On June 22 2011 03:04 AoN.DimSum wrote: I wonder what hamman's max squat was when he was at the otc. I read that rezazadeh never bothered trying to increase his squat over 400kg.
This video made me think about my training philosophies, I definitely need to pick up my strength. I need to deadlift more, there is no reason for me to only pull 145kg when I squat 160 LOL.
^I have a question for you. Do oly lifters bench? And if so, why? Just started wondering
For those talking about the use of the belt (or other supplementary equipment).
Interesting read. He covers a few pieces of gear, one of which being the belt. If I understand him correctly, he argues that not only is it useful to wear a belt but that it allows you to actually activate your abs more regardless of where you are in your training. His argument is that it's not "cheating" because you essentially giving your abs something to push back against; it's not a "supportive" mechanism so much as it is just a way to let your abs actually factor more into the lift, which they should be doing anyway so why not wear a belt.
Personally I still don't know. I'm definitely no expert but there's obviously two camps about wearing a belt. Non-belters and raw guys look down on anything else as unnecessary and less hardcore. But at least the belt doesn't come with such a strong disdain that I see straps, bitch pads. and gloves usually bringing.
if you are a beginner, gaining muscle with help greatly with the fat loss process anyway. Losing fat first through something other than strength training is sort of like the long way around it. And since building muscle takes longer than losing fat it makes sense to start on the muscle building asap. Fat loss will come.
That's the general gist of it. There's all sorts of studies and resources in the OP explaining why it works this way.
On June 22 2011 04:29 Release wrote: is it easier to gain muscle then lose fat or lose fat then gain muscle? I'm more inclined to believe the prior.
I'm inclined to say muscle->lose fat since muscles require more calories than fat to be maintained, raising your body's daily caloric demand, but that's a very simple and crude explanation. However it's alot easier to lose a lot of fat then gain a lot of muscle.
On June 22 2011 03:04 AoN.DimSum wrote: I wonder what hamman's max squat was when he was at the otc. I read that rezazadeh never bothered trying to increase his squat over 400kg.
This video made me think about my training philosophies, I definitely need to pick up my strength. I need to deadlift more, there is no reason for me to only pull 145kg when I squat 160 LOL.
^I have a question for you. Do oly lifters bench? And if so, why? Just started wondering
I was under the impression that most don't because it doesn't really help the lifts much and can tighten up your upper body
i find it so hard following threads around here, so i'm sorry if i'm commenting about or replying to now irrelevant posts. just let me know if it's not ok.
On June 20 2011 10:16 thedeadhaji wrote: cygnus, such sick progress!!
thanks, but my progress is sub-par to the progress that SS dictates because i've had several long periods when i couldn't train etc. i know a lot of guys who made far more impressive progress through SS.
On June 21 2011 22:56 Ohnoes92 wrote: 70 kg squat, please comment my form:
Enjoy the crappy music in my gym lol
-Edit- Happy birthday Catch!
if that is supposed to be a LB squat, it's not. you should read and study the theory of the motion from scratch. you're shooting your knees forward, you don't keep your back straight enough, the stance is too narrow and you don't push your knees apart.
also you should never drop yourself the way you do, you need to descend in a controlled manner when your back, abs and every muscle is tight.
read or re-read the squat chapter in SS.
On June 20 2011 22:56 Donkeys wrote: can someone critique my snatch form? second work out - snatching is so exhausting
in my opinion there is no point in giving a critique on a snatch that isn't even close to the normal workload (so it seems), because at such weights technique changes. plus, the camera angle and view really prevents me from judging anything.
On June 22 2011 04:29 Release wrote: is it easier to gain muscle then lose fat or lose fat then gain muscle? I'm more inclined to believe the prior.
it's easier to lose fat than gaining muscle because losing fat only requires a negative caloric intake whereas gaining muscle mass requires a surplus of caloric intake and getting out of homeostasis which is usually achieved by exercising properly.
On June 22 2011 04:03 sJarl wrote: To defend the straps: they have their uses while bitch pads and gloves don't.
straps are very beneficial for trainees that have exercises that involves heavy abuse of the wrists in multiple sets and repetitions, even at low workloads, such as weightlifters that work on their snatch technique and dont want to overuse and injure their wrists.
