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Sergio1992
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Italy522 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 07:44:59
May 01 2012 07:44 GMT
#561
Were some money being awarded to the winner? If not, I think I finally understood Idra.

He doesn't care about his fan base
Well ,not a problem, I don't give a fuck to him, I just like to watch him rage.
But...if he doesn't care about me, I won't disable adblock for him.
Only for whitera and destiny it happened. For all the others, when they will prove to be people who actually care about their fans, I shall do the same.

I just watch his stream to see his face when he gets wiped off the map.
I bet that if he would remove his face from the stream, no one would watch it.

Embir
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland567 Posts
May 01 2012 12:14 GMT
#562
On May 01 2012 11:36 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 10:08 StrafeJD wrote:
Idra should get some punishment for not GGing, even if he is just going against his teammate. It's just not fun for me to watch somebody rage, not GG, and then 6 pool two games straight.


You don't have to GG and you shouldn't be punished for not doing so. If you want to make it a rule then do it. If you don't, then be quiet and choose not the watch Idra then. Stop complaining about somebody who you expect to do something outside of their norm.


This.

I am fucking tired of persons saying GG and GL HF are important and are sign of being polite.
Guess what? It is not. I don't give a rat's ass if someone "gg" or "gl hf" me and I never assume this is a sign of bad manners - I think a lot of progamers think the same.

Besides, Good Luck, Have Fun is a dumb sentence - I dont really care if my opponent have fun or not, he plays this game so it is logical that he likes this games and plays for pleasure, and lets face it no one wants his opponent to be lucky, you want luck to be on your side.

Fact that previous generation of gamers used this sentences, doesnt mean people should use it now.
I deliberately don't use them.
Shottaz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom414 Posts
May 01 2012 12:50 GMT
#563
On May 01 2012 21:14 Embir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 11:36 Zooper31 wrote:
On May 01 2012 10:08 StrafeJD wrote:
Idra should get some punishment for not GGing, even if he is just going against his teammate. It's just not fun for me to watch somebody rage, not GG, and then 6 pool two games straight.


You don't have to GG and you shouldn't be punished for not doing so. If you want to make it a rule then do it. If you don't, then be quiet and choose not the watch Idra then. Stop complaining about somebody who you expect to do something outside of their norm.


This.

I am fucking tired of persons saying GG and GL HF are important and are sign of being polite.
Guess what? It is not. I don't give a rat's ass if someone "gg" or "gl hf" me and I never assume this is a sign of bad manners - I think a lot of progamers think the same.

Besides, Good Luck, Have Fun is a dumb sentence - I dont really care if my opponent have fun or not, he plays this game so it is logical that he likes this games and plays for pleasure, and lets face it no one wants his opponent to be lucky, you want luck to be on your side.

Fact that previous generation of gamers used this sentences, doesnt mean people should use it now.
I deliberately don't use them.


You are entitled to your view by all means, but the community generally accepts glhf's and gg's. By not doing so, you are sometimes perceived as someone who is saying 'I hope you don't have good luck and don't care if you have fun'... which is what you just said anyway.

If someone said that to me before a game of anything, I wouldn't be playing a game with them in the first place.

For show or not, I think Idra should have gg'd his teammate. Just because the 'new generation' doesn't get it doesn't make it the norm or acceptable.
Praise the sun! \o/
coReY425
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark86 Posts
May 01 2012 13:12 GMT
#564
On May 01 2012 21:14 Embir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 11:36 Zooper31 wrote:
On May 01 2012 10:08 StrafeJD wrote:
Idra should get some punishment for not GGing, even if he is just going against his teammate. It's just not fun for me to watch somebody rage, not GG, and then 6 pool two games straight.


You don't have to GG and you shouldn't be punished for not doing so. If you want to make it a rule then do it. If you don't, then be quiet and choose not the watch Idra then. Stop complaining about somebody who you expect to do something outside of their norm.


This.

I am fucking tired of persons saying GG and GL HF are important and are sign of being polite.
Guess what? It is not. I don't give a rat's ass if someone "gg" or "gl hf" me and I never assume this is a sign of bad manners - I think a lot of progamers think the same.

