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Carnivorous Sheep
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On November 08 2013 05:39 ComaDose wrote: oh shit its coming! still clear on the west side but they are calling for some tomorrow. all we got here is rain. This sucks. | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
edit: I will admit I don't listen to the beastie boys a lot but when I heard it I immediately thought Tupac | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On November 08 2013 05:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: LOL WE GOT BOOZE YESSSSSS confirmed your boss reads TL also, why? isn't it like 1245-345 on a Thursday? Thirsty Thursdays FTW | ||
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Louuster
Canada2869 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On November 08 2013 02:05 mordek wrote: Main points would be something like: - Individual mandate: everyone has to have a policy or pay a fine (everyone shares the risk of health issues) - No denial for pre-existing conditions (you get insurance even if you currently have something wrong) - Can stay on parents until 25 (I think) (you don't get kicked off until after your working in theory) - Implementation of online healthcare exchanges (these just facilitate everyone getting insurance) - Changes to medicare and medicaid that I wouldn't bother explaining to a six year old. (nor do have I bothered to understand) - Poorer people get subsidies to make their insurance more affordable since it's required of everyone or fine. - Standards for insurance policy changed (crappy insurance no longer allowed. thanks wei) Correct me if I'm wrong on anything, I think that's the gist. It's a tax, not a fine. Nit-pick, but it's what keeps it legal and constitutional. You can stay on parents insurance until 26, but states can increase it. I know that in Pennsylvania, if a company wants to and some conditions are met, you can stay on till 30. On November 08 2013 02:50 caelym wrote: we don't have money to support it (if I'm wrong, please correct me) We do(should). Once insurance becomes mandatory, the amount of money owed hospitals that uninsured don't pay will greatly lessen and in theory pay for itself instead of the government. On November 08 2013 02:56 wei2coolman wrote: There are quite a few things I don't like about it. 1) no public option 2) insurance is still privately own, that means it's still being driven by their shareholders, not their clients. Conflict of interest. 3) for the young, their premium prices go up, when it would normally be lower. 4) the fine for medium size businesses for not giving employee's healthcare is less than actually giving their employee healthcare, so more often than naught, most businesses will just drop giving healthcare to employee and just eat the fine. Healthcare costs now fall on employee, rather than employer 5) a lot businesses work through employee loophole by giving them just below the mandatory # of hours before they have to give health benefits. Thus less money for employee, since 1) they have to buy their own health insurance 2) they can't work as many hours. 6) the website sucks 7) obama is black + Show Spoiler + sarcasm EDIT: i think it's a step in right direction though, but dunno why it's so hard for americans to eat their pride and just copy stuff like taiwan's healthcare coverage, and shit. Companies that try to duck giving healthcare will notice their employees leaving to other companies, and perhaps competitors, that are willing to make "less" due to benefits. The same way that customers will take their money elsewhere, workers will take their labor elsewhere. On November 08 2013 05:06 Requizen wrote: Gonna go see Ender's Game tonight. Apprehensive because mixed reviews, but excited because it's one of those theaters where they have tables at the chairs and you can order like meals and drinks and stuff. Dinner and a movie aren't two exclusive events, what a time to be alive. I want to go to a dinner theater so bad, but I don't know where any are around me. | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
On November 08 2013 05:46 Louuster wrote: Snow pls, it hasnt snowed yet here in montreal but I can feel its coming soon, temperatures oscillating around 5°C dipping slightly below 0 at night soooooo.. and when the snow falls in Montreal. it really falls | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On November 08 2013 05:46 Louuster wrote: Snow pls, it hasnt snowed yet here in montreal but I can feel its coming soon, temperatures oscillating around 5°C dipping slightly below 0 at night soooooo.. It's raining here in Mass. I love walking outside and just feeling the snow coming. I hope we start getting some soon. My car sucks ass in the snow, but I love the holiday season and snow really drives it home for me. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21248 Posts
