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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
June 22 2011 23:18 GMT
#7701
uh oh, i asked my coach to switch to power jerks. I feel much faster getting under the bar when i power instead of splitting. I got 4 week until nationals. lol
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
June 22 2011 23:28 GMT
#7702
lol time to step it up a notch?

thanks for the tips though. will try to post a full rom and a clean soonish.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
xJupiter9x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States150 Posts
June 22 2011 23:38 GMT
#7703
Workout is done. Today felt a lot easier than Monday. Did 5x7@230. Legs are tired though. Also did a light press 3x5@115 to stretch out my shoulders a bit.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
June 23 2011 01:25 GMT
#7704
First day of ever trying snatches. Lol i suck
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Carson
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada820 Posts
June 23 2011 01:39 GMT
#7705
On June 23 2011 10:25 funkie wrote:
First day of ever trying snatches. Lol i suck


They can be awkward at first, I found getting used to them not unlike getting used to barbell squats.

But when you "get" them, and can start to add weight, they're SO AWESOME

Bro's (like me ) in the gym use their benchpress/deadlifts as a way of determining how strong they are, but the most accomplished lifters use the snatch/clean and jerk.

keep it up!
"You have to remember something: Everybody pities the weak; jealousy you have to earn." Arnold Schwarzenegger
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 23 2011 02:49 GMT
#7706
On June 22 2011 22:37 BouBou.865 wrote:
Woot ordered starting strength, receiving it on the 8th of July and going fucking bananas with it. No idea I would be so hyped, wooooooo!! Apeshit go time real soon. Untill that time should I just stick with crossfit/machines and random dumbell exercises, or try deadlifting and stuff already?

Seriously though, you guys are going down.


I would go with squats and deadlifts and such already. Just use the wiki I referenced in the OP for now and focus A LOT on technique.


On June 23 2011 00:04 Sinep wrote:
I'm interested in doing this: + Show Spoiler +

anybody have good ideas in terms of progression/buildup? (@eshlow). starting to get a bit fascinated by calisthenics, some of the stuff is really sexy :X



See the bodyweight article I put in the OP.

Specifically, the exercise/resources section you should go to drillsandskills or beast skills for some of the handstand stuff you want to learn.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 23 2011 02:50 GMT
#7707
On June 23 2011 02:16 StimD wrote:
damn it sucks being injured. Haven't been able to do a full work-out for over a year now. Shoulder is completely fucked up... I feel like an idiot every time I go to the gym cause basically all I can train is core, light biceps curls and light squats. Surgery in about 6 months, if that goes wrong I will seriously get depressed. SLAP tear if anyone wonders. Take it from a guy that learned it the hard way, don't mess with your joints. You really don't know what you've got until its gone.


Pre surgery you basically want to strengthen everything up as much as possible.

Anything non-painful is generally OK though so that may add some more exercises you can do.

I have a post shoulder surgery post written somewhere that i can give you once you get closer. But yeah, strengthen everything as much as possible because it will help in the recovery because you'll experience significant atrophy
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 23 2011 02:54 GMT
#7708
On June 23 2011 06:52 dudeman001 wrote:
My shin splint from a few days ago is still healing. Should I hold off on running for another day or just start some light jogging?


Anything non-painful is fine.

BUt in general shin splints tends to be poor technique coupled with overuse.

Make sure you are learning how to midfoot strike when you run..... heel strike is the fast way to shin splints and other injuries.


On June 22 2011 08:54 MajinMojo wrote:
OK so I finally found the only common denominator for my splitting headaches while lifting. It is apparently ::dun dun duuun...:: HUMIDITY. A few weeks ago there were a number of sessions where I'd get a baaaaad headache every time I lifted. Like it was really debilitating to the point where I either couldn't finish my workout or had to take a really long break, bump my weights down a bit, and do as much as I could manage.

So today it was humid as shit and during my work sets for squats I started to feel unnaturally light headed again and it took me FOREVER to catch my breathe in between each set because of the heavy air. Damn squats took me like half an hour. But I managed it well and wound up able to finish my whole workout without the actual splitting headache. Just took it slow.

Squats took a lot out of me though because I was trying really hard to concentrate on not getting a headache but at the same time I really wanted to push that weight. Last set probably was the worst looking set I've ever done but finishing that 5th rep felt awesome haha. I think somewhere in there, probably 2nd and 4th reps I almost stalled because I let myself rock way too far forward on the way up, but was able to correct myself before my form fell apart.