Besides, Good Luck, Have Fun is a dumb sentence - I dont really care if my opponent have fun or not, he plays this game so it is logical that he likes this games and plays for pleasure, and lets face it no one wants his opponent to be lucky, you want luck to be on your side.

Fact that previous generation of gamers used this sentences, doesnt mean people should use it now.
I deliberately don't use them.


I agree, especially on ladder. If Im losing, Im angry.
Bad manners is gging when youre winning, or typing stuff like "too ez".
Even manner mules are insanely more bad mannered then not typing gg for the rest of your life, and people seem to think its fine and hillarious.
I get that progamers know each other and its no big deal that they mannermule, but its still way, way, way more bm then not gging a random on ladder.
klitschKO
Profile Joined March 2011
18 Posts
May 01 2012 13:58 GMT
#565
i like gg
Savant
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States379 Posts
May 01 2012 14:14 GMT
#566
I don't know what glhf is even supposed to signify, but gg'ing is a way of indicating you've gracefully accepted defeat as a professional should. Idra's bitterness and condescension was entertaining back in the early years, but you'd expect him to finally grow up after all this time.

Maybe he behaves like this just to maintain his image for other reasons, but we've seen him give up important games too often for it to just be a show.

Genome852
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States979 Posts
May 01 2012 16:57 GMT
#567
On May 01 2012 22:12 coReY425 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 21:14 Embir wrote:
On May 01 2012 11:36 Zooper31 wrote:
On May 01 2012 10:08 StrafeJD wrote:
Idra should get some punishment for not GGing, even if he is just going against his teammate. It's just not fun for me to watch somebody rage, not GG, and then 6 pool two games straight.


You don't have to GG and you shouldn't be punished for not doing so. If you want to make it a rule then do it. If you don't, then be quiet and choose not the watch Idra then. Stop complaining about somebody who you expect to do something outside of their norm.


This.

I am fucking tired of persons saying GG and GL HF are important and are sign of being polite.
Guess what? It is not. I don't give a rat's ass if someone "gg" or "gl hf" me and I never assume this is a sign of bad manners - I think a lot of progamers think the same.

Besides, Good Luck, Have Fun is a dumb sentence - I dont really care if my opponent have fun or not, he plays this game so it is logical that he likes this games and plays for pleasure, and lets face it no one wants his opponent to be lucky, you want luck to be on your side.

Fact that previous generation of gamers used this sentences, doesnt mean people should use it now.
I deliberately don't use them.


I get that progamers know each other and its no big deal that they mannermule, but its still way, way, way more bm then not gging a random on ladder.


Why, because you think so?
Embir
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland567 Posts
May 01 2012 16:57 GMT
#568
On May 01 2012 21:50 Shottaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 21:14 Embir wrote:
On May 01 2012 11:36 Zooper31 wrote:
On May 01 2012 10:08 StrafeJD wrote:
Idra should get some punishment for not GGing, even if he is just going against his teammate. It's just not fun for me to watch somebody rage, not GG, and then 6 pool two games straight.


You don't have to GG and you shouldn't be punished for not doing so. If you want to make it a rule then do it. If you don't, then be quiet and choose not the watch Idra then. Stop complaining about somebody who you expect to do something outside of their norm.


This.

I am fucking tired of persons saying GG and GL HF are important and are sign of being polite.
Guess what? It is not. I don't give a rat's ass if someone "gg" or "gl hf" me and I never assume this is a sign of bad manners - I think a lot of progamers think the same.

Besides, Good Luck, Have Fun is a dumb sentence - I dont really care if my opponent have fun or not, he plays this game so it is logical that he likes this games and plays for pleasure, and lets face it no one wants his opponent to be lucky, you want luck to be on your side.

Fact that previous generation of gamers used this sentences, doesnt mean people should use it now.
I deliberately don't use them.


You are entitled to your view by all means, but the community generally accepts glhf's and gg's. By not doing so, you are sometimes perceived as someone who is saying 'I hope you don't have good luck and don't care if you have fun'... which is what you just said anyway.

