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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 23:51:14
May 12 2015 23:45 GMT
#99541
On May 13 2015 08:44 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:37 Sufficiency wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:33 Parnage wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:31 Sufficiency wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:21 Parnage wrote:
Fyi, if you need a trade suff I am online and chilling.



Thanks but I don't even have a Haunter with me at the moment

I can prepare some and if you will be available let's trade later in the week?


Sure, anything you want in the meantime? I was going to go bunny hunting, maybe try to get a Fake out, Last Resort M-Lopunny, because that seems hilarious.


I have a 4IV (lacking D and SpA) Buneary with Thunder/Fire/Ice Punch and Low Kick. Are you interested?


I can work with that. What do you want for it?


It's free =)


Woh 5IV Mawile... neat!

Thanks!

I'll poke you again on some other day if you don't mind :D
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 12 2015 23:48 GMT
#99542
If I get bored one evening and want to watch league, is MSI finals the best series to watch ATM?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
May 12 2015 23:51 GMT
#99543
On May 13 2015 08:45 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:44 Parnage wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:37 Sufficiency wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:33 Parnage wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:31 Sufficiency wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:21 Parnage wrote:
Fyi, if you need a trade suff I am online and chilling.



Thanks but I don't even have a Haunter with me at the moment

I can prepare some and if you will be available let's trade later in the week?


Sure, anything you want in the meantime? I was going to go bunny hunting, maybe try to get a Fake out, Last Resort M-Lopunny, because that seems hilarious.


I have a 4IV (lacking D and SpA) Buneary with Thunder/Fire/Ice Punch and Low Kick. Are you interested?


I can work with that. What do you want for it?


It's free =)


Woh 5IV Mawile... neat!


It was either that or the keychain. I need to go on a breeding spree again so I can wondetrade like 5 boxes and see what I get.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
May 12 2015 23:53 GMT
#99544
On May 13 2015 08:45 Sufficiency wrote:
This kind of shows that I don't really understand the Battle Maison at all. I generally just switch out my Kangaskhan when I see a Lucario because Lucarios are kind of scary...

Luckily, my Talonflame can 1 shot it with priority Brave Bird.

Additionally, now I think about it a bit more, maybe I got screwed by a Lucario because I used Fake Out on him, but he had Steadfast and retaliated with Aura Sphere...

If you're too lazy to learn (or search) for what Lucario you're facing, none of the Lucarios in the Maison can OHKO a Garchomp anyway and you can guarantee the OHKO with EQ on the next turn. Also Focus Sash-proof as well since Garchomp takes the Close Combat hit, breaks the Focus Sash with Rough Skin, and then OHKOs back with EQ.

Specifically...
252 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Lucario: 228-270 (157.2 - 186.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 Atk Lucario Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 96-114 (52.4 - 62.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Lucario Aura Sphere vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 72-85 (39.3 - 46.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Lucario Dragon Pulse vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 102-122 (55.7 - 66.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Lucario Aura Sphere vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Garchomp: 81-96 (44.2 - 52.4%) -- 18% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Lucario Dragon Pulse vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Garchomp: 114-136 (62.2 - 74.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


I still hold the opinion Talonflame is bad in the Battle Maison Single Battles. It's great in Triples though.

On May 13 2015 08:48 Ketara wrote:
If I get bored one evening and want to watch league, is MSI finals the best series to watch ATM?

Yes. SKT v FNC semis is also good.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 13 2015 00:02 GMT
#99545
On May 13 2015 08:53 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:45 Sufficiency wrote:
This kind of shows that I don't really understand the Battle Maison at all. I generally just switch out my Kangaskhan when I see a Lucario because Lucarios are kind of scary...

Luckily, my Talonflame can 1 shot it with priority Brave Bird.

Additionally, now I think about it a bit more, maybe I got screwed by a Lucario because I used Fake Out on him, but he had Steadfast and retaliated with Aura Sphere...

If you're too lazy to learn (or search) for what Lucario you're facing, none of the Lucarios in the Maison can OHKO a Garchomp anyway and you can guarantee the OHKO with EQ on the next turn. Also Focus Sash-proof as well since Garchomp takes the Close Combat hit, breaks the Focus Sash with Rough Skin, and then OHKOs back with EQ.

