCAAs immediately following a workout if eating would break the 16 hour fast I know, but I'd like to hear of other options.

2.) From today I want to do cardio six days a week: 3 days of HIIT and 3 days of moderate intensity endurance training. The moderate intensity training will be 15 minutes immediately following my lifting session, and the HIIT will be on non-lifting days. Sound good? Is there anything else I should do at the gym on HIIT days? Is this volume too high? I wish I could do sprints outside but it's just too goddamn cold. My goal with this is to help break through this 15% bodyfat plateau that I've seemed to reach ... everything agrees on this number consistently (including the scale at the gym, my calipers, and the people who have analyzed my picture), and for some reason I'm having trouble getting lower regardless of how little I eat.

3.) What's the verdict on white rice? It helps keep my appetite up, but I'm afraid it's causing inflammation that's leading to acne. My genetics must be terrible because if I eat any non-vegetable carbs at all I get acne on my neck around my lymph nodes and around my mouth.

4.) Today my rotator cuff was hurting on presses ... any cause for concern? What can I do to alleviate this pain? When I did weighted pullups it was fine.

5.) I see a lot of people talking about weighted dips being in SS ... but I've never heard Rippetoe say anything about this. I'm doing 2 sets of 8 non-weighted reps on benching days currently, but I'm thinking about making it 2x5 with weight. Yes or no?

Have fun.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
February 01 2011 06:31 GMT
#1095
u can try getting custom ristos :D put teamliquid on your shoe. Im gonna wait for the 2012 nikes.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-01 06:47:56
February 01 2011 06:34 GMT
#1096
Ship that nutella this way :D Made from hazelnut and some scrumptious post workout sugar :D (probably not the best but i <3 it, wish i had some) Are bananas bad? i didn't think they were bad T_T
And i have ~1/2 cup of rice a day just to get some cheap calories in --; Usually have 1-2 pounds of meat a day, wal nuts, sweet potatoes, salads, eggs, and milk. Those are pretty much my daily staples.

Played basketball for the first time in years. I suck at it skill wise but i played some good d and knocked anyone over who got in my way. Driving to the hoop i literally ran a kid over. People tried to set picks on me twice. When they realized that meant they were getting knocked out of my way/over via hip drive they stopped trying. Who said basketball can't be a contact sport? Came really close to dunking, cant QUITE get that ball over the rim New found vertical rise is great for blocking shots and grabbing boards and boxing out is ez pz now. Conditioning was surprisingly good considering i havent done any "cardio" really outside of oly lifting and occasional rugby practice.

On February 01 2011 13:19 AoN.DimSum wrote:
First time I tried weighted planks today. Went up to 75kg and I held it for around 15 secs. haha i forgot to try that chinese get up drowsy.



wow nice job decaf!


wait wut. you did planks with 75kg on your back? jesus christ your core must be built from cement.

edit: like 1/4 of the skin on top of my head starting where i took a knee to the eye and heading towards the crown of my head is still numb. is this something worth getting checked out...?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 01 2011 07:15 GMT
#1097
On February 01 2011 13:19 AoN.DimSum wrote:
First time I tried weighted planks today. Went up to 75kg and I held it for around 15 secs. haha i forgot to try that chinese get up drowsy.



what do you just put plates on your back? that type of plank?
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 01 2011 08:37 GMT
#1098
On February 01 2011 04:02 Drowsy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 08:38 AoN.DimSum wrote:
. Anyone have suggestions for cool/hard core and bodyweight exercises for after my workouts?




(not just suggesting it because your azn... ok well maybe a little bit)


My greatest goal in life for years was to be able to do these, ever since playing the Mortal Kombat games. I was so stoked when I finally could.
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Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-01 08:55:36
February 01 2011 08:52 GMT
#1099
@decaf video: get windows live movie maker and rotate the image. ezpez
also good job on the new PR's. i found that setting personal records is mostly about just having the courage to try and not think "no way I can lift that"! at least for me, but that might be because I'm not near my max yet, who knows
also, I'd recommend you get your head checked out if the condition persists (i.e. doesnt get better) in the next couple of days

@banana/fruit issue: quote from robbwolf.com:
Fruit.
Limit fruit to 1 serving per day if fat loss is your goal. A serving is not a whole watermelon. If you want to screw things up and not make progress, eat all the fruit you want, it’s your nickel, ride the ride as you like. In order of preference: Berries, melons, citrus, apples, pears. Bananas, papayas and mangoes are great for athletes post workout but dodgy for folks who want to lose weight.

so yeah, bananas (and nutella as well) are great post workout, but I would not eat too much of it throughout the day. really depends on what you want to achieve I guess.

@dips: rippetoe mentions them in the "useful assistance exercise" section of SS. they are among the best assistance exercises because they work more or less the whole body. so dont be afraid to crank out the occasional dip session. just dont complain if you start stalling on your bench because your pecs dont get to relax
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
February 01 2011 10:12 GMT
#1100
On February 01 2011 15:18 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:

I've got some questions. For everyone's convenience, I'll number them.

1.) How important is it to eat within 30 minutes of a training session? Is it crucial? I like to hit the showers after my workout, and then my bike ride home is about 15 minutes at a moderate pace. This means I generally eat 1-2 hours after I finish training. Would some BCAAs after my workout help extend the time period? Leangains recommends BCAAs immediately following a workout if eating would break the 16 hour fast I know, but I'd like to hear of other options.

2.) From today I want to do cardio six days a week: 3 days of HIIT and 3 days of moderate intensity endurance training. The moderate intensity training will be 15 minutes immediately following my lifting session, and the HIIT will be on non-lifting days. Sound good? Is there anything else I should do at the gym on HIIT days? Is this volume too high? I wish I could do sprints outside but it's just too goddamn cold. My goal with this is to help break through this 15% bodyfat plateau that I've seemed to reach ... everything agrees on this number consistently (including the scale at the gym, my calipers, and the people who have analyzed my picture), and for some reason I'm having trouble getting lower regardless of how little I eat.

5.) I see a lot of people talking about weighted dips being in SS ... but I've never heard Rippetoe say anything about this. I'm doing 2 sets of 8 non-weighted reps on benching days currently, but I'm thinking about making it 2x5 with weight. Yes or no?
Have fun.


My take on some of your questions.
1) I wouldn't worry about eating after training as long as it's within 2-3 hours and you were not on an empty stomach. If you did your training fasted, I'd opt to eat sooner than that if possible, and if not BCAA's until you can are your friend.

2) 6 days of cardio a week (guessing in addition to 2-3 days of strength?) is way too excessive. Especially the HIIT is gonna gimp your legs for squats and maybe deadlift, if not all your other lifts due to lack of recovery. All you need is some light cardio on your offdays and then you need to sort your diet out. It's all about calories and your macro nutrient breakdown. What are you eating on your diet days? If you can outline the average/ what you'd normally eat on such a day, I think people could help you pinpoint the problem.

5) I can't comment on weighted dips being in SS or not, but if you've been doing 2x8 and you keep doing 2x8... well, do you expect progress from doing the same thing over and over? My recommendation is to start with weighted dips for sure, try 3 sets of 5 reps with +5kg and then add +1.25kg every week like you would with the other SS lifts.

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