EPTi think i hesitate a bit before dropping down
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Donkeys
Mexico308 Posts
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MajinMojo
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Catch
United States616 Posts
On May 07 2011 04:37 sawedust wrote: Congrats on the major progress! I started just about where you were with your initial lifts and have also progressed to where you are now (and still going!) @Majin: Lol exact same man But I think you can also improve on those lifts when you get healthy again; can't let someone who weighs almost 50 pounds less than you lift the same amount of weight on the program  Thanks man lol what are you weights right now? The only ones that I know won't move up much are the bench and OH press. My deadlift and my squat can still go up a little. Still, I've found out a lot of things that I rather fix before I move up; I'm too quad dominate in general, I need to strengthen my lower back, and a lot of my form needs to get fixed on the squat... Once I get back into it and start bulking again is when I'll start upping my weights again, but I'll start off with box squats (to see what all the fuss is about/many people have suggested them over raw squats) and fixing my form/getting things right on the rest. | ||
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vicariouscheese
United States589 Posts
Anyone have input on having tried both? | ||
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Kaiko
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
On May 07 2011 06:27 Donkeys wrote: form check plz? :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E04dL7AGl6U&feature=channel_video_title i think i hesitate a bit before dropping down Could you get a side angle next time? It is hard to tell from that angle. But remember to look straight and keep your chest up at the start. @decaf thats awesome if you can train with bud charniga. Also today I hit a back squat double pr of 335lbs. Then I went for 345 and went too slow on the second rep.  | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On May 07 2011 06:53 vicariouscheese wrote: So... the "think you can squat" series has completely different form for squatting. Also aren't doing full squats, at least the guy in the series wasn't. Anyone have input on having tried both? Concepts are the same.... sit back, knees track over toes, spread the floor with legs, etc Don't worry too much about hte details. SOTYCS is more of the competitive powerlifting style which is slightly different | ||
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Catch
United States616 Posts
Form check! 325 x 5 @ ~179. The one thing I noticed a little bit of upper back round on the last rep and perhaps not enough setup in the second rep. Anyways, I figured that the EliteFts and Starting Strength were both the same in principle. I really liked how they explained the squat not as a up and down exercise but a sitting back and spreading out one. Vicarious do you mean full squats as in ATG or parallel? | ||
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vicariouscheese
United States589 Posts
On May 07 2011 09:46 Catch wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSfBlPOi0xQ Form check! 325 x 5 @ ~179. The one thing I noticed a little bit of upper back round on the last rep and perhaps not enough setup in the second rep. Anyways, I figured that the EliteFts and Starting Strength were both the same in principle. I really liked how they explained the squat not as a up and down exercise but a sitting back and spreading out one. Vicarious do you mean full squats as in ATG or parallel? Nice deads, looked easy When I say full squats I mean top of thighs hitting parallel or below. To me it seemed they were doing half squats with the bottom of thighs hitting parallel. I would also note the differences in opinion about head placement and where to look, which I know has been brought up in this thread at some point as well. And then some minor things like powerlifting squats have really wide grips, but when you're that size activating your traps doesn't make as much of a difference. Anyways I'd personally stick to rip's style, or maybe try out high bar like pendlay advocates, as I tend to train along the lines of people who I want to look like. Not really interested in the powerlifting bearmode look~ you're right about the sitting back aspect, I think I need to reset and check form as I think I'm going straight down. Basically I need to put up some form check vids. | ||
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nataziel
Australia1455 Posts
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Catch
United States616 Posts
