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Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-23 18:16:15
June 23 2014 18:15 GMT
#45241
On June 24 2014 01:36 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 00:18 Nos- wrote:
USA has a really good chance of making it into the next round, they just need to not lose against Germany and they're golden


That is a tall order.....


To be honest it is. Getting tied by a Portugal with 50% Ronaldo, no Almeida, Pepe, Coentrao and Postiga is not good news. US will have to play the game of their lives to win vs Germany. Germany will be very hungry after the tie vs Ghana. And the kind of oppurtunities that Nani and Veloso miss are easy picking for the likes of Klose and Müller.

I'm content with our 9 points now, LvG has a good strategic mind. Wasn't very pretty play but it was very effective.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 23 2014 18:22 GMT
#45242
I tried some portions of Red Hand of Doom, it's actually pretty good. I think it's also pretty easy to borrow some sections from it without running the whole thing a campaign (or portion of one).
It's your boy Guzma!
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
June 23 2014 18:22 GMT
#45243
I thought MB was Yango for a second and his tonal shift was just so jarring
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
June 23 2014 18:29 GMT
#45244
On June 24 2014 03:15 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 01:36 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 24 2014 00:18 Nos- wrote:
USA has a really good chance of making it into the next round, they just need to not lose against Germany and they're golden


That is a tall order.....


To be honest it is. Getting tied by a Portugal with 50% Ronaldo, no Almeida, Pepe, Coentrao and Postiga is not good news. US will have to play the game of their lives to win vs Germany. Germany will be very hungry after the tie vs Ghana. And the kind of oppurtunities that Nani and Veloso miss are easy picking for the likes of Klose and Müller.

I'm content with our 9 points now, LvG has a good strategic mind. Wasn't very pretty play but it was very effective.

It's not like they tied while playing a solid game. The US team made two massive mistakes that they deserved to be punished for and did.

Portugal is pretty screwed. They have to beat Ghana by a decent margin and need the US to lose by a decent margin to get in.

The US can lose while Portugal wins and STILL make it through.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
June 23 2014 18:36 GMT
#45245
On June 24 2014 03:29 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 03:15 Doctorbeat wrote:
On June 24 2014 01:36 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 24 2014 00:18 Nos- wrote:
USA has a really good chance of making it into the next round, they just need to not lose against Germany and they're golden


That is a tall order.....


To be honest it is. Getting tied by a Portugal with 50% Ronaldo, no Almeida, Pepe, Coentrao and Postiga is not good news. US will have to play the game of their lives to win vs Germany. Germany will be very hungry after the tie vs Ghana. And the kind of oppurtunities that Nani and Veloso miss are easy picking for the likes of Klose and Müller.

I'm content with our 9 points now, LvG has a good strategic mind. Wasn't very pretty play but it was very effective.

It's not like they tied while playing a solid game. The US team made two massive mistakes that they deserved to be punished for and did.

Portugal is pretty screwed. They have to beat Ghana by a decent margin and need the US to lose by a decent margin to get in.

The US can lose while Portugal wins and STILL make it through.


Yeah but Ghana is more dangerous than Portugal. Gyan, Ayew, Atsu, all incredibly dangerous and they'll be playing against the same crippled Portugal as you.

Would be extremely sour for the US to get taken out by Ghana again though
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 23 2014 18:54 GMT
#45246
Just got to believe we can tie or win vs Germany
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
June 23 2014 18:55 GMT
#45247
On June 24 2014 03:54 mordek wrote:
Just got to believe we can tie or win vs Germany


Will be very difficult. I really like the US team spirit though, and maybe Klinsmann has some strats in the pocket vs his old team
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-23 19:02:24
June 23 2014 18:57 GMT
#45248
Aphromoo's stream has such good music for lifting spirits. I'm almost happy right now.

