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Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 22:16:51
June 28 2011 22:13 GMT
#7941
Alright time to get my workout going again.. stopped around 3 years ago so i guess its time to get going again

5'9 and about 140-145lbs (174cm and 65kg)

used to compete at a national level in weightlifting when i was 17-18 so i think i will improve pretty fast

current form (and some guessing): Last time i benched i did 80kg(180lbs) pretty convincingly, squatted 90kg(200lbs) and deadlifted 140kg(300lbs)

compared to when i was 17 when i did 100kg in bench, 120kg in squat and 170kg in deadlift so i guess its some ways to go, gonna have to change my diet as well ><
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 22:26:49
June 28 2011 22:24 GMT
#7942
Day1 of Texas Method today, after resting last week and only having one lighter gym workout. Started nice and easy (want to start doing HIIT regularly, so getting used to the higher volume is the first priority)

Squat: 147,5kg 5-5-5-5-5 (80% of 5RM)
OH-Press: 62,5kg 5-5-5-5-5 (80% of 5RM)
Deadlift: 170kg x 5 (90% of 5RM)

Pretty easy, besides that nothing is really easy when it is 35° (95° for you yankees) outisde. I hate heat, I need to find a job somewhere in scandinavia. Next week is gonna be 85%/95% of 5RM.
I thought about doing advanced novice first, but it's a) not enough Power Cleans for me and b) the high amount of Chin-ups/Pull-ups is gonna be to hard on my shoulder.

@sjarl: I wanna make love to your calves
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
June 28 2011 22:35 GMT
#7943
On June 29 2011 07:13 Pulimuli wrote:
Alright time to get my workout going again.. stopped around 3 years ago so i guess its time to get going again

5'9 and about 140-145lbs (174cm and 65kg)

used to compete at a national level in weightlifting when i was 17-18 so i think i will improve pretty fast

current form (and some guessing): Last time i benched i did 80kg(180lbs) pretty convincingly, squatted 90kg(200lbs) and deadlifted 140kg(300lbs)

compared to when i was 17 when i did 100kg in bench, 120kg in squat and 170kg in deadlift so i guess its some ways to go, gonna have to change my diet as well ><



what were your lifts when u competed?
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4748 Posts
June 28 2011 22:47 GMT
#7944
I need some advice. The biggest problem I have with my lifts is my forward lean while squatting. I am just horrible at keeping the weight on my heels. Often when I try really hard, I lean back too much and have to correct my position (since my upper body gets too vertical) which results in finishing the rep on my toes.
I have more problems with lighter weights, the reps tend to be better overall on max effort sets.

I wanted to buy some weightlifting shoes. I figured the elevated heels will only help me (lifted in running shoes last week, which is the same principle and I kinda liked it). But it will take a while until I get more serious with the olympic lifts. So does it make sense to do back quats with weight lifting shoes or are flat shoes somewhat superior? Can you deadlift well in those shoes? Is it the wrong approach to correct my balancing-problems by buying new shoes?

Any advice (especially from our olympic lifters) would be appreciated.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
June 28 2011 22:54 GMT
#7945
post a video! I would have a better understanding if i saw it, and you could prob see it too.

oly shoes can help but it sounds like technique issues. I would work on technique since it might carryover when u get the shoes anyway.

Also oly shoes are fine for any lifts, deadlifts are fine too.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 23:07:35
June 28 2011 23:07 GMT
#7946
Haha, yeah itis obviously a technical issue, but I get your point, things don't get better just because you buy new shoes. Was just my idea of making it easier on myself, since I am a little bit at a loss at what I might be doing wrong. The whole movement feels fine, only that the weight is not always where it is supposed to be. I sometimes feel that I am a little hesitant to point my feet outwards enough so that it feels most comfortable (about 45°). I always have the notion in my head that closer to parallel is probably right and I shouldn't overextend, although I have no idea if this is simply non-sense.

And videos are gonna come soon, give me another couple of weeks.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
June 28 2011 23:12 GMT
#7947
This is inspiring me to get back to the gym and doing stuff. I'll have access to my school's in September, but until them I'll have to find somewhere. Hopefully I can find a place that's relatively cheap to get in.
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 23:47:13
June 28 2011 23:44 GMT
#7948
On June 29 2011 07:47 Malinor wrote:
I need some advice. The biggest problem I have with my lifts is my forward lean while squatting. I am just horrible at keeping the weight on my heels. Often when I try really hard, I lean back too much and have to correct my position (since my upper body gets too vertical) which results in finishing the rep on my toes.
I have more problems with lighter weights, the reps tend to be better overall on max effort sets.

I wanted to buy some weightlifting shoes. I figured the elevated heels will only help me (lifted in running shoes last week, which is the same principle and I kinda liked it). But it will take a while until I get more serious with the olympic lifts. So does it make sense to do back quats with weight lifting shoes or are flat shoes somewhat superior? Can you deadlift well in those shoes? Is it the wrong approach to correct my balancing-problems by buying new shoes?