If someone said that to me before a game of anything, I wouldn't be playing a game with them in the first place.

For show or not, I think Idra should have gg'd his teammate. Just because the 'new generation' doesn't get it doesn't make it the norm or acceptable.


First off I said i don't care if my opponent have fun or luck during game, nowhere i said that I hope for lack of fun or bad luck for them - especially in context of fun it would be stupid, so don't put unspoken words in my mouth. I just focus on my play, the rest is absolutely not important for me - it is all it means.

Secondly, as I understand from your post in ladder games if someone don't gl hf you, you just leave the game?

Thirdly, during my ladder sessions about 40% of my opponents use gg, gl, hf, the rest of them not - so i assume it is not as commonly acceptable norm. Moreover many times i had nice little talks after games with guys who never spoken to me during match, and they were completely fine and nice - I never felt lack of gg, hf and gl indicates any bad manners. On the contrary many guys who used gl hf were the most whining and bad mannered gamers, after losing games.

And lastly, paraphrasing your words, fact that previous generation of gamers used gl hf, gg doesnt make it norm or acceptable.


LayZRR
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany449 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 19:04:05
May 01 2012 17:45 GMT
#569
Where can i find the scores?

would like to see all of the tournament from most evil genius. but theres no liquipedia site as far as i can tell.

and VODS pls
sick_transit
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States195 Posts
May 01 2012 18:01 GMT
#570
I care a lot less about what he says during games than about the way he played after he was down 2-0. If I were the sponsor and had put up money for that match I'd be pretty outraged by the lack of effort. I know I was pissed that I wasted time watching it.
War is a drug.
Lunchador
Profile Joined April 2010
United States776 Posts
May 01 2012 19:35 GMT
#571
On April 30 2012 07:58 Bagration wrote:
Publicity is publicity, and now everyone is talking about Idra and EG. Now everyone is paying attention to the tournament and curious about what happened.


EG's been well-known since forever now, so I highly doubt that the publicity they're looking for today is negative publicity!
Defender of truth, justice, and noontime meals!
zalem95
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru186 Posts
May 01 2012 23:30 GMT
#572
this bo7 was really painfull to watch
nothing special
JoFritzMD
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia163 Posts
May 02 2012 02:43 GMT
#573
On May 01 2012 21:14 Embir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 11:36 Zooper31 wrote:
On May 01 2012 10:08 StrafeJD wrote:
Idra should get some punishment for not GGing, even if he is just going against his teammate. It's just not fun for me to watch somebody rage, not GG, and then 6 pool two games straight.


You don't have to GG and you shouldn't be punished for not doing so. If you want to make it a rule then do it. If you don't, then be quiet and choose not the watch Idra then. Stop complaining about somebody who you expect to do something outside of their norm.


This.

I am fucking tired of persons saying GG and GL HF are important and are sign of being polite.
Guess what? It is not. I don't give a rat's ass if someone "gg" or "gl hf" me and I never assume this is a sign of bad manners - I think a lot of progamers think the same.

Besides, Good Luck, Have Fun is a dumb sentence - I dont really care if my opponent have fun or not, he plays this game so it is logical that he likes this games and plays for pleasure, and lets face it no one wants his opponent to be lucky, you want luck to be on your side.

Fact that previous generation of gamers used this sentences, doesnt mean people should use it now.
I deliberately don't use them.


I don't care if they don't 'gg' because I know if they don't 'gg' it means they're mad.
"Guess what. All my strategies are made of balls." - Tasteless
Daitakk
Profile Joined November 2011
77 Posts
May 02 2012 06:29 GMT
#574
This whole thing was a joke, the games where played many months before the "event" and alot of them looked like they may have been thrown together from when they happend to meet on ladder.

Idra is currently doing a streaming marathon, on the 1st of May. Looks like hes trying to burn through his monthly contractual obligation to stream in order to spite the management. Either that or hes being made stream to compensate shitting all over their "tournament".

