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Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
May 27 2011 03:20 GMT
#6101
Well then... May have to go check out my uni's yoga sessions at the gym. Or sign up for the yoga class we have in the spring (1 credit hour ) lol.

Hot chicks are always a plus.
Working on my flexibility is a plus.
Sounds like a win-win to me.
Victory Loves Preparation
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 03:25:10
May 27 2011 03:22 GMT
#6102
On May 27 2011 12:04 thedeadhaji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 11:37 Froadac wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:28 travis wrote:
205 3x5 eh? pretty buff bro

Yeah. I didn't realize your bench was anywhere near that high >.>


My OH Press is abysmal though >__>

Both of mine are >.>

My hamstrings are soooo tiiiight. Even just extending them all the way hurts.

Any advice? Growing all this muscle hurts flexibility maybe?
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
May 27 2011 03:34 GMT
#6103
On May 27 2011 12:22 Froadac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 12:04 thedeadhaji wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:37 Froadac wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:28 travis wrote:
205 3x5 eh? pretty buff bro

Yeah. I didn't realize your bench was anywhere near that high >.>


My OH Press is abysmal though >__>

Both of mine are >.>

My hamstrings are soooo tiiiight. Even just extending them all the way hurts.

Any advice? Growing all this muscle hurts flexibility maybe?


Stretching is basically what you have for that. I don't recommend excessive stretching before a workout because that can affect performance, but some light stretching is important for being able to hit a full squat.

Also, warmup sets will help you gain the flexibility you need to squat full.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
May 27 2011 03:42 GMT
#6104
On May 27 2011 12:22 Froadac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 12:04 thedeadhaji wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:37 Froadac wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:28 travis wrote:
205 3x5 eh? pretty buff bro

Yeah. I didn't realize your bench was anywhere near that high >.>


My OH Press is abysmal though >__>

Both of mine are >.>

My hamstrings are soooo tiiiight. Even just extending them all the way hurts.

Any advice? Growing all this muscle hurts flexibility maybe?

My first day of doing oh press i struggled to even lift the bar once over my head lol. I was like holy shit is this suppose to be this heavy lol.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 27 2011 03:46 GMT
#6105
On May 27 2011 12:42 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 12:22 Froadac wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:04 thedeadhaji wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:37 Froadac wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:28 travis wrote:
205 3x5 eh? pretty buff bro

Yeah. I didn't realize your bench was anywhere near that high >.>


My OH Press is abysmal though >__>

Both of mine are >.>

My hamstrings are soooo tiiiight. Even just extending them all the way hurts.

Any advice? Growing all this muscle hurts flexibility maybe?

My first day of doing oh press i struggled to even lift the bar once over my head lol. I was like holy shit is this suppose to be this heavy lol.

Haha. I'm still struggling at olympic bar weight.

Having a non olympic set was actually good for me: lifting a bar would be too hard for me at the beginning.

I can do a full squat. Those muscles are stretched. Anything the other direction though, and it's a pain. Like deadlift can be hard b/c of my long legs and lack of flexibility.

is there a stretching regiment you would suggest?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 04:09:40
May 27 2011 04:07 GMT
#6106
On May 27 2011 10:29 phyre112 wrote:
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On May 27 2011 08:06 Zepish wrote:
When doing squats, I think my back starts to round before I hit parallel... I searched around and found that it was probably due to my hamstrings being not flexible enough. Do you guys have specific streches you do to help with squatting ?


Just google "hamstring stretches" and spend maybe 10 minutes per day doing them.

Rant.
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I swear my family is trying everything they can to stall me from going to the gym. First, there's some "deal" my mother gets at a local university for letting their students shadow in her classroom. Then she doesn't know who to talk to to cash in on this deal. Then I might as well just pay the $20/month to go to that university gym anyway. But wait, why don't you check out this other (commercial) gym that is clearly much more expensive and has worse hours? because it's closer. Oh, it doesn't have the weights you need? Well can't you go anyway and do something else? No? Well, what was it you mentioned about bodyweight training a week ago? Oh, you still need a way to train legs? Well I can probably get you into your old high school gym starting in a month for that. No? well look into that $20/month thing. Oh, they want you to pay for parking? let me talk to someone, I get free parking there.

Clearly, someone doesn't want me going to the gym. I don't understand how 65 dollars for three months of lifting and parking is a big deal, but I need to borrow it from my parents as my summer job won't have me paid until july. I also don't have a car of my own, and the gym IS ~20 minutes away, so I need them to approve of me going there. But it's been three weeks now of discussion, and two since I've been home, and I am no closer to going to the gym than when it all began. FML.

