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On November 06 2011 11:14 eSBL wrote:
We decided to push a part of Sunday update in advance. Most of the visual changes. Feedback would be appreciated by the designer =-).
I'll make a proper patch note tomorrow with the rest of the update.
This first part solves the ie9 issues. You can tell to your internet explorer friends to come back, the bets will work.
Huge improvement. I'm loving the tabs, and overall there are much better space management and optimisation.
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On November 06 2011 11:14 eSBL wrote:
We decided to push a part of Sunday update in advance. Most of the visual changes. Feedback would be appreciated by the designer =-).
I'll make a proper patch note tomorrow with the rest of the update.
This first part solves the ie9 issues. You can tell to your internet explorer friends to come back, the bets will work.
Looks really good ^^
The tab navigation is awesome! Hopefully betting history will be in tomorrow.
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Thank you.
Monday's bets are open (NASL and GSL).
There is clearly too many, we are thinking of improving the daily refill (which was suggested by some of you) after Sunday's update (so the week ranking won't be impacted by this change).
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One feature I would like is the ability to bet on multiple entries when there are more than 2 options.
I'm assuming you're using a correct formula so it wouldn't be possible to abuse it, and that's a common practice when doing real bets to try and maximise the winning chance.
The reason I'm asking for it now is because this happened:
+ Show Spoiler +
and I know it sounds obvious now, but given that high payout I actually would have liked to put a tenner on that just in case.
Also, 6 extremely happy people :D
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I was so tempted to put money on oz bbongbbong last night just cos of the ridiculous odds but decided to play it safer and go bomber sage ;_;
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One feature I would like is the ability to bet on multiple entries when there are more than 2 options.
I'm assuming you're using a correct formula so it wouldn't be possible to abuse it, and that's a common practice when doing real bets to try and maximise the winning chance.
The reason I'm asking for it now is because this happened:
+ Show Spoiler +
and I know it sounds obvious now, but given that high payout I actually would have liked to put a tenner on that just in case.
Also, 6 extremely happy people :D
Very lucky indeed =-).
It's a good idea and we are positive about making a topic to discuss the bets and odds system on the forum next week.
Changing the bets (which was suggested before) sounds like a nice possibility too, and would require the same kind of changes in the API.
I won't rush any change to the bet system for tomorrow's update though.
Thx to the guy who just did a blank research on the participants page (I just received the crash mail). We didn't see this bug during the test. It will be corrected tomorrow.
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At midnight (UTC), the website will go into maintenance mode for update and ranking generation. Because it's the first one in real condition, it could take a while.
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I lost about a little more than 500 today, could you kindly give it back please ?
Thanks :D
EDIT : Well, it was worth the try.
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United States15275 Posts
LOL if you changed Curious vs Layla to Curious vs TheStC, the odds would be even.
Also how long will be the update take?
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Even though it cannot be abused since there are no multiple bets on the same item, the NASL Dimaga vs TT1 appears to be miscalculated.
The formula I use to verify if the odds are valid is (b - 1) * a <= b given a <= b.
In that game Dimaga's payout is 1.2, TT1's 7.1. If you apply it to the formula you get 6.1 * 1.2 = 7.32 > 7.1.
Or to put it with a practical example:
You bet 10 on TT1, 60 on Dimaga. You invested 70. If TT1 wins you get back 71, if Dimaga does you get 72. You always win.
Again, this is currently irrelevant since we can't bet on both, but it looks like there's a minor glitch in the code somewhere (this is the first time I found this problem across ~30 games). If you're planning on implementing multiple bets on the same game you might want to check it out.
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Also how long will be the update take?
Between 10 minutes and 4 hours =o.
You should want to bet to everything before the maintenance.
Even though it cannot be abused since there are no multiple bets on the same item, the NASL Dimaga vs TT1 appears to be miscalculated.
The formula I use to verify if the odds are valid is (b - 1) * a <= b given a <= b.
In that game Dimaga's payout is 1.2, TT1's 7.1. If you apply it to the formula you get 6.1 * 1.2 = 7.32 > 7.1.
Or to put it with a practical example:
You bet 10 on TT1, 60 on Dimaga. You invested 70. If TT1 wins you get back 71, if Dimaga does you get 72. You always win.
Again, this is currently irrelevant since we can't bet on both, but it looks like there's a minor glitch in the code somewhere (this is the first time I found this problem across ~30 games). If you're planning on implementing multiple bets on the same game you might want to check it out.