Specifically...
Show nested quote +
252 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Lucario: 228-270 (157.2 - 186.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 Atk Lucario Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 96-114 (52.4 - 62.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Lucario Aura Sphere vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 72-85 (39.3 - 46.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Lucario Dragon Pulse vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 102-122 (55.7 - 66.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Lucario Aura Sphere vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Garchomp: 81-96 (44.2 - 52.4%) -- 18% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Lucario Dragon Pulse vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Garchomp: 114-136 (62.2 - 74.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


I still hold the opinion Talonflame is bad in the Battle Maison Single Battles. It's great in Triples though.

Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:48 Ketara wrote:
If I get bored one evening and want to watch league, is MSI finals the best series to watch ATM?

Yes. SKT v FNC semis is also good.



Yeah OK.

Garchomp sounds really good to be honest. I have a 5IV Garchomp with Jolly nature already so little work is needed. That Garchomp doesn't have Outrage, but I can probably work with Dragon Claw.

I will probably try to get a Gengar. I already have a Gastly but it's so absurd that it's almost certainly hacked, so I will probably try to breed one myself.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-13 00:21:09
May 13 2015 00:08 GMT
#99546
I stopped playing pokemon when I realised it was all math and breeding, and when I realised there's apparently a maximum limit for your speed value. although I did basically beat a game using 1 pokemon, that was fun.

Also I've learned to never start watching a show for the first season or two because its probably going to get canceled and have no resolution.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-13 00:28:29
May 13 2015 00:27 GMT
#99547
Beat. Skimming thread OP.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 13 2015 00:33 GMT
#99548
Thank you nose. I didn't need blood all over my keyboard though. This is like the seventh nose bleed in 2 weeks. I think I'm dying.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 13 2015 00:34 GMT
#99549
Obligatory 'what is dead'
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
May 13 2015 00:36 GMT
#99550
On May 13 2015 09:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
Obligatory 'what is dead'

"may never die"
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-13 00:41:27
May 13 2015 00:39 GMT
#99551
On May 13 2015 09:36 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 09:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
Obligatory 'what is dead'

"may never die"


"That is not dead
Which can Eternal lie
Yet with Strange Aeons
Even death may die"

H.P. Lovecraft
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
May 13 2015 00:49 GMT
#99552
First day of work today.

Was told that I look like the dentist from the Hangover.

Huh.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 13 2015 00:49 GMT
#99553
On May 13 2015 08:07 sung_moon wrote:
What fighting game you talking about there Alaric?

Touhou 10.5: Scarlet Weather Rhapsody and its (stand-alone) expansion Touhou 12.3: Hisoutensoku.

Fights rely a lot on projectiles (most of which have little recoil, or recoil you can cancel with stuff like super jumps), but there's a "meter" bar consisting on 5 orbs, most projectiles attacks consume one orb to use, and they replenish gradually after not throwing projectiles for a shorter while.

So if you spam too much you're out of meter and have to wait a few seconds to get more than one orb back (and your opponent can pressure) or you throw stuff as soon as you have one orb, but you got no pressure. That's how they prevent projectile spam from afar to dominate.
You can also "phase" through all projectiles by dashing (but you're still open to melee attacks so you can't recklessly dash to close in).

Another mechanic I didn't mention is the decks.
You can modify your moveset (your specials) mid-fight by activating card that either enhance (if it's the current move for its input) or replace (if its input is currently used by another move) moves, input by input. I think there are 4 inputs per character, with 2 to 3 different moves per input?
It's customisable basically. 20 cards deck shuffled, and you "unlock" cards the same way you build up meter (hit, or in a lesser measure get hit), being able to hold up to 5 cards at a time, and you can rotate them (FIFO style) to choose which one to activate with the button, allowing baits and mindgames.

Supers are also cards, so you don't always have them available, and you've got a limited number of uses for each super because of this (in actual gameplay you rarely get to use them all anyway). Since some B'n'B combos rely on some specific supers, you just do more basic combos or poke till you get the wanted card, and if you're already at 5 you've got to activate one to free up a space.