Speculation is fun.
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 10:11:01
May 02 2012 10:02 GMT
#575
I don't get why people think not saying gg and gl hf in tournaments is acceptable. It doesn't matter whether it was a good game, or whether you want them to have fun, it is a sign of sportsmanship that is a replacement for a handshake (obviously because of the medium that eSports is run on).

Check out the 2012 Australian Open Berdych vs Almagro, one of them (forgot who) refused to shake hands with the other at the end of the game, and (IMO rightfully) was booed off the court because of it. If you want eSports to be taken seriously stop acting like immature children, thinking that refusing to show sportsmanship is ok in a professional setting just because you're angry.

Obviously when Joe Blow is playing on the ladder who gives a shit if he doesn't gg, but in a professional match where you are expected to be taken seriously, don't act like a spoilt kid and just say it. If you guys want eSports to have a degree of credibility then make an effort.

Edit: Being angry is no excuse, if Federer/Nadal/Any decent tennis player can manage to shake hands after losing the championship of a grand slam with over a million dollar first prize place, then I'm sure progamers can put their emotions on hold for a minute and gg after losing a show match :/
homerPimpson
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada3 Posts
May 02 2012 14:12 GMT
#576
On May 02 2012 19:02 Ryder. wrote:
I don't get why people think not saying gg and gl hf in tournaments is acceptable. It doesn't matter whether it was a good game, or whether you want them to have fun, it is a sign of sportsmanship that is a replacement for a handshake (obviously because of the medium that eSports is run on).

Check out the 2012 Australian Open Berdych vs Almagro, one of them (forgot who) refused to shake hands with the other at the end of the game, and (IMO rightfully) was booed off the court because of it. If you want eSports to be taken seriously stop acting like immature children, thinking that refusing to show sportsmanship is ok in a professional setting just because you're angry.

Obviously when Joe Blow is playing on the ladder who gives a shit if he doesn't gg, but in a professional match where you are expected to be taken seriously, don't act like a spoilt kid and just say it. If you guys want eSports to have a degree of credibility then make an effort.

Edit: Being angry is no excuse, if Federer/Nadal/Any decent tennis player can manage to shake hands after losing the championship of a grand slam with over a million dollar first prize place, then I'm sure progamers can put their emotions on hold for a minute and gg after losing a show match :/


I like how you're telling fans of eSports to stop acting like immature children when most of the fanbase are teenagers in high school. Keep shooting for the moon though.
If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
Fogetaboudit
Profile Joined July 2010
United States232 Posts
May 02 2012 14:36 GMT
#577
On May 02 2012 19:02 Ryder. wrote:
I don't get why people think not saying gg and gl hf in tournaments is acceptable. It doesn't matter whether it was a good game, or whether you want them to have fun, it is a sign of sportsmanship that is a replacement for a handshake (obviously because of the medium that eSports is run on).

Check out the 2012 Australian Open Berdych vs Almagro, one of them (forgot who) refused to shake hands with the other at the end of the game, and (IMO rightfully) was booed off the court because of it. If you want eSports to be taken seriously stop acting like immature children, thinking that refusing to show sportsmanship is ok in a professional setting just because you're angry.

Obviously when Joe Blow is playing on the ladder who gives a shit if he doesn't gg, but in a professional match where you are expected to be taken seriously, don't act like a spoilt kid and just say it. If you guys want eSports to have a degree of credibility then make an effort.

Edit: Being angry is no excuse, if Federer/Nadal/Any decent tennis player can manage to shake hands after losing the championship of a grand slam with over a million dollar first prize place, then I'm sure progamers can put their emotions on hold for a minute and gg after losing a show match :/


this
Gustis
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania70 Posts
May 02 2012 16:57 GMT
#578
who won?
Real men 4gate.
sidonelis
Profile Joined April 2011
Lithuania58 Posts
May 02 2012 16:57 GMT
#579
On May 03 2012 01:57 Gustis wrote:
who won?


Friendship
ChosenBrad1322
Profile Joined April 2012
United States562 Posts
May 02 2012 16:58 GMT
#580
On May 03 2012 01:57 Gustis wrote:
who won?


lol... HuK won.
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