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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
In fact I think I remember Clinton a while back saying it was one of the things he regretted about his presidency. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On September 17 2015 15:18 Seuss wrote: Not liking a candidate for foreign policy doesn't make you a social Darwinist, though Sanders hasn't really given his foreign policy platform yet. Do you disagree with his economic policy? It's actually the GOP's own fault. This is the ultimate outcome of their southern strategy pioneered by Reagan, plus all the gerrymandering nonsense that's gone on for years now. Did not really pay too much attention to his economic policies. His social policies on drugs and private prisons make a lot of sense though. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
1) NSA/Patriot Act: The surveillance is meaningless for the vast majority of Americans, and has relevant security implications for the US. And really, the NSA is only human: they can't/don't have the capability to manually listen in to the billions of random conversations, texts, and emails you send out. And quite frankly, your internet browsing history is already being monitored and logged by private companies like Google so...??? Also everyone spies on everyone else. 2) Yes, Sanders is broadly in favor of tackling these issues. I'm pointing out the issues I have with him as opposed to policies I wholeheartedly agree with, like single-payer. On September 17 2015 22:59 Ketara wrote: I was always told that NAFTA was a horrible agreement though. In fact I think I remember Clinton a while back saying it was one of the things he regretted about his presidency. Whoever told you that is a populist. The general trend is to associate NAFTA with the loss of heavy US manufacturing, despite the fact the industry was starting to struggle for decades, and was structurally inevitable as the US moved towards a post-industrial economy focused on light manufacturing and services (and emerging economies like China were opening up), and the majority of trade experts and economists tend view it's long-term effects positively. read article i linked Hillary is the one who's gone on record reopposing NAFTA (did it in 2008 and is probably doing it again), because populism. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 17 2015 23:05 Lord Tolkien wrote: Last quick post for now: 1) NSA/Patriot Act: The surveillance is meaningless for the vast majority of Americans, and has relevant security implications for the US. And really, the NSA is only human: they can't/don't have the capability to manually listen in to the billions of random conversations, texts, and emails you send out. And quite frankly, your internet browsing history is already being monitored and logged by private companies like Google so...??? Also everyone spies on everyone else. 2) Yes, Sanders is broadly in favor of tackling these issues. I'm pointing out the issues I have with him as opposed to policies I wholeheartedly agree with, like single-payer. Speaking of which, Person of Interest is on Netflix! Time to binge watch and prepare for season 5. I really hope they don't cancel it. Also Agents of Shield soon. Finally happy to have some of my shows back on. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Shame, GMOs are like my favourite thing. Can't we have at least one country where the development and utilization of GMOs isn't stifled by overly strict policies? | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On September 17 2015 23:10 Scip wrote: Oh Sanders is anti-GMO? Shame, GMOs are like my favourite thing. Can't we have at least one country where the development and utilization of GMOs isn't stifled by overly strict policies? Well, no. He's for GMO labeling, which is pretty much still pandering to the anti-GMO crowd (because there's literally no point besides to make GMO foods seem scary), but Vermont is a giant organic farming state which explains it somewhat. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Private prisons are terrible but it's hard to just rip them out. Who is going to pay for the prisons? Raising corporate tax rate sounds like an absolute terrible idea and I am not even sure if I support it in Canada. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On September 17 2015 23:14 Ketara wrote: Looked it up, Clinton has said he regrets NAFTA. ...source? On September 17 2015 23:15 Sufficiency wrote: Raising corporate tax rate sounds like an absolute terrible idea and I am not even sure if I support it in Canada. Completely abolishing it is what we should be doing. | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