The odds are round to the superior number.
If the formula gives 1.2365548 => 1.3 (we use the rounded number).
Fake money + only one choice == we are very kind.
But thank you very much for pointing the issue, I'm not sure I would have made the connection during a switch to multiple choices.
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Hello,
I just finished to generate the ranking.
Keep in mind, it's the first its generated with more than 50 participants, the marks will probably require some balancing in the future.
The ranking page is over-slow, it's something I will fix in an incoming reboot but feel free to have a look until then.
I'll make a proper patch note as soon as everything is corrected.
And gg to JokeR for the #1 !
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United States15275 Posts
Something weird happened.
After the fix, I got the standard 50 minerals if your total was under 100 (mine was 0). But after a while the system added another 50 minerals to get me to 100. New money system or a bug?
And the IPL Pacific Qualifiers are tonight. It should be covered.
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youhou, got second !  2K made this week, it's gonna be hard to keep the rythm ^^
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I've been having a lot of issues with the mobile site. I can log in, but I can't do much else.
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Something weird happened.
After the fix, I got the standard 50 minerals if your total was under 100 (mine was 0). But after a while the system added another 50 minerals to get me to 100. New money system or a bug?
Thx for reporting. A real good guy Greg =-).
I did a mistake, I didn't wait for the daily refill (at midnight 05) when I tried to update. So the server crashed during the refill.
I deceided to make a second refill, so some of you got a double one. It won't change must thing though, because the daily refill will be bigger starting tomorrow (we are still trying to decide between 100 and 150).
And the IPL Pacific Qualifiers are tonight. It should be covered.
I'll have a look, if it's easy to cover we will, but we lack a bit of sleep after those days of update.
youhou, got second ! 2K made this week, it's gonna be hard to keep the rythm ^^
Yeah it's really hard to maintain the efficiency mark when you have a lot of money. A lot of us tried and failed during the alpha phase. But you can clearly target the 300/400 by playing safe.
I've been having a lot of issues with the mobile site. I can log in, but I can't do much else.
Han spoiler, it was the big announcement !!!
It should work now though (you may have to empty your cache). My friend in charge of that will fix the zoom on android (which makes betting not that easy).
=> The ranking page should be fast now. <=
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On November 07 2011 12:00 eSBL wrote:I'll have a look, if it's easy to cover we will, but we lack a bit of sleep after those days of update.
Too many players to add on the website to create the groups. Need sleep.
But we'll see for the Ro16 and finales tomorrow.
I hope cArn will pass the group stage =-).
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Patch note
Big changes:
- Left menu has been removed, which will permit to create modules that takes a lot less height. Bets will be rethink with that in mind, so you will have less to scroll.
- Tabs were added in the main page. Every tournament has its own tab, and the closed bets are separated from the rest (to avoid spoiler). The open tab by default contains the bets with the shortest deadline.
- A mobile version of the main page, it still needs some improvement (some issue with the zoom on Android for example) but it should be way more easy for those who wants to bet everywhere at any time !
- Forum was added but will be ""hidden"" while the team liquid sponsored thread is open. It's fully hand made which will offer a lot of opportunities later, but you might find some missing basic features at first.
- Friends, you have some ? Refer them to the website using the refer a friend feature (reed more on the faq)
Details:
- qxc and MoMaN appear directly on the right menu top ranking
- Participant page has been remade to deal with the high number of registration last week (thank you), you can now search.
- Ranking page was optimized, and we added a page selection.
- The number of bets displayed in the "Your bets" was rethink.
Post fix, tomorrow we will make another reboot to:
- Un-hidden the forum
- Calculate the season ranking, which won't be really interesting because it's the first week (so week ranking == season ranking)
- Change the daily refill from 50 to 100 (and the refill limit/registration start from 100 to 200)
Next week priority list:
- Finish the API for the other websites.
- Change the visual of some old tables, especially players, teams and participants.
- A big work on the calendar to display weeks and seasons statistics, players bet history, etc.
- A big surprise that will be announced around Wednesday.
Feel free to subscribe to the facebook or twitter account, in case of we lose one or two days between the closure of this topic and the opening of the forum.
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Hey, viewing a specific bet (https://www.esbl.co/bet/436/), it glitches and doesn't display correctly.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/YFYe2.jpg)
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Just found this out now, it looks amazing and I hope it enhances my e-sports viewing :D
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