On August 04 2014 11:32 Parnage wrote: After you unlock the class cards, beat all the bots on hard for a gold boost, keep doing daily quests and then try your luck at arena if you feel comfortable with it. If you don't feel comfortable with arena yet just try some ranked ladder for funsies(most players at the low ranks are easy enough to beat even with more cards open to them). Nice thing about arena is the ability to leave mid run if you want to do something else. Which is super awesome.
Yeah hearthstone spectating is so freakin odd to me. Everyone does it differently and each time you gotta adjust. Did they put in an actual spectator mode yet? They should look into it if not, just so the scene which is actually starting to get interesting thanks to naxx cards.
I have a few random adamant torchics with speed boost. If anyone wants um let me know or else I'm wonder trading them this evening.
If you're at all serious about being efficient with your gold I don't recommend arena until you know every card and ranked up to a past 15 or so. I'm not saying you can't be successful but it's just a gold sink if you're only getting 2 or 3 wins while you can be playing and earning gold in ranked/unranked.
I don't think this is true. Arena has its own MMR, which in my experience levels out fairly quickly. It seems to try to put you somewhere in the 3-5 range for an average run, regardless of your ability (unless you happen to be at the top). You will probably be able to put together a couple of 9+ runs if you wait for Arena until you have a very firm grasp of the game, but it will level out very quickly. I don't think you'll get significantly more long-term value out of waiting if you learn the game relatively fast. There's a pretty good chance you'll be able to keep ahead of your MMR and stay in the 5-7 win range for awhile.
Not to mention the short-term gains are much higher--you will accrue new cards MUCH faster than just grinding constructed, you will be exposed to more cards and learn the game faster, and you will have to play a variety of different decks, which will keep the game in its honeymoon phase longer.
Although I (and all of the people I know that play) have a very solid background in competitive Magic, so that may significantly color my perception of how fast you'll learn the game.
That goes against my own experience, experience with friends starting the game, and everything I've read online. I listed two suggested pre-reqs: know all the cards, and have enough fundamental playing experience to get past rank 15 (pretty generous and easy for anyone dedicated) I'm not suggesting take months before getting into arena but I also know a bunch of new players that were like oh cool arena, 0-3, 2-3, 1-3 and they have no gold now and have to grind constructed. If you're not getting 4+ wins you will run out of gold unless you play infrequently enough that daily quests keep your gold up and even then you're still playing constructed to get those done or to have enough gold to play arenalol. No one jumps in and gets 7+ wins consistently. I'm merely suggesting get familiar enough with the game without dropping 150g for each experience when you learn well for free while making gold.
Happy Tuesday all. Subbed for a soccer game last night, subbing for a beach volleyball game tonight and frisbee tomorrow. My legs are going to be wrecked by Friday.
For a more casual viewpoint: I'm not concerned at all about maximizing the efficiency of my gold, and Arena is definitely the most fun way to get packs/dust/progress. But I'm also in the "don't play enough to ever run out of quests" camp.
Oh I mean I primarily Arena and only rank for quests. But I also average 6+ wins now so it is the most efficient way. I have fun but if I were netting a loss I would probably be having less fun lol
this is a point that I see mis-represented time and time again the 5-6 win mark for Arena is often touted as "breaking even" because it allows you to Arena indefinitely off of the same gold.
however, if your goal is to compare buying a pack to buying a ticket, because even an 0-3 arena to buying a raw pack with gold you hit the 50g mark somewhere between 2-3 wins, 2 win rolls can come somewhat close while 3 win rolls will almost always exceed 50g
and hey you might get lucky, my worst arena I've ever had was 1 win and even then I was only -40 gold which is one daily I strongly recommend arena if you have the time to play it out, if you enjoy the drafting format even a bad player will only pay 10-25 gold on average for not having bought a raw pack
Man, sorry I just wasn't clear enough when I offered my initial advice. I'm talking to people that would be interested in being efficient with their time and gold to get the most cards/dust possible. Like I'm not saying don't arena if that's all you want to do. However it's just plain dumb to jump into arena without some decent experience. Like all I'm saying here is learn the cards and the fundamentals before dropping 150g per run. This is like a week or two of playing, it's just prudent and if that's not for you then you don't care about being efficient with your gold. Personally I like playing arena because it's the draft format but also because when I do well I get to open that pack while also queue again while building up gold to buy more packs for the least amount of games played. It simply is the most efficient way to get all the cards but not if you're only winning 2-3 games per run.
if you get 3 wins it is more gold than buying a pack, that is why I'm confused by your advice
On August 06 2014 02:56 Requizen wrote: I really wish Dominion was more popular, it's so much fun.