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i've decided to provide my training log in this thread after each workout day i'm having to entice more interest and motivation in other and perhaps you'll help me with that aswell, if it's not ok, say so
last workout was yesterday:
(all weights are in kilograms)
PR - personal record F - failure
i've missed a few workouts lately because i'm moving out of the dormitories back home for the summer etc, so this wasn't a full on workout as part of the training log.
On June 22 2011 03:04 AoN.DimSum wrote: I wonder what hamman's max squat was when he was at the otc. I read that rezazadeh never bothered trying to increase his squat over 400kg.
This video made me think about my training philosophies, I definitely need to pick up my strength. I need to deadlift more, there is no reason for me to only pull 145kg when I squat 160 LOL.
They said that the US coaches focused mainly on the technique of the lifts, does that mean we had some of the prettiest looking lifts even though we didn't have the highest?
Adidas power perfect ii shoes arrived as I left for work. !!!!!!!! Thought they were too tight at first but loosened the laces and think they're perfect. Got size 11.5 after hearing they r usually a bit tight. Support is amazing, can't wait t try them at gym tomorrow. Been using 3 yr old cheap trainers w holes in the soles. So clean n sparkly I don't wanna wear em, they're too nice!!
I won't be in for PT for a couple weeks. In the meantime he said I should do exercises that work on "parascapular strengthening" and extension exercises for the cervicothoracic spine. If you can't or don't feel capable of helping, but otherwise...
On June 22 2011 06:35 Froadac wrote: @ESHLOW (yes, all caps required )
I won't be in for PT for a couple weeks. In the meantime he said I should do exercises that work on "parascapular strengthening" and extension exercises for the cervicothoracic spine. If you can't or don't feel capable of helping, but otherwise...
When the doc is talking about parascapular strenthening I'm going to assume he is talking about the rotator cuff muscles. There is plenty of stuff to be found on the internet about different exercises for that region. ---------
Today I learned two things: something is iffy with my squatting form and it is stupid to follow after the bar when you are dropping it after a snatch. Now I've got a broken thumbnail to remind me.
Did countless snatches from my knee (feel comfortable with it that way). Worked up to a pr of 65kg. @DimSum/other oly expers: form check please? + Show Spoiler [50kg Snatch] +
On June 22 2011 04:03 sJarl wrote: To defend the straps: they have their uses while bitch pads and gloves don't.
Indeed, but they still fall under the category of; "you shouldn't be using them until you can lift some heavy ass weights."
I mean, they're frowned upon if you are deadlifting like 235lbs and use straps all throughout warmups as well as work sets.
Mandatory rule is to hit 320lbs first on deadlift. then it's optional. If you go below 320, you're a little bitch.
Well all I feel about it is that I want to lift heavier weights and I simply can't without straps. I have always had an abnormally weak grip. When I want to do shrugs with le 200lbs there is no way I can do it without straps.
Step one: Don't do shrugs :D Step two: Do rack pulls (Hits my traps really hard personally, some may differ. I get it right above my knee cap) Step three: Farmers walk or just hold on to plates for as long as possible? I feel like those would fix grip, but grip has never been a problem for me. ??? Profit!
On June 22 2011 04:03 sJarl wrote: To defend the straps: they have their uses while bitch pads and gloves don't.
Indeed, but they still fall under the category of; "you shouldn't be using them until you can lift some heavy ass weights."
I mean, they're frowned upon if you are deadlifting like 235lbs and use straps all throughout warmups as well as work sets.
Mandatory rule is to hit 320lbs first on deadlift. then it's optional. If you go below 320, you're a little bitch.
Well all I feel about it is that I want to lift heavier weights and I simply can't without straps. I have always had an abnormally weak grip. When I want to do shrugs with le 200lbs there is no way I can do it without straps.
I used to have this problem. Then I spend 2-3 weeks on improving my grip and it hasn't been a problem since.
EPT
Time to get the ice grumble grumble.
