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On February 12 2015 03:14 Slayer91 wrote: they go about that using exactly none of deadly techniques would be boring if you just 1 hit killed someome in a fight scene So we come full circle its not about being realistic but being cool just like any fucking action movie.
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On February 12 2015 03:15 Eppa! wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2015 03:14 Slayer91 wrote: they go about that using exactly none of deadly techniques would be boring if you just 1 hit killed someome in a fight scene So we come full circle its not about being realistic but being cool just like any fucking action movie.
On February 12 2015 03:00 Eppa! wrote: The thing about UFC is that there are shit ton of rules. Martial arts move are like shitty action films with dancing which there is nothing wrong with. But common hand to hand combat is silly in any day where knives and other weapons are way stronger.
this was your original post you're implying that they are both equally silly when its not even fucking close to the case or actually im not sure what you are trying to imply really
hand to hand combat is stupid? thats absurd first off its a sport and peopel like sports even if they aren't practical secondly its much more useful than weapon training since chances of having a useful weapon and being assualted at the same time are almost nothing, and you don't need much training to be able to effectively enough use a knife or gun or to smack someone with a chair or bottle LOL
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
Yes, because as we were taking about here for several fucking pages, although realistic choreography is certainly a good thing in a fight scene, you can have a good fight scene with terrible fucking choreography (like the Matrix one I linked), because it's not just about the actual fucking fight. Holy shit Eppa. The one type of fight scenes I wish they used somewhat more realistic choreography is the fight scene where they estabilish that that particular character is a REALLY good fighter. Because then showing the audience the guy actually fights well is absolutely critical. Fortunately for movie makers, almost nobody knows what proper technique and stuff looks like, but I wish they put a bit more effort into that. But it's still just a secondary issue.
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like when sasuke got that sound guy (yori?) in a sick armbar when he couldn't use any jutsu but then he got rekt because he wa stunned from chakra suckup then shishi rendan ggwp
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I wish wars were fought in medieval style (swords, bows and arrows) - takes so much more skill and is far more impressive imo
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turns out plate armour turns you into a supergod though unless they hit weak spots or have a mace or warhammer
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On February 12 2015 03:22 Slayer91 wrote: turns out plate armour turns you into a supergod though unless they hit weak spots or have a mace or warhammer
rock paper scissors yo
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theres no rock paper scissors there's mace and shield or warhammer and shield or pike and arrows are mostly good against peasants or unshielded maybe
but they don't penetrate past plate+chain they don't even penetrate chain+hard soft leather layers
its juts most ppl couldn't afford plate mail actually rugby tackle +stilleto to the visor would be the easiest way to take them down if you didn't try to knock them out
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On February 12 2015 03:22 Slayer91 wrote: turns out plate armour turns you into a supergod though unless they hit weak spots or have a mace or warhammer
Just teach people to use English Longbows, ezpz.
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On February 12 2015 02:57 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2015 02:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Tl;dr Look at all the words I wrote I'm a euro wtf thats the key point of why people watch movies and like stories in general its about emotions you get from watching sure there are more high flown literature and movies that are supposed to make you think a lore more than feel but they tend to be less popular also you'll notice neo fights in a more sophisticated wavy style while agent smith expresses power and single mindedness in that he just grabs arms and punches straight, its supposed to emphasize his lack of creativity as a computer program ther post 2:50 part is neo copyingagent smith to show that he's learning he can do the same thing agent smith does its just a matter of your capability in the matrix or w/e Only you could start an argument from absolutely nothing teut.
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Fuck it, all people need to know is Elsa has arrived in Doto, complete with dog companion.
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On February 12 2015 03:14 ComaDose wrote: the fight for the dead mans chest was nifty tho. that rolling wheel battle. I only remember how it ends. Pleasant surprise as far as I'm concerned, because I didn't expect it so it rolled off well.