If you guys ever just want to play a couple games of Dominion sometime then let me know. I'd be more than happy to play with you guys. Or we could do it in Off-Topic game night or something. Just some ideas.
On August 06 2014 02:59 AsmodeusXI wrote: The Star Wars sequels cannot possibly be as bad as the Star Wars prequels. Nowhere to go but up.
I don't feel that the prequels were that bad. (I still enjoyed them to be honest, especially episode 3) Not as enjoyable as the original trilogy, but let's be honest here, those were a tough act to follow.
I recently watched the new trilogy and those first two movies are pretty bad. Three is good though.
So you guys are the reason for that disturbance in the force..
None of those films are good, third is just as bad but get's a pass by far too many people due to it being the best of the three. When you set the bar that low, anyone who can manage to step across it without knocking the bar off sending it into a crowd of orphans is of course going to look good.
On August 06 2014 01:34 Shelke14 wrote: The anime discussion thread is probably the most unfriendly thread to read if you don't know too much about anime lol. Trying to see what ones are worth looking into but yeah, maybe that isn't the right place to start. I'll just keep doing my browsing and when something catches my eye I'll watch it
Best way I found to get back into anime is just hop on crunchy roll, find the season's new simulcasts and giving shit that looks interesting the 3 episode try.
On August 04 2014 11:32 Parnage wrote: After you unlock the class cards, beat all the bots on hard for a gold boost, keep doing daily quests and then try your luck at arena if you feel comfortable with it. If you don't feel comfortable with arena yet just try some ranked ladder for funsies(most players at the low ranks are easy enough to beat even with more cards open to them). Nice thing about arena is the ability to leave mid run if you want to do something else. Which is super awesome.
Yeah hearthstone spectating is so freakin odd to me. Everyone does it differently and each time you gotta adjust. Did they put in an actual spectator mode yet? They should look into it if not, just so the scene which is actually starting to get interesting thanks to naxx cards.
I have a few random adamant torchics with speed boost. If anyone wants um let me know or else I'm wonder trading them this evening.
If you're at all serious about being efficient with your gold I don't recommend arena until you know every card and ranked up to a past 15 or so. I'm not saying you can't be successful but it's just a gold sink if you're only getting 2 or 3 wins while you can be playing and earning gold in ranked/unranked.
I don't think this is true. Arena has its own MMR, which in my experience levels out fairly quickly. It seems to try to put you somewhere in the 3-5 range for an average run, regardless of your ability (unless you happen to be at the top). You will probably be able to put together a couple of 9+ runs if you wait for Arena until you have a very firm grasp of the game, but it will level out very quickly. I don't think you'll get significantly more long-term value out of waiting if you learn the game relatively fast. There's a pretty good chance you'll be able to keep ahead of your MMR and stay in the 5-7 win range for awhile.
Not to mention the short-term gains are much higher--you will accrue new cards MUCH faster than just grinding constructed, you will be exposed to more cards and learn the game faster, and you will have to play a variety of different decks, which will keep the game in its honeymoon phase longer.
Although I (and all of the people I know that play) have a very solid background in competitive Magic, so that may significantly color my perception of how fast you'll learn the game.
That goes against my own experience, experience with friends starting the game, and everything I've read online. I listed two suggested pre-reqs: know all the cards, and have enough fundamental playing experience to get past rank 15 (pretty generous and easy for anyone dedicated) I'm not suggesting take months before getting into arena but I also know a bunch of new players that were like oh cool arena, 0-3, 2-3, 1-3 and they have no gold now and have to grind constructed. If you're not getting 4+ wins you will run out of gold unless you play infrequently enough that daily quests keep your gold up and even then you're still playing constructed to get those done or to have enough gold to play arenalol. No one jumps in and gets 7+ wins consistently. I'm merely suggesting get familiar enough with the game without dropping 150g for each experience when you learn well for free while making gold.
