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Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
February 14 2015 15:07 GMT
#85261
On February 14 2015 23:59 Scip wrote:
LOL I slept for 16 hours today
I feel refreshed

You were just like not there for the whole night and morning.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-14 15:09:29
February 14 2015 15:08 GMT
#85262
On February 15 2015 00:07 Fildun wrote:
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On February 14 2015 23:59 Scip wrote:
LOL I slept for 16 hours today
I feel refreshed

You were just like not there for the whole night and morning.


Yes. We also feel refreshed.

There's more snow coming I'm so excited.

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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-14 15:35:47
February 14 2015 15:30 GMT
#85263
Soniv you're a weirdo.
Best of luck Cixah. And may it be your luck, not mine.

Im being ditched for Valentine's tonight so I think I'll just stream a whole bunch later. Might try to figure out how to buy packs from bots so I can do a 4-3-2-2 draft. Probably BoI too.

Oh and I'm super in the mood for SG so one of you had better play with me. Soniv you're single, no Johns.

Also also if anyone is interested apparently SG is 75% off until later today

http://www.greenmangaming.com/play-together/
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 14 2015 15:38 GMT
#85264
My John is that my controller is still busted
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
February 14 2015 15:45 GMT
#85265
On February 14 2015 23:44 Numy wrote:
I read a magic pro say something one day about how in magic you lose 60% of the games just because of land flooding(?) so it's all about how do you win the other 40% that you stand a chance in. How accurate is this nowdays?

Uh. This seems pretty inaccurate? In Eternal formats where you have access to loads of cards printed over the years that can fix your mana base, if you get screwed over by your lands most of the time it's probably because you built a bad mana base. There are times where you will just get screwed over by RNG yes, but if that's happening 60% of the time you're doing something very very wrong.

Standard format currently has access to lots of powerful cards for fixing mana, and to be honest the last few sets have all had great lands in them. So it doesn't apply there. And in Limited (aka Drafting) it's a test of your card selection and deck building skills so if you get screwed over then again it's basically your fault. Thinking back to era of MtG long ago I still can't think of a time where I've been mana flooded and lost a game 60% of the time when it wasn't my fault for bad deck building...

I'd really be interested to know which professional player said that. Because that's a weird stance to take... It's like complaining in Hearthstone your deck contains too many cards you can't play before Turn 6 or something. In which case the solution is clearly "stop playing a deck where most of your cards can't be played before Turn 6" lol.

On February 14 2015 23:51 Cixah wrote:
Signed up and ready to battle. Matches don't start till 11 cst so you've got a bit

Good luck!
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 14 2015 16:00 GMT
#85266
Honestly this was awhile back so I'm not too sure. I think I was watching Kibler play some HS where he was talking about magic and "RNG".
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 14 2015 16:06 GMT
#85267
Friends! Happy day! I hope you all are well I would hug you if you were near.

Remember to stay warm so snuggle up under some covers~!
It's your boy Guzma!
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
February 14 2015 16:07 GMT
#85268
You're such a cutie Req
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
February 14 2015 16:28 GMT
#85269
On February 14 2015 12:51 Zdrastochye wrote:
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On February 14 2015 11:38 Nos- wrote:
You guys ever feel like you need life to just slow down because man I really want to drop one of my 5 courses and just take it easier, but I feel bad cause it seems all of my friends are gunning for like 5-6 courses and I'm kind of pussying out


With my first look back to my younger 20s (just hitting mid-20s now), I have to say I spent so many nights staying up worrying when I had zero reason to. Everything worked out. I just needed to enjoy my time there. You know inside if you can sink or swim, and since your mind tells you that you're a fucking baller (deep down you know it's true) take it at whatever pace you choose to. Enjoy life.

As someone who just turned 20 a few months ago, this is a really nice thing to read. I used to sleep >4 hours a night because of anxiety and stress. Luckily I took less classes this semester and I feel a lot better.
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
February 14 2015 16:42 GMT
#85270
I heard that magic quote as "you win 30% of your games due to mana screw and you lose 30% of your games due to mana screw, it's how you play the other 40% that matters" or something. Still pretty absurd but slightly less exaggerated I guess?