It's not so much "deck building" as it is customisation of moveset and options (since you're never required to replace a move with another if you don't want to) and then you go with it during gameplay depending on the situation and match-up.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
May 13 2015 00:58 GMT
#99554
On May 13 2015 09:49 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:07 sung_moon wrote:
What fighting game you talking about there Alaric?

Touhou 10.5: Scarlet Weather Rhapsody and its (stand-alone) expansion Touhou 12.3: Hisoutensoku.

Fights rely a lot on projectiles (most of which have little recoil, or recoil you can cancel with stuff like super jumps), but there's a "meter" bar consisting on 5 orbs, most projectiles attacks consume one orb to use, and they replenish gradually after not throwing projectiles for a shorter while.

So if you spam too much you're out of meter and have to wait a few seconds to get more than one orb back (and your opponent can pressure) or you throw stuff as soon as you have one orb, but you got no pressure. That's how they prevent projectile spam from afar to dominate.
You can also "phase" through all projectiles by dashing (but you're still open to melee attacks so you can't recklessly dash to close in).

Another mechanic I didn't mention is the decks.
You can modify your moveset (your specials) mid-fight by activating card that either enhance (if it's the current move for its input) or replace (if its input is currently used by another move) moves, input by input. I think there are 4 inputs per character, with 2 to 3 different moves per input?
It's customisable basically. 20 cards deck shuffled, and you "unlock" cards the same way you build up meter (hit, or in a lesser measure get hit), being able to hold up to 5 cards at a time, and you can rotate them (FIFO style) to choose which one to activate with the button, allowing baits and mindgames.

Supers are also cards, so you don't always have them available, and you've got a limited number of uses for each super because of this (in actual gameplay you rarely get to use them all anyway). Since some B'n'B combos rely on some specific supers, you just do more basic combos or poke till you get the wanted card, and if you're already at 5 you've got to activate one to free up a space.

It's not so much "deck building" as it is customisation of moveset and options (since you're never required to replace a move with another if you don't want to) and then you go with it during gameplay depending on the situation and match-up.

Scip has apparently played it quite a lot before, so he filled me in on the basics. Movement, attacks and specials were simple enough, but we didn't really know any combos, and were just using the basic decks. It's fun though ^^
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 13 2015 01:03 GMT
#99555
Ya I like how you can customise your moveset (albeit there are obviously stronger options than others, I didn't look at it too much though) even though you've got to unlock a bunch of the cards when you start.
It's also very fluid with all the dashes, flight, double jumps for some characters (Aya is queen of mobility but her projectiles have weird trajectories) and you've got aerial guard so I didn't feel punished too hard, was nice when you're a scrub.

The wiki has a bunch of B'n'B combos, but since you can A 3-4 times in succession for an auto "combo" you can easily go in, hit a normal or two, then standing A 2-3 times into special.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
MagnusWolf
Profile Joined November 2011
United States483 Posts
May 13 2015 01:33 GMT
#99556
On May 13 2015 09:33 Cixah wrote:
Thank you nose. I didn't need blood all over my keyboard though. This is like the seventh nose bleed in 2 weeks. I think I'm dying.


If your nose starts bleeding, it means you’re picking it too much. Or not enough.
http://www.twitch.tv/magnuswolf sometimes I stream, sometimes I don't
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 13 2015 02:28 GMT
#99557
live with talking about D&D

if you care

<3

http://www.twitch.tv/djforeclosure
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 13 2015 03:38 GMT
#99558
Doopy Doopy Doom, preping for Fantasy LCS v 3.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 13 2015 03:47 GMT
#99559
I've got a better idea for song bet, so that atleast more people can join. Just waiting for it to be confirmed.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 13 2015 05:42 GMT
#99560
Yo guys, I have a HORI stick and Windows 8.1. I can't get it to work; I plug it in and the controller turns on, but the PC only recognizes it as "unidentifiable" and wont accept any button presses, so I can't use Joy2Key. Anyone know where I can download a driver/help out?
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
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