Happy Tuesday all. Subbed for a soccer game last night, subbing for a beach volleyball game tonight and frisbee tomorrow. My legs are going to be wrecked by Friday.
For a more casual viewpoint: I'm not concerned at all about maximizing the efficiency of my gold, and Arena is definitely the most fun way to get packs/dust/progress. But I'm also in the "don't play enough to ever run out of quests" camp.
Oh I mean I primarily Arena and only rank for quests. But I also average 6+ wins now so it is the most efficient way. I have fun but if I were netting a loss I would probably be having less fun lol
this is a point that I see mis-represented time and time again the 5-6 win mark for Arena is often touted as "breaking even" because it allows you to Arena indefinitely off of the same gold.
however, if your goal is to compare buying a pack to buying a ticket, because even an 0-3 arena to buying a raw pack with gold you hit the 50g mark somewhere between 2-3 wins, 2 win rolls can come somewhat close while 3 win rolls will almost always exceed 50g
and hey you might get lucky, my worst arena I've ever had was 1 win and even then I was only -40 gold which is one daily I strongly recommend arena if you have the time to play it out, if you enjoy the drafting format even a bad player will only pay 10-25 gold on average for not having bought a raw pack
Man, sorry I just wasn't clear enough when I offered my initial advice. I'm talking to people that would be interested in being efficient with their time and gold to get the most cards/dust possible. Like I'm not saying don't arena if that's all you want to do. However it's just plain dumb to jump into arena without some decent experience. Like all I'm saying here is learn the cards and the fundamentals before dropping 150g per run. This is like a week or two of playing, it's just prudent and if that's not for you then you don't care about being efficient with your gold. Personally I like playing arena because it's the draft format but also because when I do well I get to open that pack while also queue again while building up gold to buy more packs for the least amount of games played. It simply is the most efficient way to get all the cards but not if you're only winning 2-3 games per run.
if you get 3 wins it is more gold than buying a pack, that is why I'm confused by your advice
If you can download hearthstone, start getting 3 wins each time more power to you. You'll still end up playing constructed to make up the difference if you only get the 50g. I just think it's wise to prepare yourself with constructed before spending gold on arena. The difference in my play from day 1 to day 30 of hearthstone I think was significant. Arena (3/3) -> Constructed to make up 100g for pack to buy another arena -> Arena (3/3) - Constructed to make up etc. repeat. or Constructed (make some gold while getting familiar with cards,Maybe watch some streams for a week) -----> Arena (4+/3) - >less constructed than above to make up difference -> surplus gold/profit etc. It doesn't work that way exactly for everyone I just don't see what's wrong with prepping before taking part in the section of the game where there is risk/reward lol
I've had multiple friends say "Man, I wish I had taken the time to learn how to play/what the cards did/what the good arena cards were before I tried the arena a couple times. Now I have to grind the gold to get started and actually do well." I can't imagine its just my friends.
On August 06 2014 02:56 Requizen wrote: I really wish Dominion was more popular, it's so much fun.
If you guys ever just want to play a couple games of Dominion sometime then let me know. I'd be more than happy to play with you guys. Or we could do it in Off-Topic game night or something. Just some ideas.
On August 06 2014 02:59 AsmodeusXI wrote: The Star Wars sequels cannot possibly be as bad as the Star Wars prequels. Nowhere to go but up.
I don't feel that the prequels were that bad. (I still enjoyed them to be honest, especially episode 3) Not as enjoyable as the original trilogy, but let's be honest here, those were a tough act to follow.
I recently watched the new trilogy and those first two movies are pretty bad. Three is good though.
So you guys are the reason for that disturbance in the force..
None of those films are good, third is just as bad but get's a pass by far too many people due to it being the best of the three. When you set the bar that low, anyone who can manage to step across it without knocking the bar off sending it into a crowd of orphans is of course going to look good.
Meh. It's a fine action movie. I mean the bar was set pretty low but I would hardly say I give that movie a free pass. I mean, it doesn't touch the original trilogy by any means.
Anna only gets a single support option, so that doesn't count.
Also, going to be out of town tomorrow night, do I install HS on my laptop and take it to keep grinding cards or do I read The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss?
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