Yeah, I can agree with that. I usually get my top thigh to parallel, but I don't think that that is something that really matters - they're probably doing it because that is what powerlifting comps call for and it could be fixed easily. They aren't Olympic lifters I suppose. But I still think all their principles can be applied to the squat in general, no matter what their discipline. And yeah Nataziel, trying to do these today made me realize that I need to work on my flexibility as well. Also, who was the guy who edited the "Sex, Squats, Milk &Oats" wallpaper that I posted awhile back? I finally decided on what I want if you would still do it for me! :D | ||
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ojdidit123
United States3 Posts
When I began my training regiment (20-30 mins cardio, 1 1/2 hours of core lifting - bench, squat clean prolly about 4 times a week) I was about 310 pounds (clearly overweight as I play at 290). With this I dropped about 30 pounds in about 2 months with a diet that my dad (a doctor) gave to me. My diet I would describe as incredibly low carb, hi protein diet and after 2 months I've been able to integrate more carbs while maintaining my weight. One enormous source of nutrition information has been the movie fathead (http://www.hulu.com/watch/196879/fat-head). This movie really opened my eyes in terms of how little i knew about nutrition and I recommend that everyone watch it if they can. Goals: Improve current maxes (i'm not a numbers guy) and help this thread as much as I can. I am incredibly lucky to have a great source of Fitness information as my dad was an Olympic rower and has served as a strength and condition coach for several years. I currently have two older sister who both row for division 1 schools and I will be the third child to compete in collegiate athletics. I feel like i've gone on forever, but I feel like working with a community like TL can only help me achieve my goals. Again -- this was my first post ever -- thanks for bearing with me | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
So right now 60--> 65 squat, 40-->45 bench press, and 60-->65 deadlift. Not bad, although my pecs are dead right now I'm actually running out of weights for my dad's weight set. I only have 65 pounds of weight + 15 pound bar = 80 tt Spreadsheet https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AhNskixPW9hQdE9PX0ZSZFRJZUJBRHRQUzZHT3NwMmc&hl=en&authkey=COC5sqwI Picture + Show Spoiler + Pants riding up really bad, but cba to take another one. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/4vmUxl.jpg) | ||
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sawedust
United States506 Posts
On May 07 2011 06:40 Catch wrote: Thanks man lol what are you weights right now? The only ones that I know won't move up much are the bench and OH press. My deadlift and my squat can still go up a little. I started off weighing 120lbs in March, now up to 132lbs. Just been eating a lot of food and keeping consistent in working out. You definitely got me beat on the deadlift with the last video you posted; I'm going for 225 my next deadlifting session. I've got a ways to go to get to 325lbs! First number was starting back in March, second/third numbers are where I am right now. Squat: 95 ---> 205lbs / 215lbs 1RM Bench: 95 ---> 145lbs / 165lbs 1RM Deadlift: 135 ---> 225lbs / 245lbs 1RM Overhead Press: 45 ---> 95lbs / 105lbs RM Same goes with me, my deadlift and squat are continually going up. Just did my first reset on the bench and overhead press, and this upcoming workouts I've worked back up to where I plateaued the first time. Don't let this scrawny guy "catch" you!  | ||
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Catch
United States616 Posts
Anyways, 235 is my x 5, my 1RM about four to six weeks ago was 325. I'm hopefully hitting 350 or above now. Your a lot closer than you think Like I said though, when I get back to squatting, I for sure wanna fix my form before moving on though. My gains would probably still be continuing if I wasn't cutting weight right now (GOMAD made me too fat :\ lol). My OH press is just weak at the moment - I have weak shoulders. I struggled with the bar the first workout. [some clever line that incorporates your name, since I couldn't think of one that made sense lol] | ||
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sawedust
United States506 Posts