I think I saw the quote on /r/hearthstone though lol, so not exactly a high tier magic discussion.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 14 2015 16:43 GMT
#85271
On February 15 2015 01:42 eieio wrote:
I heard that magic quote as "you win 30% of your games due to mana screw and you lose 30% of your games due to mana screw, it's how you play the other 40% that matters" or something. Still pretty absurd but slightly less exaggerated I guess?


That is definitely a more accurate statement
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23342 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-14 16:47:37
February 14 2015 16:46 GMT
#85272
On February 14 2015 16:35 TheYango wrote:
How does every game in that mode not end up with 10 unlaneable melee heroes.


because melee unlaneable heros are very laneable against other melee unlaneable heros
id laugh so much if somebody gave me garen in nemesis draft

On February 14 2015 23:59 Scip wrote:
LOL I slept for 16 hours today
I feel refreshed


shit i did like 14 and its only a little above average


On February 15 2015 01:42 eieio wrote:
I heard that magic quote as "you win 30% of your games due to mana screw and you lose 30% of your games due to mana screw, it's how you play the other 40% that matters" or something. Still pretty absurd but slightly less exaggerated I guess?

I think I saw the quote on /r/hearthstone though lol, so not exactly a high tier magic discussion.


this is what pisses me off a lot about the card games
we can play gamees like bw where you lose like 100% of your games because you're not as good as jaedong
i guess its so much more energy to spend though

i guess its the time/energy balance
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 14 2015 16:50 GMT
#85273
On February 15 2015 01:42 eieio wrote:
I heard that magic quote as "you win 30% of your games due to mana screw and you lose 30% of your games due to mana screw, it's how you play the other 40% that matters" or something. Still pretty absurd but slightly less exaggerated I guess?

I think I saw the quote on /r/hearthstone though lol, so not exactly a high tier magic discussion.


That sounds more like it but I never visit /r/hearthstone. Could have sworn I heard it while watching Kibler stream but maybe I'm just going crazy.
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
February 14 2015 16:52 GMT
#85274
On February 15 2015 01:50 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 01:42 eieio wrote:
I heard that magic quote as "you win 30% of your games due to mana screw and you lose 30% of your games due to mana screw, it's how you play the other 40% that matters" or something. Still pretty absurd but slightly less exaggerated I guess?

I think I saw the quote on /r/hearthstone though lol, so not exactly a high tier magic discussion.


That sounds more like it but I never visit /r/hearthstone. Could have sworn I heard it while watching Kibler stream but maybe I'm just going crazy.

it's very possible that it's a real quote as well and I just saw it on reddit

the numbers seem high to me but I'm the most casual MtG fan ever lol
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 14 2015 16:58 GMT
#85275
On February 15 2015 01:46 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 16:35 TheYango wrote:
How does every game in that mode not end up with 10 unlaneable melee heroes.


because melee unlaneable heros are very laneable against other melee unlaneable heros
id laugh so much if somebody gave me garen in nemesis draft

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On February 14 2015 23:59 Scip wrote:
LOL I slept for 16 hours today
I feel refreshed


shit i did like 14 and its only a little above average


Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 01:42 eieio wrote:
I heard that magic quote as "you win 30% of your games due to mana screw and you lose 30% of your games due to mana screw, it's how you play the other 40% that matters" or something. Still pretty absurd but slightly less exaggerated I guess?

I think I saw the quote on /r/hearthstone though lol, so not exactly a high tier magic discussion.


this is what pisses me off a lot about the card games
we can play gamees like bw where you lose like 100% of your games because you're not as good as jaedong
i guess its so much more energy to spend though

i guess its the time/energy balance


Totally agree. When I lose a game, I like to know that it's because somebody outplayed me.

