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Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
February 11 2015 18:15 GMT
#84581
On February 12 2015 03:14 Slayer91 wrote:
they go about that using exactly none of deadly techniques
would be boring if you just 1 hit killed someome in a fight scene

So we come full circle its not about being realistic but being cool just like any fucking action movie.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23342 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 18:19:38
February 11 2015 18:19 GMT
#84582
On February 12 2015 03:15 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2015 03:14 Slayer91 wrote:
they go about that using exactly none of deadly techniques
would be boring if you just 1 hit killed someome in a fight scene

So we come full circle its not about being realistic but being cool just like any fucking action movie.


On February 12 2015 03:00 Eppa! wrote:
The thing about UFC is that there are shit ton of rules. Martial arts move are like shitty action films with dancing which there is nothing wrong with. But common hand to hand combat is silly in any day where knives and other weapons are way stronger.


this was your original post
you're implying that they are both equally silly when its not even fucking close to the case
or actually im not sure what you are trying to imply really

hand to hand combat is stupid? thats absurd
first off its a sport and peopel like sports even if they aren't practical
secondly its much more useful than weapon training since chances of having a useful weapon and being assualted at the same time are almost nothing, and you don't need much training to be able to effectively enough use a knife or gun or to smack someone with a chair or bottle LOL
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 18:20:25
February 11 2015 18:19 GMT
#84583
Yes, because as we were taking about here for several fucking pages, although realistic choreography is certainly a good thing in a fight scene, you can have a good fight scene with terrible fucking choreography (like the Matrix one I linked), because it's not just about the actual fucking fight. Holy shit Eppa.
The one type of fight scenes I wish they used somewhat more realistic choreography is the fight scene where they estabilish that that particular character is a REALLY good fighter. Because then showing the audience the guy actually fights well is absolutely critical. Fortunately for movie makers, almost nobody knows what proper technique and stuff looks like, but I wish they put a bit more effort into that. But it's still just a secondary issue.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23342 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 18:23:57
February 11 2015 18:22 GMT
#84584
like when sasuke got that sound guy (yori?) in a sick armbar when he couldn't use any jutsu but then he got rekt because he wa stunned from chakra suckup
then shishi rendan ggwp
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 11 2015 18:22 GMT
#84585
I wish wars were fought in medieval style (swords, bows and arrows) - takes so much more skill and is far more impressive imo
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23342 Posts
February 11 2015 18:22 GMT
#84586
turns out plate armour turns you into a supergod though unless they hit weak spots or have a mace or warhammer
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 18:25:06
February 11 2015 18:25 GMT
#84587
On February 12 2015 03:22 Slayer91 wrote:
turns out plate armour turns you into a supergod though unless they hit weak spots or have a mace or warhammer


rock paper scissors yo
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23342 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 18:27:30
February 11 2015 18:27 GMT
#84588
theres no rock paper scissors there's mace and shield or warhammer and shield or pike and arrows are mostly good against peasants or unshielded maybe

but they don't penetrate past plate+chain they don't even penetrate chain+hard soft leather layers

its juts most ppl couldn't afford plate mail
actually rugby tackle +stilleto to the visor would be the easiest way to take them down if you didn't try to knock them out
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
February 11 2015 18:27 GMT
#84589
On February 12 2015 03:22 Slayer91 wrote:
turns out plate armour turns you into a supergod though unless they hit weak spots or have a mace or warhammer


Just teach people to use English Longbows, ezpz.
Steam: rook492
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 11 2015 18:27 GMT
#84590
On February 12 2015 02:57 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2015 02:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Tl;dr
Look at all the words I wrote I'm a euro


wtf

thats the key point of why people watch movies and like stories in general

its about emotions you get from watching

sure there are more high flown literature and movies that are supposed to make you think a lore more than feel but they tend to be less popular

also you'll notice neo fights in a more sophisticated wavy style while agent smith expresses power and single mindedness in that he just grabs arms and punches straight, its supposed to emphasize his lack of creativity as a computer program

ther post 2:50 part is neo copyingagent smith to show that he's learning he can do the same thing agent smith does its just a matter of your capability in the matrix or w/e

Only you could start an argument from absolutely nothing teut.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23342 Posts
February 11 2015 18:28 GMT
#84591
BRING IT
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
February 11 2015 18:28 GMT
#84592
Fuck it, all people need to know is Elsa has arrived in Doto, complete with dog companion.
Steam: rook492
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 11 2015 18:29 GMT
#84593
On February 12 2015 03:14 ComaDose wrote:
the fight for the dead mans chest was nifty tho. that rolling wheel battle.