Can be really any number of things.

Valsalva is fine, but make sure you pause between reps to breath if this is the case. As opposed to forced exhale and inhale on descent. Make sure you're coupling breaths between sets right

Make sure you're not hyperextending/straining your neck

massage and soft tissue work may be a good idea as well
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 23 2011 02:55 GMT
#7709
On June 22 2011 08:55 FFGenerations wrote:
btw is salt an important nutrition to have? its weird but the other day i felt like i was craving for some salt. i never add salt to anything maybe im deficient lol! munching on walnuts now coz they taste salty but looking at the pack it says theres only trace salt less than 1% of daily recommendation
*goes to google*


Yes. If you have cravings for salt you probably need some.


On June 22 2011 13:29 Release wrote:
Is raw milk better than other milks? I heard it has lots of nutrients that fat reduced milks don't have.


If you can get raw milk go for it. I've only heard good things about it and would love to try some myself.

And yes, the fat is good for you.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
DimmuKlok
Profile Joined June 2010
United States225 Posts
June 23 2011 03:40 GMT
#7710
What changes would you guys make, if any at all, to the paleo diet for someone who is diabetic? I'm trying to get my mom to eat healthier and lose weight. I'm not very educated on what she needs and don't want to cause any harm, so I was wondering what you guys thought.

Thanks!
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
June 23 2011 03:55 GMT
#7711
On June 23 2011 11:54 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 06:52 dudeman001 wrote:
My shin splint from a few days ago is still healing. Should I hold off on running for another day or just start some light jogging?


Anything non-painful is fine.

BUt in general shin splints tends to be poor technique coupled with overuse.

Make sure you are learning how to midfoot strike when you run..... heel strike is the fast way to shin splints and other injuries.

Yeah, I just started doing interval training after just kinda lackadaisically doing distance cardio for months, I don't think my legs were ready for the change.
Sup.
MeShiet
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada290 Posts
June 23 2011 05:38 GMT
#7712
I hate being sick - started feeling symptoms of strep throat on Monday morning and have been on break from workouts since then. I can't believe how hard it is to resist the temptation of giving into lifting. Luckily it's been getting better and getting about an hour and a half of sun today while slowly mowing the lawn sure helped me feel energized. Gonna take it easy and just keep on stretching and resting until at the very least Friday.
If you die this way, you won't live to tell anyone how you died
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
June 23 2011 06:54 GMT
#7713
On June 22 2011 17:26 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 20:43 Zafrumi wrote:
On June 20 2011 20:06 zatic wrote:
Hmm I am pretty frustrated with SS currently, and I am wondering if you guys can help me figuring out whats wrong. I basically haven't had any progress for over 4 weeks now. I used to have almost perfect linear progress up until 90kg squat / 60kg bench, which I both hit over 4 weeks ago. Since then I just seem to be unable to get any further.
I had a bad lower back, but that has passed more than 3 weeks ago now, and shouldn't explain the stalling on the bench.

So over the past 5 weeks I had only 2 days where I felt good about the lifts. All the other days I couldn't complete any of the sets, and most of the time couldn't even complete what I managed to do the previous days.

Last week Wednesday was the one day that gave me hope becuase it all felt right again, managed 92.5kg 5-5-5 and 62.5kg 5-5-5 and it felt really good. But then Friday with 95kg I managed barely 4-3-2, and felt terrible doing it.

What frustrates me is I know I have a lot more strength in me, I just seem to not be able to activate it on most of my days now. I am never exhausted after those fail days. It feels like most of the time half my muscles just refuse to do work. When squatting I just fall apart at the lowest point, I get totally unstable, weight is shifting around and I don't feel in control at all.

Then when I have one of those few 'good' days everything works perfectly, I can actually access the strength my legs have, I am exhausted afterwards.

I tried sleeping more (one week I slept 8-10 hours a night), eating more, eating less. Just don't get what I can do to make those off-days the exception rather than the rule.


that sounds to me like you are breathing wrong which makes you lose tightness in your core. are you holding your breath until you are at the top again? make sure you squeeze your upper back and abs. really try to focus on it during your lift.
other than that I dont know what to tell you except that a legit stall is actually a sign of progress. read the section on stalling in the SS-wiki to see if you are legitimately stalling and then do a reset.

