Off-Topic General Discussion - Page 4080

So, at the end of End of Eva, Shinji becomes god.

They've done this thing called instrumentality, where everyones disparate souls come together and become one.

Basically, everybody has a soul, and that soul is a piece of god. When your body is removed, your soul returns to god.

So, instrumentality happens and everybodies bodies are removed and their souls return to god. This is what a lot of people in the series want, most specifically Gendo, who wants to be reunited with his dead wife, who "died" in an "accident" in the initial test run of Eva 01. You can go way deep into that with Eva mumbo jumbo but it's this whole everything has to have a soul thing so when Eva 01 was activated without a soul it stole hers blah blah I don't want to go too much into it.

But the thing is, when everybody returns to God, it's all sort of controlled by one consciousness right, which is the individual who is merged with Lilith/Eva 01 (all the other Evas are clones of Adam, but 01 is a clone of Lilith). Gendo had this scheme to make that person himself, but Lilith/Rei/His wife rejects him and chooses Shinji instead.

So Shinji becomes god.

But unlike Gendo, Shinji doesn't actually want to be alone. He's just depressed and doesn't actually understand how to connect with people or get over it / grow up / etc. They do all these weird hallucination scenes in the movie which are basically a low budget montage of how he gets over it.

After he gets over it, he decides that he doesn't want to be alone, he wants individuals to be unique again. So he uses this newfound power as god to split everybody up into disparate souls again.


The last scene in Eva is supposed to be basically a new Genesis. Adam and Eve (Asuka and Shinji) are created by God, and put on Earth by themselves to populate the planet or whatever.

But the thing is, this is a cycle. 100,000 years later or whatever, the whole thing is just going to happen again. The new movies are the whole thing happening again.

There's heavy HEAVY allusions to this, made mostly by Kaworu, and allusions that it's happened five times. Mostly from this picture which is what like only a single frame or whatever, Eva loves doing this shit to people:

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And from Kaworu's line before meeting Shinji in the second movie, where he says "I wonder what you'll be like this time."

There's also the aquarium scene where they talk about how the ocean was always red, and the bloodstain on the moon, which happens in End of Eva.

There's also evidence to suggest that based on what happened in the newest movie that Instrumentality can no longer happen, and that the ending will be different this time than it was last time, which is kinda interesting. I didn't really like the most recent movie, but I'm waiting till the last one comes out before I pass real hard judgement.


So no, the new movies are entirely new plot and entirely new circumstances and entirely new people with no memory of what happened before (except for maybe Kaworu), they just so happen to be doing the exact same shit in a recurring cycle.


At the end of the day it's all just an excuse for Gainax to republish the exact same thing and make more money off of it. Evangelion is the Star Wars of Japan.