Also, they continue to roll their eyes at any meal, when I ignore the bread/pasta, or the corn, peanuts, and various other foods I don't eat right now, each and every time I take my vitamins in front of them, or when I need to run to the store for another gallon of milk every three days. I don't see how trying to be healthy is offensive to them, especially when my mother complains daily about how old she feels, how poorly her pants are fitting, how my sisters have both gained weight, or when my father has to watch his cholesterol and blood pressure so carefully, having a family history of heart problems, and also having had a "something" ~1.5 years ago that put him in the hospital for minor surgery. They're not healthy, but Why is ME trying to be such a terrible thing?


I mad.

I also, after two days of reading still have NO IDEA how to go about structuring a bodyweight training routine. I'm a complete beginner when it comes to gymnastic ability - hell, I don't have the balance to stand on one foot sometimes, let alone do a proper handstand. But I'm really interested in learning these techniques, it just seems much more difficult to build a routine than barbell training, where SL and SS are quite simple.

I read most of eshlow's article, and now I understand the theory behind building a beginners routine, the rep schemes, the way to determine progression, but I still don't know how to pick specific exercises, how to actually PERFORM most of them, what kind of equipment is required for each.

Can someone who has experience in bodyweight training maybe link me to the bodyweight equivalent of a SS routine? something pre-made for beginners that will challenge a complete novice like me, but not leave me wasting my time (like with machines) or worse, hurting myself?

I really hope this type of thing exists =/


I put one of htem in that article haha... some of the available stuff is:

Planche
Front lever
Back lever
some type of rowing
Handstands,
dips/pullups
L-sit -> manna progression

Then do whatever you want for legs if you dont have access to weights. Sprinting, lunges, pistols, etc.


As for family yeah I agree with you. People want to put their misery onto you instead of try to change what they do because they are lazy and like to take the easy way out and blame people for trying to change themselves. It's pretty retarded. Ignore them... maybe they come around but usually they don't.

I know a buncha people who were way overweight/obese. When they first start losing weight people were supportive of them of course. But once they KEEP losing weight and start getting fit people are like you're losing too much weight... you need to eat more! You're getting too skinny it's unhealthy (when of course they are all 50+ lbs overweight)..... And they generally give the person losing weight and gaining muscle dirty looks.

It's amazing what people do when they see you fixing their life but they make no attempt to fix theirs. EVEN family.... sometimes ESPECIALLY family.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 27 2011 04:22 GMT
#6107
^
I see a bit of that in my own house. My dad isn't overweight but only does cardio, and got all defensive about me using his old weight set. And my mom just is like "why don't you walk more, I do it every morning" despite the fact that she continues to gain weight.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 27 2011 04:24 GMT
#6108
I got a little bit of that from my dad.. pretty sure he was just jealous of how I was improving myself while he is getting older/weaker and can't do things he did when he was younger.

I just consider it kind of sad but don't dwell on it.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
May 27 2011 04:28 GMT
#6109
@majinmojo, your start position in the power clean looks good. You seem to be jumping with the bar, instead of driving with your hips. I think that causes the jumping backward motion.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
GumThief
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada284 Posts
May 27 2011 04:34 GMT
#6110
what ever happened to My dad can beat up your dad? You punks get a little 1inch bicep and start to belittle your pops??
Well my dads over 9 fucking feet tall with bricks for fists, a heart of a lion, as cunning as a fox, and could probably bench over 9,000 but he's too fast I can't even see it -it looks like hes just laying there he says hes really doing it and i believe him because my dads the best dad ever.


Side note- really starting to enjoy the overhead press. Improving technique and just finished off 150x5x5 feels good feels great
:))
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
May 27 2011 04:38 GMT
#6111
Today's workout:

Bench: 195x6, 205x6, 215x6. 3rd set my spotter helped with reps 3-6; I wanted to get the maximum workout possible today.

Military press (dumbells): 50sx6, 50sx6, 55x6.

Flys (dumbells): 35sx6x3

Planks: 1:30 each on left arm, right arm, and both arms.

Did a couple tricep exercises and another shoulder exercise as well. Overall, a pretty good workout! Getting close to my strength goals. Also, was surprised to weigh myself and find that I'm at 193 pounds :O I hope the 13 pounds I've gained since January is mostly muscle
Barett
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada454 Posts
May 27 2011 05:03 GMT
#6112
I know I am quite late, but I was working out for a couple months, but I hurt my back last month. I'm going to kick start my new workout now that my back is better right here!