This is why when I get AFKs in League I rage and rage and rage.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
February 14 2015 17:15 GMT
#85276
Fuck. Blighttown.

I forgot how ass this area was on PS3, kinda wish PC Dark Souls wasn't dead so soul grinding was easier...
Steam: rook492
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
February 14 2015 17:26 GMT
#85277
at least in magic you get screwed by your deck. you rarely lose to topdeck heroes in magic unlike hearthstone.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-14 17:29:24
February 14 2015 17:28 GMT
#85278
On February 15 2015 01:42 eieio wrote:
I heard that magic quote as "you win 30% of your games due to mana screw and you lose 30% of your games due to mana screw, it's how you play the other 40% that matters" or something. Still pretty absurd but slightly less exaggerated I guess?

I think I saw the quote on /r/hearthstone though lol, so not exactly a high tier magic discussion.

Google doesn't show any professional player that has ever said this. The closest thing I can find is this thread on r/hearthstone discussing an interview with an MtG Pro where a random person states that.

The specific quote in the interview with Stanislav Cifka by the way is:
"In MtG, you lose every fifth or tenth game by getting mana screwed or mana flooded (having too few lands to cast your spells or having too many lands and not enough spells to cast). It doesn’t happen in Hearthstone, that’s why the game is so good."

He's just commenting on the difference in mechanics between the two games. And it's true, HS is better in this respect because you never end up in a position where mana screw can every happen to you. For more casual players, it feels a lot better because you have exact certainty about when and what cards you can play on every turn. But it's just not some random 60% of games doesn't matter sort of statistic.

Like I said earlier, if 60% of your games are being decided by mana, you need to think about how you're building your decks... I would also like to note how ridiculously sensational the article written by GosuGamers is as well. (Note the Kibler comment in the Reddit thread lol)

On February 15 2015 01:50 Numy wrote:
That sounds more like it but I never visit /r/hearthstone. Could have sworn I heard it while watching Kibler stream but maybe I'm just going crazy.

It is not something I can ever imagine Kibler saying lol
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 14 2015 17:31 GMT
#85279
On February 15 2015 02:28 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 01:42 eieio wrote:
I heard that magic quote as "you win 30% of your games due to mana screw and you lose 30% of your games due to mana screw, it's how you play the other 40% that matters" or something. Still pretty absurd but slightly less exaggerated I guess?

I think I saw the quote on /r/hearthstone though lol, so not exactly a high tier magic discussion.

Google doesn't show any professional player that has ever said this. The closest thing I can find is this thread on r/hearthstone discussing an interview with an MtG Pro where a random person states that.

The specific quote in the interview with Stanislav Cifka by the way is:
"In MtG, you lose every fifth or tenth game by getting mana screwed or mana flooded (having too few lands to cast your spells or having too many lands and not enough spells to cast). It doesn’t happen in Hearthstone, that’s why the game is so good."

He's just commenting on the difference in mechanics between the two games. And it's true, HS is better in this respect because you never end up in a position where mana screw can every happen to you. For more casual players, it feels a lot better because you have exact certainty about when and what cards you can play on every turn. But it's just not some random 60% of games doesn't matter sort of statistic.

Like I said earlier, if 60% of your games are being decided by mana, you need to think about how you're building your decks... I would also like to note how ridiculously sensational the article written by GosuGamers is as well. (Note the Kibler comment in the Reddit thread lol)

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On February 15 2015 01:50 Numy wrote:
That sounds more like it but I never visit /r/hearthstone. Could have sworn I heard it while watching Kibler stream but maybe I'm just going crazy.

It is not something I can ever imagine Kibler saying lol

It's okay Hearthstone has more than enough RNG mechanics to fuck you over with, other than mana screw. lol.
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-14 17:35:36
February 14 2015 17:34 GMT
#85280
Yes that is definitely the quote and thread I was thinking of.

Both that article and the comments on /r/hearthstone for that article are pretty ass lol.

HS is a fine and fun game but half of that thread is people pretending that it's way less random than MtG or something.
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