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Sergio1992
Italy522 Posts
He doesn't care about his fan base Well ,not a problem, I don't give a fuck to him, I just like to watch him rage. But...if he doesn't care about me, I won't disable adblock for him. Only for whitera and destiny it happened. For all the others, when they will prove to be people who actually care about their fans, I shall do the same. I just watch his stream to see his face when he gets wiped off the map. I bet that if he would remove his face from the stream, no one would watch it. | ||
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Embir
Poland567 Posts
On May 01 2012 11:36 Zooper31 wrote: You don't have to GG and you shouldn't be punished for not doing so. If you want to make it a rule then do it. If you don't, then be quiet and choose not the watch Idra then. Stop complaining about somebody who you expect to do something outside of their norm. This. I am fucking tired of persons saying GG and GL HF are important and are sign of being polite. Guess what? It is not. I don't give a rat's ass if someone "gg" or "gl hf" me and I never assume this is a sign of bad manners - I think a lot of progamers think the same. Besides, Good Luck, Have Fun is a dumb sentence - I dont really care if my opponent have fun or not, he plays this game so it is logical that he likes this games and plays for pleasure, and lets face it no one wants his opponent to be lucky, you want luck to be on your side. Fact that previous generation of gamers used this sentences, doesnt mean people should use it now. I deliberately don't use them. | ||
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Shottaz
United Kingdom414 Posts
On May 01 2012 21:14 Embir wrote: This. I am fucking tired of persons saying GG and GL HF are important and are sign of being polite. Guess what? It is not. I don't give a rat's ass if someone "gg" or "gl hf" me and I never assume this is a sign of bad manners - I think a lot of progamers think the same. Besides, Good Luck, Have Fun is a dumb sentence - I dont really care if my opponent have fun or not, he plays this game so it is logical that he likes this games and plays for pleasure, and lets face it no one wants his opponent to be lucky, you want luck to be on your side. Fact that previous generation of gamers used this sentences, doesnt mean people should use it now. I deliberately don't use them. You are entitled to your view by all means, but the community generally accepts glhf's and gg's. By not doing so, you are sometimes perceived as someone who is saying 'I hope you don't have good luck and don't care if you have fun'... which is what you just said anyway. If someone said that to me before a game of anything, I wouldn't be playing a game with them in the first place. For show or not, I think Idra should have gg'd his teammate. Just because the 'new generation' doesn't get it doesn't make it the norm or acceptable. | ||
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coReY425
Denmark86 Posts
On May 01 2012 21:14 Embir wrote: This. I am fucking tired of persons saying GG and GL HF are important and are sign of being polite. Guess what? It is not. I don't give a rat's ass if someone "gg" or "gl hf" me and I never assume this is a sign of bad manners - I think a lot of progamers think the same. Besides, Good Luck, Have Fun is a dumb sentence - I dont really care if my opponent have fun or not, he plays this game so it is logical that he likes this games and plays for pleasure, and lets face it no one wants his opponent to be lucky, you want luck to be on your side. Fact that previous generation of gamers used this sentences, doesnt mean people should use it now. I deliberately don't use them. I agree, especially on ladder. If Im losing, Im angry. Bad manners is gging when youre winning, or typing stuff like "too ez". Even manner mules are insanely more bad mannered then not typing gg for the rest of your life, and people seem to think its fine and hillarious. I get that progamers know each other and its no big deal that they mannermule, but its still way, way, way more bm then not gging a random on ladder. | ||
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klitschKO
18 Posts
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Savant
United States379 Posts
Maybe he behaves like this just to maintain his image for other reasons, but we've seen him give up important games too often for it to just be a show. | ||
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Genome852
United States979 Posts
On May 01 2012 22:12 coReY425 wrote: I get that progamers know each other and its no big deal that they mannermule, but its still way, way, way more bm then not gging a random on ladder. Why, because you think so? | ||
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Embir
Poland567 Posts
On May 01 2012 21:50 Shottaz wrote: You are entitled to your view by all means, but the community generally accepts glhf's and gg's. By not doing so, you are sometimes perceived as someone who is saying 'I hope you don't have good luck and don't care if you have fun'... which is what you just said anyway. If someone said that to me before a game of anything, I wouldn't be playing a game with them in the first place. For show or not, I think Idra should have gg'd his teammate. Just because the 'new generation' doesn't get it doesn't make it the norm or acceptable. First off I said i don't care if my opponent have fun or luck during game, nowhere i said that I hope for lack of fun or bad luck for them - especially in context of fun it would be stupid, so don't put unspoken words in my mouth. I just focus on my play, the rest is absolutely not important for me - it is all it means. Secondly, as I understand from your post in ladder games if someone don't gl hf you, you just leave the game? Thirdly, during my ladder sessions about 40% of my opponents use gg, gl, hf, the rest of them not - so i assume it is not as commonly acceptable norm. Moreover many times i had nice little talks after games with guys who never spoken to me during match, and they were completely fine and nice - I never felt lack of gg, hf and gl indicates any bad manners. On the contrary many guys who used gl hf were the most whining and bad mannered gamers, after losing games. And lastly, paraphrasing your words, fact that previous generation of gamers used gl hf, gg doesnt make it norm or acceptable. | ||