Hey thanks, breathing was defintely something I needed to improve! 95kg 5-5-5 yesterday, sweet. Now lets see if I can continue this.

Follow up question: To improve upper back tightness I also tried a narrower grip on the bar, and tried to raise my elbows. Which worked well, however what happens then is that my wrist bend in, pretty much like this picture here:
http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:The_Lifts#The_Squat

Any tips to avoid that?

Also, I feel what is holding me back most on the deadlift is grip strength. I am currently at 110kg and I know I have more in me, but I can't hold the bar for 5 reps in a row. I don't want to use any aids yet. What exercises can I do to improve grip strength?



ah zatic, we have the exact same problems on squat (back + shoulder + wrist) and DL (grip)
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 07:22:14
June 23 2011 07:12 GMT
#7714
On June 23 2011 12:40 DimmuKlok wrote:
What changes would you guys make, if any at all, to the paleo diet for someone who is diabetic? I'm trying to get my mom to eat healthier and lose weight. I'm not very educated on what she needs and don't want to cause any harm, so I was wondering what you guys thought.

Thanks!


I'm not sure, but I think paleo diet is actually perfect for diabetic people. wait for a nutrition expert to confirm this though.

On June 23 2011 14:38 MeShiet wrote:
I hate being sick - started feeling symptoms of strep throat on Monday morning and have been on break from workouts since then. I can't believe how hard it is to resist the temptation of giving into lifting. Luckily it's been getting better and getting about an hour and a half of sun today while slowly mowing the lawn sure helped me feel energized. Gonna take it easy and just keep on stretching and resting until at the very least Friday.


more vitamin D!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 07:18:25
June 23 2011 07:14 GMT
#7715
DimSum, are you still doing a lot of clean sots presses? Do you find they're helping with locking out jerks? How do you program them? As part of your c+j warmup? Beginning or end of the workout? What kind of sets/reps? Do you start every rep from the top or bottom?

I'm splitting right now, but getting a little frustrated with lockout and the degree of shoulder rotation. I can lock it out where its bone on bone if I just rotate my shoulders back as far as I would in a squat jerk. This is a little bit uncomfortable and if I do it for several days in a row I get shoulder pain that goes away after a few days. It takes me a long time to warmup if I lock them out this way, and it gets the job and I never have to worry about pressing out. If I try and lock it out to the distance that most people do, to more like a regular press, I often have soft elbows when the weight gets heavy. I think doing more clean sots presses might help me with this.

I can clean grip overhead squat (from the bottom position in a power rack) a bit under what I can jerk , but I could only sots press 40kgx5.
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inimenesc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Estonia374 Posts
June 23 2011 12:13 GMT
#7716
hey guys, what to do when i cant do overhead press?
Why i cant do it?
The ceiling is too low, i cant go all the way(about 5-8cm short right now)

"When game is going full retard, you can only go with it. If you start going against it, if you start going half retard, you´re fucking done for." -n0tail 2014
Ludrik
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia523 Posts
June 23 2011 12:16 GMT
#7717
You could try seated overhead presses. Or maybe press from a squatting position. Or handstand pushups with your knees bent.
Only a fool would die laughing. I was a fool.
inimenesc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Estonia374 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 12:19:15
June 23 2011 12:18 GMT
#7718
Ok, i think i can move my seat in the bench press, will try overhead pressing while sitting.
Handstand pushups are not for me, i am weak considering i weight 95kg, but i am 200+ so :D
"When game is going full retard, you can only go with it. If you start going against it, if you start going half retard, you´re fucking done for." -n0tail 2014
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
June 23 2011 12:19 GMT
#7719
On June 23 2011 21:13 inimenesc wrote:
hey guys, what to do when i cant do overhead press?
Why i cant do it?
The ceiling is too low, i cant go all the way(about 5-8cm short right now)



That... is a hilarious reason You should take the bar outside, obviously. Are you taller than tall, or is that building just strange?

Seated press doesn't use enough of your body imo, much more of a shoulder isolation.
inimenesc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Estonia374 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 12:25:44
June 23 2011 12:23 GMT
#7720
I cant go outside, because my gym is in the middle of the town, i am doing my workouts at some officebuildings basement. My father built a little gym there.

Seated overhead press is the best solution then i think.
"When game is going full retard, you can only go with it. If you start going against it, if you start going half retard, you´re fucking done for." -n0tail 2014
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