On May 07 2011 14:08 Catch wrote: Haha wow. I feel like a dumbass. That is 235. 325 was my max from awhile back. inb4LOLOL IDIOT Anyways, 235 is my x 5, my 1RM about four to six weeks ago was 325. I'm hopefully hitting 350 or above now. Your a lot closer than you think Like I said though, when I get back to squatting, I for sure wanna fix my form before moving on though. My gains would probably still be continuing if I wasn't cutting weight right now (GOMAD made me too fat :\ lol). My OH press is just weak at the moment - I have weak shoulders. I struggled with the bar the first workout. [some clever line that incorporates your name, since I couldn't think of one that made sense lol] Yep, form with squats is very important. When I first started hitting heavier weightson my squat I ended up having improper form; I went back, corrected it, and now am doing it properly. Feels much better and now working the proper muscles! As for me, my weakest part is my chest; I can't get those muscles to grow for anything. My back and shoulders though would be my best physical feature, they grow extremely fast. If I were consider muscular symmetry, my back/shoulders would be imba compared to my chest. Keep working hard and I'll do the same! :D | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
On February 28 2011 07:31 nemY wrote: Figured I'd add myself to this list, I actually started Stronglifts5x5 independent of TL. Starting light because I don't have much experience lifting weights + doing compound exercises. nemY Age: 24 || Height: 5'8 || Weight: 155lbs Starting Date: 02/14/11 || Goal Date: I don't know... 6 months from now? I want to keep lifting for the rest of my life, but in order to keep in line with my weight goals, I'll say 6 months from now. 20 lbs in 6 months seems reasonable right? Weight goals -- 175lbs Training goals -- Squats: 225lbs. Bench: 195lbs Press/DL/Rows? Unsure of, but significant growth from where I started Nutrition goals -- GET HUGE Misc goals -- Get a job, start life, get accepted in and start grad school. Right now my lifts are: Squats: 5x5x135 Bench: 5x5x110 Press: 5x5x70 BB Rows: 5x5x100 (but this is the exercise i feel the stupidest doing form wise) DL: 1x5x165 They aren't huge, but I'm progressing steadily along, 5lbs each workout and 10lbs on DL. Right now I have a few concerns on my form for some exercises (mainly rows and squats), but tomorrow I get to meet with a physical trainer for some help/insight. I'm excited because this guy is an ex-powerlifter/bodybuiler and hits me as a "man's man" when it comes to working out. For the record I'm already up to 166lbs (sup GOMAD), but I know that I'll be losing some of this weight in a few months when I get off the milk train. Quoted for Posterity. 5/6/11 Age: Still 24 Height: 5'8 Weight: 175 Hit my goal weight, now got to clean up some of the fat! Training Goals -- Squats: 225 Bench: 195: Press: 125ish DL: 315 Rows: Unsure Right now: Squats: 5x5x185 Bench: 5x5x140 Press: 5x5x90 BB Rows: 5x5x115. I just restarted doing them and I'm trying to get the form down... DL: 1x5x250 Nutrition Goals: Eat well and slim down a bit. Thanks GOMAD + mediocre dieting Misc Goals: Got Job, didn't get into the schools I wanted to, so study + reapply/change direction, working on life Thoughts-- Never met the physical trainer guy. He tore his knee up in a cycling accident. Kept in contact with him for a little while, wish him the best. Life goes on. Squats: They keep getting harder, I'm going to keep on doing them. I still curse the SSers after I've completed my 3rd set knowing that I still have two more sets to do. I need to tape myself to check depth and what not, but I feel as if I'm hitting adequate depth. Bench: I was up to 155 and stalling so I lowered it a bit and tried again. Today I felt like someone had replaced these: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_E6dXz_LWGHQ/Sz192IWX1AI/AAAAAAAAAQg/hWURpTNGNPg/s400/big_balls_std.jpg) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://catbreedswiki.com/images/cats/cat_cartoon4.png) and my workout was weak so I'm going to reattempt 5x5x145 next time I'm on bench. Press: I wish my gym had 1.5lb weights because I think I'd make more progress with smaller increments on the weights. Going to attempt 5x5x95 next time I'm out there which is where I stalled last time. BB rows: These things are still weird to me. I just restarted trying to do them. I think everybody I've met does BB rows different and everybody wants to tell me how they do them. I don't care how you do them damn it I just want to learn them my way. DL: My form is inconsistent on this; need to work on not pulling with my lower back. I swear when my form's right the weight feels retardedly light. Like, "Holy shit I could lift 315-right-now-like-a-boss" light. The times my form is off? I feel it, the weight is heavy. That's all for now. | ||
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vicariouscheese
United States589 Posts