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LayZRR
Germany449 Posts
 would like to see all of the tournament from most evil genius. but theres no liquipedia site as far as i can tell. and VODS pls | ||
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sick_transit
United States195 Posts
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Lunchador
United States776 Posts
On April 30 2012 07:58 Bagration wrote: Publicity is publicity, and now everyone is talking about Idra and EG. Now everyone is paying attention to the tournament and curious about what happened. EG's been well-known since forever now, so I highly doubt that the publicity they're looking for today is negative publicity!  | ||
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zalem95
Peru184 Posts
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JoFritzMD
Australia163 Posts
On May 01 2012 21:14 Embir wrote: This. I am fucking tired of persons saying GG and GL HF are important and are sign of being polite. Guess what? It is not. I don't give a rat's ass if someone "gg" or "gl hf" me and I never assume this is a sign of bad manners - I think a lot of progamers think the same. Besides, Good Luck, Have Fun is a dumb sentence - I dont really care if my opponent have fun or not, he plays this game so it is logical that he likes this games and plays for pleasure, and lets face it no one wants his opponent to be lucky, you want luck to be on your side. Fact that previous generation of gamers used this sentences, doesnt mean people should use it now. I deliberately don't use them. I don't care if they don't 'gg' because I know if they don't 'gg' it means they're mad. | ||
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Daitakk
77 Posts
Idra is currently doing a streaming marathon, on the 1st of May. Looks like hes trying to burn through his monthly contractual obligation to stream in order to spite the management. Either that or hes being made stream to compensate shitting all over their "tournament". Speculation is fun. | ||
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Ryder.
1117 Posts
Check out the 2012 Australian Open Berdych vs Almagro, one of them (forgot who) refused to shake hands with the other at the end of the game, and (IMO rightfully) was booed off the court because of it. If you want eSports to be taken seriously stop acting like immature children, thinking that refusing to show sportsmanship is ok in a professional setting just because you're angry. Obviously when Joe Blow is playing on the ladder who gives a shit if he doesn't gg, but in a professional match where you are expected to be taken seriously, don't act like a spoilt kid and just say it. If you guys want eSports to have a degree of credibility then make an effort. Edit: Being angry is no excuse, if Federer/Nadal/Any decent tennis player can manage to shake hands after losing the championship of a grand slam with over a million dollar first prize place, then I'm sure progamers can put their emotions on hold for a minute and gg after losing a show match :/ | ||
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homerPimpson
Canada3 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:02 Ryder. wrote: I don't get why people think not saying gg and gl hf in tournaments is acceptable. It doesn't matter whether it was a good game, or whether you want them to have fun, it is a sign of sportsmanship that is a replacement for a handshake (obviously because of the medium that eSports is run on). Check out the 2012 Australian Open Berdych vs Almagro, one of them (forgot who) refused to shake hands with the other at the end of the game, and (IMO rightfully) was booed off the court because of it. If you want eSports to be taken seriously stop acting like immature children, thinking that refusing to show sportsmanship is ok in a professional setting just because you're angry. Obviously when Joe Blow is playing on the ladder who gives a shit if he doesn't gg, but in a professional match where you are expected to be taken seriously, don't act like a spoilt kid and just say it. If you guys want eSports to have a degree of credibility then make an effort. Edit: Being angry is no excuse, if Federer/Nadal/Any decent tennis player can manage to shake hands after losing the championship of a grand slam with over a million dollar first prize place, then I'm sure progamers can put their emotions on hold for a minute and gg after losing a show match :/ I like how you're telling fans of eSports to stop acting like immature children when most of the fanbase are teenagers in high school. Keep shooting for the moon though. | ||
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Fogetaboudit
United States232 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:02 Ryder. wrote: I don't get why people think not saying gg and gl hf in tournaments is acceptable. It doesn't matter whether it was a good game, or whether you want them to have fun, it is a sign of sportsmanship that is a replacement for a handshake (obviously because of the medium that eSports is run on). Check out the 2012 Australian Open Berdych vs Almagro, one of them (forgot who) refused to shake hands with the other at the end of the game, and (IMO rightfully) was booed off the court because of it. If you want eSports to be taken seriously stop acting like immature children, thinking that refusing to show sportsmanship is ok in a professional setting just because you're angry. Obviously when Joe Blow is playing on the ladder who gives a shit if he doesn't gg, but in a professional match where you are expected to be taken seriously, don't act like a spoilt kid and just say it. If you guys want eSports to have a degree of credibility then make an effort. Edit: Being angry is no excuse, if Federer/Nadal/Any decent tennis player can manage to shake hands after losing the championship of a grand slam with over a million dollar first prize place, then I'm sure progamers can put their emotions on hold for a minute and gg after losing a show match :/ this | ||
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Gustis
Lithuania70 Posts
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sidonelis
Lithuania58 Posts
On May 03 2012 01:57 Gustis wrote: who won? Friendship | ||
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ChosenBrad1322
United States562 Posts
On May 03 2012 01:57 Gustis wrote: who won? lol... HuK won. | ||
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