I only remember how it ends. Pleasant surprise as far as I'm concerned, because I didn't expect it so it rolled off well.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 18:31:18
February 11 2015 18:29 GMT
#84594
Meh, I'm not at all convinced you need more skill to fight medieval style than modern warfare. Sure, things like trench warfare where you just shell things with artillery or shoot from a machine gun probably doesn't take too much skill, but honestly neither does holding a spear in a somewhat tight formation. I mean for fucks sake, the Hussites in the Czech Kingdom raped everyone fighting with flails and hammers and all other kinds of rural equimpent, because nobody knew how to deal with fucking cart walls LOL. Hows that for a skill.
Meanwhile fighter pilots train to not lose consciousness when they endure 10G or whatever, special forces train to fight in 5k+ meters without breathing equipment and snipers shoot between heartbeats. Takes ridiculous amount of skill to do anything other than guerilla people out of your forests.

also LOL gl finding an english longbow that can penetrate plate from any reasonable range.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
February 11 2015 18:31 GMT
#84595
On February 12 2015 03:19 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2015 03:15 Eppa! wrote:
On February 12 2015 03:14 Slayer91 wrote:
they go about that using exactly none of deadly techniques
would be boring if you just 1 hit killed someome in a fight scene

So we come full circle its not about being realistic but being cool just like any fucking action movie.


Show nested quote +
On February 12 2015 03:00 Eppa! wrote:
The thing about UFC is that there are shit ton of rules. Martial arts move are like shitty action films with dancing which there is nothing wrong with. But common hand to hand combat is silly in any day where knives and other weapons are way stronger.


this was your original post
you're implying that they are both equally silly when its not even fucking close to the case
or actually im not sure what you are trying to imply really

hand to hand combat is stupid? thats absurd
first off its a sport and peopel like sports even if they aren't practical
secondly its much more useful than weapon training since chances of having a useful weapon and being assualted at the same time are almost nothing, and you don't need much training to be able to effectively enough use a knife or gun or to smack someone with a chair or bottle LOL

My B
I was referencing to Sonivs point but this thread moves to fast. There is nothing wrong with UFC and it could be useful in street fight (though running away is safer.) I ´mean obviously basic fighting stuff is also used in places with weapons.

I an basing all of my on that fighting in movies are generally based on the main character being able to aquire arms before going to fight rather than not choosing to which is the case in 99% of all movies.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 18:34:39
February 11 2015 18:32 GMT
#84596
On February 12 2015 03:27 Slayer91 wrote:
theres no rock paper scissors there's mace and shield or warhammer and shield or pike and arrows are mostly good against peasants or unshielded maybe

but they don't penetrate past plate+chain they don't even penetrate chain+hard soft leather layers

its juts most ppl couldn't afford plate mail
actually rugby tackle +stilleto to the visor would be the easiest way to take them down if you didn't try to knock them out


But what if the meta changed to adapt to people only wearing full plate? Super nimble, stiletto wearing assassins would be hard countered by a volley of arrows, continuing the meta cycle!

@scip - I was more referring to hand to hand medieval combat or even archery taking more skill than firing a gun. But you're not wrong
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23342 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 18:33:15
February 11 2015 18:32 GMT
#84597
its not interesting in a 1v1 sense though, because you can one shot anyone
its all about movement and intelligence (as in knowledge of the area) and shit

On February 12 2015 03:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2015 03:27 Slayer91 wrote:
theres no rock paper scissors there's mace and shield or warhammer and shield or pike and arrows are mostly good against peasants or unshielded maybe

but they don't penetrate past plate+chain they don't even penetrate chain+hard soft leather layers

its juts most ppl couldn't afford plate mail
actually rugby tackle +stilleto to the visor would be the easiest way to take them down if you didn't try to knock them out


But what if the meta changed to adapt to people only wearing full plate? Super nimble, stiletto wearing assassins would be hard countered by a volley of arrows, continuing the meta cycle!


LOL
ill fite you plate vs naked and nimble +stilletto anyway son
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 11 2015 18:35 GMT
#84598
I'll fite soniv with anything

soniv is a chump
A backwards poet writes inverse.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 11 2015 18:40 GMT
#84599
On February 12 2015 03:28 Crusnik wrote:
Fuck it, all people need to know is Elsa has arrived in Doto, complete with dog companion.

That Arcana is is so good but I'm not paying $30 for it, fuck.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 11 2015 18:43 GMT
#84600
On February 12 2015 03:00 Eppa! wrote:
The thing about UFC is that there are shit ton of rules. Martial arts move are like shitty action films with dancing which there is nothing wrong with. But common hand to hand combat is silly in any day where knives and other weapons are way stronger.

Are you carrying a knife with you now?
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