On November 08 2013 05:44 JonGalt wrote: confirmed your boss reads TL also, why? isn't it like 1245-345 on a Thursday? Thirsty Thursdays FTW yea seriously wtf op its 3 45 idk what the occasion is i was just musing to myself that some booze would be great and our office manager just strolls in with a cooler of beers and a bottle of jack and a bottle of vodka I AINT COMPLAINING | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On November 08 2013 05:47 Gahlo wrote: It's a tax, not a fine. Nit-pick, but it's what keeps it legal and constitutional. You can stay on parents insurance until 26, but states can increase it. I know that in Pennsylvania, if a company wants to and some conditions are met, you can stay on till 30. See I thought it was 26 but just saw 25 somewhere so I put that little disclaimer. And the six-year old doesn't care about whether its a tax or fine  I know it's relevant in terms of defending the however and I'm sure Mike appreciates it  On November 08 2013 05:50 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: yea seriously wtf op its 3 45 idk what the occasion is i was just musing to myself that some booze would be great and our office manager just strolls in with a cooler of beers and a bottle of jack and a bottle of vodka I AINT COMPLAINING Where do you work?? People make comments like this all the time and management is like -.- | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On November 08 2013 05:50 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: yea seriously wtf op its 3 45 idk what the occasion is i was just musing to myself that some booze would be great and our office manager just strolls in with a cooler of beers and a bottle of jack and a bottle of vodka I AINT COMPLAINING Please continue using your powers for good. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Sigh. I just want some powder =\ | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
@cheep now is your chance to ask for a raise. challenge him/her to a drinking game. your vacation days vs % raise. when you win you can send me 50$ (1/4 of my paycheck) and you pocket the rest, KK? @mordek 6 yr old mike gives no fucks between fine and tax. mostly because 23 yr old mike doesn't even have to worry about taxes until 2015 wooooooooo @soniv I really encourage you to listen to the original mmlp. he has talked about how relapse was him super hopped up on drugs and not his best work. MMLP2 is really like mmlp 2.0, not a sequel, but a more mature version of what really encapsulated the anger and emotion that brought him to the forefront of hip hop. he is one of, if not, the most technically gifted rappers of all time AND the best selling ARTIST of the 2000s (decade). like him or not that's fucking impressive. there are a lot of references to the original mmlp that make the MMLP2 so much better. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 08 2013 05:47 Gahlo wrote: Companies that try to duck giving healthcare will notice their employees leaving to other companies, and perhaps competitors, that are willing to make "less" due to benefits. The same way that customers will take their money elsewhere, workers will take their labor elsewhere. if labor markets were at like 4% unemployment I'd agree, however in current economics, current power lies with the employer, not the employee. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On November 08 2013 06:08 wei2coolman wrote: if labor markets were at like 4% unemployment I'd agree, however in current economics, current power lies with the employer, not the employee. This. Workers haven't had a say since like 'Nam. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21248 Posts
On November 08 2013 06:02 JonGalt wrote: I want to quote but my phone can't handle it haha @cheep now is your chance to ask for a raise. challenge him/her to a drinking game. your vacation days vs % raise. when you win you can send me 50$ (1/4 of my paycheck) and you pocket the rest, KK? @mordek 6 yr old mike gives no fucks between fine and tax. mostly because 23 yr old mike doesn't even have to worry about taxes until 2015 wooooooooo @soniv I really encourage you to listen to the original mmlp. he has talked about how relapse was him super hopped up on drugs and not his best work. MMLP2 is really like mmlp 2.0, not a sequel, but a more mature version of what really encapsulated the anger and emotion that brought him to the forefront of hip hop. he is one of, if not, the most technically gifted rappers of all time AND the best selling ARTIST of the 2000s (decade). like him or not that's fucking impressive. there are a lot of references to the original mmlp that make the MMLP2 so much better. im really confident in my tolerance but i also have to face the reality that im 100 lbs and thus half the weight of my various superiors i wouldnt want to risk my vacation days without some intel on their tolerances hue On November 08 2013 05:51 AsmodeusXI wrote: Please continue using your powers for good. i think booze is good | ||
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
On November 08 2013 05:34 Nos- wrote: It's snowing right now in the GTA so I guess we're suffering together now Hold me please and don't let go till this leaves | ||
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