Barett
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 180 pounds
Starting Date: 5.27.2011
Goal Date: 9.01.2011
Weight Goals: 160 pounds
Training Goals: I plan on joining the Canadian Navy, so I wanna be in the best shape of my life. Basically pass the Physical with ease.
Plus as a personal Milestone. Run my local run (That we all had to do in High School) (4.6k)) In under 23 Minutes.
Nutritional Goals: To eat healthy everyday, not just some days .

I want to get into some kind of Sport, or Activity that will help me go often. I love playing Tennis but it is hard finding consistent groups in my area. Would you guys suggest Martial Arts? I have always been interested, but honestly know very little and have never done any. We have quite a few local places, with 1 really nice prestiges one.

Now of the fun to make my self up a workout plan
Gym, Video Games, Laundry.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
May 27 2011 05:04 GMT
#6113
On May 27 2011 13:07 eshlow wrote:

I know a buncha people who were way overweight/obese. When they first start losing weight people were supportive of them of course. But once they KEEP losing weight and start getting fit people are like you're losing too much weight... you need to eat more! You're getting too skinny it's unhealthy (when of course they are all 50+ lbs overweight)..... And they generally give the person losing weight and gaining muscle dirty looks.

It's amazing what people do when they see you fixing their life but they make no attempt to fix theirs. EVEN family.... sometimes ESPECIALLY family.


My family can't even guess correctly when I'm actually losing weight or gaining weight, it's ridiculous. Thank god I can flat out ignore whatever they say since I have an income and independence...
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
May 27 2011 05:05 GMT
#6114
On May 27 2011 13:34 GumThief wrote:
what ever happened to My dad can beat up your dad? You punks get a little 1inch bicep and start to belittle your pops??
Well my dads over 9 fucking feet tall with bricks for fists, a heart of a lion, as cunning as a fox, and could probably bench over 9,000 but he's too fast I can't even see it -it looks like hes just laying there he says hes really doing it and i believe him because my dads the best dad ever.


Side note- really starting to enjoy the overhead press. Improving technique and just finished off 150x5x5 feels good feels great


Plz tell me about OH Press form. I'm all ears.
Barett
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada454 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 05:35:39
May 27 2011 05:31 GMT
#6115
Can anyone recommend to me what I should do for a workout plan. I mostly wanna use weight, but also want some muscle gain. Should I go to a Personal Trainer and get one drafted up? Or can I do research. I looked all over the thread and there are no Workout plans and I assume for good reason because they are very person specific. I am new to all this and REALLY need the help lol. I got the basic lifting info from the thread, and am going to do the Paleo Nutritional System.

Thanks for the help guys. When it comes to being healthy I am quite the noob.

The first thing that popped up when I Googled it was Fitness Routines
I was thinking of doing this 3-4 times a week with a run 1-2 times a week. With a Healthy Diet I think this will be ok.... Not shure though.
Gym, Video Games, Laundry.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
May 27 2011 05:34 GMT
#6116
Starting Strength...
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Barett
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada454 Posts
May 27 2011 05:39 GMT
#6117
On May 27 2011 14:34 Cambium wrote:
Starting Strength...

Starting Strength seems to be more about Gaining Muscle. I do want to do some muscle gain, but I also need to loose quite a bit of weight.
Gym, Video Games, Laundry.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 27 2011 05:42 GMT
#6118
On May 27 2011 14:39 Barett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 14:34 Cambium wrote:
Starting Strength...

Starting Strength seems to be more about Gaining Muscle. I do want to do some muscle gain, but I also need to loose quite a bit of weight.

IT does both.
Barett
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada454 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 05:49:57
May 27 2011 05:47 GMT
#6119
Ok sorry lol. Like I said new to this.
The book is quite daunting. Will take me a while to get through it.
Gym, Video Games, Laundry.
Michaelj
Profile Joined February 2008
United States186 Posts
May 27 2011 05:51 GMT
#6120
On May 27 2011 14:47 Barett wrote:
Ok sorry lol. Like I said new to this.


Just don't drink the gallon of milk that some people in this thread are drinking, and switch your diet over to lots of vegetables and meat (little to no grains). Losing weight is mostly about diet, the exercise is there to help you get stronger in general but also to keep you from losing muscle instead of fat
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