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
Meh, I'm not at all convinced you need more skill to fight medieval style than modern warfare. Sure, things like trench warfare where you just shell things with artillery or shoot from a machine gun probably doesn't take too much skill, but honestly neither does holding a spear in a somewhat tight formation. I mean for fucks sake, the Hussites in the Czech Kingdom raped everyone fighting with flails and hammers and all other kinds of rural equimpent, because nobody knew how to deal with fucking cart walls LOL. Hows that for a skill. Meanwhile fighter pilots train to not lose consciousness when they endure 10G or whatever, special forces train to fight in 5k+ meters without breathing equipment and snipers shoot between heartbeats. Takes ridiculous amount of skill to do anything other than guerilla people out of your forests.
also LOL gl finding an english longbow that can penetrate plate from any reasonable range.
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On February 12 2015 03:19 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2015 03:15 Eppa! wrote:On February 12 2015 03:14 Slayer91 wrote: they go about that using exactly none of deadly techniques would be boring if you just 1 hit killed someome in a fight scene So we come full circle its not about being realistic but being cool just like any fucking action movie. Show nested quote +On February 12 2015 03:00 Eppa! wrote: The thing about UFC is that there are shit ton of rules. Martial arts move are like shitty action films with dancing which there is nothing wrong with. But common hand to hand combat is silly in any day where knives and other weapons are way stronger. this was your original post you're implying that they are both equally silly when its not even fucking close to the case or actually im not sure what you are trying to imply really hand to hand combat is stupid? thats absurd first off its a sport and peopel like sports even if they aren't practical secondly its much more useful than weapon training since chances of having a useful weapon and being assualted at the same time are almost nothing, and you don't need much training to be able to effectively enough use a knife or gun or to smack someone with a chair or bottle LOL My B I was referencing to Sonivs point but this thread moves to fast. There is nothing wrong with UFC and it could be useful in street fight (though running away is safer.) I ´mean obviously basic fighting stuff is also used in places with weapons.
I an basing all of my on that fighting in movies are generally based on the main character being able to aquire arms before going to fight rather than not choosing to which is the case in 99% of all movies.
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On February 12 2015 03:27 Slayer91 wrote: theres no rock paper scissors there's mace and shield or warhammer and shield or pike and arrows are mostly good against peasants or unshielded maybe
but they don't penetrate past plate+chain they don't even penetrate chain+hard soft leather layers
its juts most ppl couldn't afford plate mail actually rugby tackle +stilleto to the visor would be the easiest way to take them down if you didn't try to knock them out
But what if the meta changed to adapt to people only wearing full plate? Super nimble, stiletto wearing assassins would be hard countered by a volley of arrows, continuing the meta cycle!
@scip - I was more referring to hand to hand medieval combat or even archery taking more skill than firing a gun. But you're not wrong
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its not interesting in a 1v1 sense though, because you can one shot anyone its all about movement and intelligence (as in knowledge of the area) and shit
On February 12 2015 03:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2015 03:27 Slayer91 wrote: theres no rock paper scissors there's mace and shield or warhammer and shield or pike and arrows are mostly good against peasants or unshielded maybe
but they don't penetrate past plate+chain they don't even penetrate chain+hard soft leather layers
its juts most ppl couldn't afford plate mail actually rugby tackle +stilleto to the visor would be the easiest way to take them down if you didn't try to knock them out But what if the meta changed to adapt to people only wearing full plate? Super nimble, stiletto wearing assassins would be hard countered by a volley of arrows, continuing the meta cycle!
LOL ill fite you plate vs naked and nimble +stilletto anyway son
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I'll fite soniv with anything
soniv is a chump
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On February 12 2015 03:28 Crusnik wrote: Fuck it, all people need to know is Elsa has arrived in Doto, complete with dog companion. That Arcana is is so good but I'm not paying $30 for it, fuck.
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On February 12 2015 03:00 Eppa! wrote: The thing about UFC is that there are shit ton of rules. Martial arts move are like shitty action films with dancing which there is nothing wrong with. But common hand to hand combat is silly in any day where knives and other weapons are way stronger. Are you carrying a knife with you now?
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