TPP I dont know much about but i understand its a bunch of countries that already trade making an agreement on how they are going to trade to save them all a bit of money and ensure a certain standard quality. I don't know enough to understand how that could be bad. Being anti-GMO is not anti science inherently. The science guy himself is against them. (bill bill bill bill bill) people are dumb for not wanting to eat it cause its totally safe and usually better. The problem comes with unnaturally developed DNA entering the ecosystem with absolutely no idea what it could cause in the future. Hybrid breeding could produce something that drives something else to extinction for example. I think GMO will be a good thing allowing us to produce more food in harsher environments which will be a good step toward ending global poverty. But I think we shouldnt plant everything that comes out of the lab without knowing the consequences. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I am a little surprised though, LT has always seemed very leftist to me and here he is saying not so leftist things! Source for Clinton comment is 10 seconds of Google searching. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On September 17 2015 23:15 Sufficiency wrote: To respond to some of the questions about Sanders, I do think he is populist. $15 minimum wage is pretty crazy and does not take into account of the challenges at the state and municipal level. When a politician runs around and ask for a huge raise in minimum wage I alway err on the side of caution. Private prisons are terrible but it's hard to just rip them out. Who is going to pay for the prisons? Raising corporate tax rate sounds like an absolute terrible idea and I am not even sure if I support it in Canada. Well, tax payers would pay for them, right? Presumably the prisons are making money, so the government should be fine once they're bought, right? I mean there are always problems with forcing massive companies to become state property but hey that's never stopped bolsheviks amirite? | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On September 17 2015 23:18 Lord Tolkien wrote: ...source? Completely abolishing it is what we should be doing. Is it possible for any first world country to balance the books if corporate tax is eliminated? | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Me now: "MUST BUY PS4. SORRY WALLET." Edit: is the PS4 backwards compatable or will it be sharing space next to the PS3? | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
I don't understand why this is a bad thing. this would take more money from the 1% right? | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
I should write a blog post someday about how I feel about this series. Long story short: I love it, it's incredible, and this new one has me so hyped my brain might explode. I can even see the series tropes by this point and don't even care. It's beautiful and looks like a ton of fun. Plus Shoji Meguro is a goddamn genius as far as I'm concerned. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On September 17 2015 23:27 ComaDose wrote: corporate tax is taxing companies based on how much they make right? I don't understand why this is a bad thing. this would take more money from the 1% right? Eliminating corporate tax rate sounds very similar to trickle-down economics, except more extreme. I'd love to see a reasoning for this. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On September 17 2015 23:30 Sufficiency wrote: Eliminating corporate tax rate sounds very similar to trickle-down economics, except more extreme. I'd love to see a reasoning for this. Isn't that exactly trickle-down economics? | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On September 17 2015 23:22 Sufficiency wrote: Is it possible for any first world country to balance the books if corporate tax is eliminated? Absolutely. In 2014, Corporate taxes account for ~10% of US government payroll income every year (and has been shrinking in proportion every year), or ~300 billion. Shifting that over to higher income taxes or capital gains, or shifting the tax burden onto shareholders, is not substantially difficult, and has major positive effects for American workers in particular (corporate income taxes are primarily passed down to them, as opposed to the rich/investors). http://money.cnn.com/2014/08/14/news/economy/corporate-taxes-inversion/ http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/abolishing-corporate-income-tax-good-american-workers/ http://www.wsj.com/articles/john-steele-gordon-top-10-reasons-to-abolish-the-corporate-income-tax-1419899269 Essentially: A major issue currently is that major US corporations are registering as companies abroad due to our extremely high marginal corporate tax rate. In other words, we don't see a cent of the money they earn. Companies (and the rich) have ample means of avoiding taxes if they so choose. This is the fundamental dilemma of progressive taxation. When Hollande was elected in France and instituted a 90% marginal tax rate on the highest income bracket, the rich French elite...became Belgian, and hopped the border. Net result: France lost tax revenue because the rich jumped ship. A similar case applies to corporations: corporations are moving abroad (corporate inversions) from the US in part because of our high marginal tax rates impacting their profit margins (and thus their stock price). Similar effect with corporate ta rates in the US. The extremely high marginal tax rate incentivizes companies to take on an army of lawyers and accountants to in order to improve after-tax profit (which is what everyone cares about). This has been an increasing problem in the US, as corporate inversion has become increasingly popular. In the case of corporate income taxes, the money is taken away from being reinvested into the company, and also has an adverse effect on alternate aspects of the corporation (i.e. R&D, improving productivity, worker pay). This is one of the few issues I'm willing to concede to the likes of Trump so eh. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
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