On May 07 2011 14:55 nemY wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Progress Report On February 28 2011 07:31 nemY wrote: Figured I'd add myself to this list, I actually started Stronglifts5x5 independent of TL. Starting light because I don't have much experience lifting weights + doing compound exercises. nemY Age: 24 || Height: 5'8 || Weight: 155lbs Starting Date: 02/14/11 || Goal Date: I don't know... 6 months from now? I want to keep lifting for the rest of my life, but in order to keep in line with my weight goals, I'll say 6 months from now. 20 lbs in 6 months seems reasonable right? Weight goals -- 175lbs Training goals -- Squats: 225lbs. Bench: 195lbs Press/DL/Rows? Unsure of, but significant growth from where I started Nutrition goals -- GET HUGE Misc goals -- Get a job, start life, get accepted in and start grad school. Right now my lifts are: Squats: 5x5x135 Bench: 5x5x110 Press: 5x5x70 BB Rows: 5x5x100 (but this is the exercise i feel the stupidest doing form wise) DL: 1x5x165 They aren't huge, but I'm progressing steadily along, 5lbs each workout and 10lbs on DL. Right now I have a few concerns on my form for some exercises (mainly rows and squats), but tomorrow I get to meet with a physical trainer for some help/insight. I'm excited because this guy is an ex-powerlifter/bodybuiler and hits me as a "man's man" when it comes to working out. For the record I'm already up to 166lbs (sup GOMAD), but I know that I'll be losing some of this weight in a few months when I get off the milk train. Quoted for Posterity. 5/6/11 Age: Still 24 Height: 5'8 Weight: 175 Hit my goal weight, now got to clean up some of the fat! Training Goals -- Squats: 225 Bench: 195: Press: 125ish DL: 315 Rows: Unsure Right now: Squats: 5x5x185 Bench: 5x5x140 Press: 5x5x90 BB Rows: 5x5x115. I just restarted doing them and I'm trying to get the form down... DL: 1x5x250 Nutrition Goals: Eat well and slim down a bit. Thanks GOMAD + mediocre dieting Misc Goals: Got Job, didn't get into the schools I wanted to, so study + reapply/change direction, working on life Thoughts-- Never met the physical trainer guy. He tore his knee up in a cycling accident. Kept in contact with him for a little while, wish him the best. Life goes on. Squats: They keep getting harder, I'm going to keep on doing them. I still curse the SSers after I've completed my 3rd set knowing that I still have two more sets to do. I need to tape myself to check depth and what not, but I feel as if I'm hitting adequate depth. Bench: I was up to 155 and stalling so I lowered it a bit and tried again. Today I felt like someone had replaced these: + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + and my workout was weak so I'm going to reattempt 5x5x145 next time I'm on bench. Press: I wish my gym had 1.5lb weights because I think I'd make more progress with smaller increments on the weights. Going to attempt 5x5x95 next time I'm out there which is where I stalled last time. BB rows: These things are still weird to me. I just restarted trying to do them. I think everybody I've met does BB rows different and everybody wants to tell me how they do them. I don't care how you do them damn it I just want to learn them my way. DL: My form is inconsistent on this; need to work on not pulling with my lower back. I swear when my form's right the weight feels retardedly light. Like, "Holy shit I could lift 315-right-now-like-a-boss" light. The times my form is off? I feel it, the weight is heavy. That's all for now. Good shit man, keep it up! I'm probably going to buy 1.25lb weights myself for bench and overhead press. | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
hi ojdidit123!!! anyone else seen fat-heads? will look into it got up a bit late yesterday and rushed to the gym , started stretching for 15 mins, almost FAINTED (jesus christ squat stretching is hard for me) and decided not to waste my short session and go today instead :o yay decision making nemy, go buy some smaller weights i guess, take them in a plastic bag with your water bottle maybe a label idk or just tell a gym employee that you'll be taking your own or even write a little letter/note to give to them anyone here eat baked beans? i just to shovel them down but it seems nowadays i cant cope with them - i start farting literally every 15 minutes for the next 18 hours, its fucking crazy | ||
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sawedust
United States506 Posts
On May 07 2011 17:28 FFGenerations wrote: bwaahahahahahaah!!!! community squat reset FTW! anyone here eat baked beans? i just to shovel them down but it seems nowadays i cant cope with them - i start farting literally every 15 minutes for the next 18 hours, its fucking crazy Yeah if I can't successfully finish off my squat at 205 within the next two sessions I'm going to have to join you all in resetting And I love baked beans, but I hardly get to eat them. Maybe that's why I enjoy them so much, having them only every so often. Don't seem to have that gas problem though, only with milk for me. | ||
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