Any advice (especially from our olympic lifters) would be appreciated.


i got adidas power perfect ii for £90, they are great. i cannot squat in other shoes because of poor flexibility and being a dumbass.

you should
a) hamstring and ankle flexibility/stretches
b) powerlifting shoes are great but dont let them stop you stretching

c) try this: dont have such a verticle back when you try to squat. stoop forwards a little (whilst keeping a flat back) and the weight will be better balanced.

i cant find the right picture (was posted few pages back in an article) but look at this:

http://images.wikia.com/startingstrength/images/2/2d/Parallel_Squat_Position.jpg

you can see his back is not verticle/perpandicular to the floor but is very diaganol, stooped at an angle. (god damn im grasping for scientific words here)

how to do this? get into your normal squat position away from the rack. bend forwards a tiny bit. then reposition the rest of your body (tight back etc) again.

succcccccccch a simple thing and i only just realised it the other day! now the bar is much better balanced for me and i go down far more easily - i am not constantly trying to re-balance myself nto being more "verticle" and thinkng i have shit form


(disclaimer - this is just my opinion, i could be wrong, i only squat 40-50kg atm)
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 28 2011 23:52 GMT
#7949
Bit more on tech:

1. Your feet are shoulder width apart and slightly toed out.
2. Head up, looking slightly above parallel.
3. Don’t look down! Ground is in peripheral vision only!
4. Accentuate the normal arch of the lumbar curve while pulling the excess arch out of the abs.
5. Keep midsection very tight.
6. Send your butt and your back down.
7. Knees track over the line of the foot.
8. Don’t let knees roll over inside of foot.
9. Keep your weight on your heels as much as possible.
10. STAY OFF THE BALLS OF THE FEET!
11. Delay forward travel of the knees as much as possible.
12. Lift your arms up and out as you descend.
13. Elongated torso.
14. Send hands as far away from butt as possible.
15. In profile, the ear does not move forward during the squat, only straight down.
16. Don’t just sink into the squat, pull yourself down with your hip flexors.
17. Don’t let the lumbar curve surrender as you settle into the bottom.
18. Stop when the fold of the hip is below the crease of the knee. Break parallel with your thighs.
19. Squeeeeeeeze glutes and hammies, rise without any leaning forward or shifting of balance.
20. Return on the exact same path as you descended.
21. Use every bit of musculature you can, no part of the body is left uninvolved.
22. On rising, without moving the feet, exert pressure to the outside of your feet as though you were trying to separate the ground beneath you.
23. At the top of the stroke, stand as tall as possible.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
June 28 2011 23:55 GMT
#7950
Love the new Gym. Dark, cool, old. The plates are the solid iron kind, little bit rusty but they work fine. Only half the lights work. Three squat racks, four benches, they -supply- chalk. Place to do dips and pullups... Played metal over the speakers the whole time I was there, whereas my gym at school plays all top 40's pop music, so that was a welcome change. Ran into a few people I know who are home from school and didn't think I'd ever see as well, so that was cool.

My only complaint is that they only have 20 kg bumper plates, so I can't use them for power cleans. I haven't gotten to doing 60kg for my powercleans yet... I'll have to just get a little stronger overall before I start doing them.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
June 29 2011 00:27 GMT
#7951
The stone was 135kg.

Had a short session today, only did squats

Finished with 140kg x 7, which is a +5 reps PR.

Gotta love gains.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-29 00:43:17
June 29 2011 00:36 GMT
#7952
Man, I love the gym. Best things about it:

- being able to eat like a horse
- gains
- girls mirin'
- lifting heavy weights feels good
- being a bro and broing out with all your other bros
- improving yourself in general.

So epic :D. Gz sJarl, to infinity and beyond!

PS my other favourite thing about the gym. Pretending to be Ronnie Coleman.

'GOTTA GET IT DID!!!!!'

AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
June 29 2011 00:50 GMT
#7953
On June 29 2011 07:00 decafchicken wrote:
Sometimes i get knee pain on leg curls/extensions too...i stick to squats and DL


My friend's father is a doctor and said that both forward (quads) and reverse (hams) leg extensions are TERRIBLE for your knees so I've promptly stopped doing them. Other sources seem to agree on this issue.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 29 2011 00:54 GMT
#7954
On June 29 2011 09:50 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 07:00 decafchicken wrote:
Sometimes i get knee pain on leg curls/extensions too...i stick to squats and DL


My friend's father is a doctor and said that both forward (quads) and reverse (hams) leg extensions are TERRIBLE for your knees so I've promptly stopped doing them. Other sources seem to agree on this issue.


I agree.... generally don't really like any of the machine leg isolation exercises at all
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
June 29 2011 01:24 GMT
#7955
christ almighty
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-29 03:51:46
June 29 2011 03:51 GMT
#7956
Hey, I run, and right now I'm trying to put together a post run workout for the rest of my body.
Any help would be appreciated

Right now I got this, and I'm wondering what I should add
Pushups
Situps/Crunches
Planks
Bicycles

Keep in mind I don't have access to a gym, but I probably could buy some wieghts if they would help
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 29 2011 03:52 GMT
#7957
On June 29 2011 12:51 LSB wrote:
Hey, I run, and right now I'm trying to put together a post run workout for the rest of my body.
Any help would be appreciated

Right now I got this, and I'm wondering what I should add
Pushups
Situps/Crunches
Planks
Bicycles

Keep in mind I don't have access to a gym, but I probably could buy some wieghts if they would help


What are your goals
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
June 29 2011 03:59 GMT
#7958
I'm not looking to get buffed up, but a six pack would be really nice. Would that work as a goal?

Age: 18
5'10"
160 pounds
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-29 04:06:32
June 29 2011 04:06 GMT
#7959
Also, he could use some help figuring out how busses work.

LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
June 29 2011 04:15 GMT
#7960
On June 29 2011 13:06 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Also, he could use some help figuring out how busses work.


Easy! Step inside and drive yourself somewhere else where Leamonwalrus can't find you and laugh when he beats up the wrong person
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
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