Edit: of course as I post that he switches to some kind of shitty R'n'B. ._.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12002 Posts
June 23 2014 18:58 GMT
#45249
On June 24 2014 02:27 wei2coolman wrote:
battles are probably my least favorite things in tabletop rpg, i find character interaction, conversation loopholes and backstories far more interesting. that's just me tho.


I concur. Combat is a necessary evil in my games. It is relevant, but i prefer if a roleplaying session is at most roughly 20-30% combat. An hour a round Shadowrun style combat is just boring in my opinion. I usually see combat time as wasted time. No story developement, no new realisations, no new ideas, nothing interesting happening at all. Usually it is "Hm, those guys want our shit, we don't want to give them our shit, we are stronger, but now this combat is still gonna take two hours." That is especially true for crunchy systems like DnD or Shadowrun. Combat is also an incredibly lazy way of dming. Don't have anything prepared? Don't have any idea where your story is going? Here are some wolves and a giant bugthing for good measure, why not. That oughta keep them busy for an hour or two. This leads to a spiral where combat is the first and only solution the players have to any problem, and thus the dm only presents balanced fights which are solvable through combat. I do not enjoy that type of game very much.

I have a pretty simple rule: If a combat takes more then ~30 minutes of nothing but initiative based fighting, it is probably boring. If that is every single fight due to the system, i probably don't like the system.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-23 19:01:48
June 23 2014 19:00 GMT
#45250
On June 24 2014 03:29 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 03:15 Doctorbeat wrote:
On June 24 2014 01:36 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 24 2014 00:18 Nos- wrote:
USA has a really good chance of making it into the next round, they just need to not lose against Germany and they're golden


That is a tall order.....


To be honest it is. Getting tied by a Portugal with 50% Ronaldo, no Almeida, Pepe, Coentrao and Postiga is not good news. US will have to play the game of their lives to win vs Germany. Germany will be very hungry after the tie vs Ghana. And the kind of oppurtunities that Nani and Veloso miss are easy picking for the likes of Klose and Müller.

I'm content with our 9 points now, LvG has a good strategic mind. Wasn't very pretty play but it was very effective.

It's not like they tied while playing a solid game. The US team made two massive mistakes that they deserved to be punished for and did.

Portugal is pretty screwed. They have to beat Ghana by a decent margin and need the US to lose by a decent margin to get in.

The US can lose while Portugal wins and STILL make it through.

US gets through if ghana wins by 1 and us loses by 1, as long as ghana scores no more than 1 more goal than the US.as we get the third tiebreaker and the second is total goals scored, in which the US is ahead by 1.

so if ghana wins 2-1 and US loses 2-1, then US gets through as well on the third tiebreaker. if ghana wins 3-2 and us loses 2-1 then Ghana gets through on the 2nd tiebreaker.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-23 19:06:08
June 23 2014 19:05 GMT
#45251
On June 24 2014 04:00 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 03:29 Gahlo wrote:
On June 24 2014 03:15 Doctorbeat wrote:
On June 24 2014 01:36 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 24 2014 00:18 Nos- wrote:
USA has a really good chance of making it into the next round, they just need to not lose against Germany and they're golden


That is a tall order.....


To be honest it is. Getting tied by a Portugal with 50% Ronaldo, no Almeida, Pepe, Coentrao and Postiga is not good news. US will have to play the game of their lives to win vs Germany. Germany will be very hungry after the tie vs Ghana. And the kind of oppurtunities that Nani and Veloso miss are easy picking for the likes of Klose and Müller.

I'm content with our 9 points now, LvG has a good strategic mind. Wasn't very pretty play but it was very effective.

It's not like they tied while playing a solid game. The US team made two massive mistakes that they deserved to be punished for and did.

Portugal is pretty screwed. They have to beat Ghana by a decent margin and need the US to lose by a decent margin to get in.

The US can lose while Portugal wins and STILL make it through.

US gets through if ghana wins by 1 and us loses by 1, as long as ghana scores no more than 1 more goal than the US.as we get the third tiebreaker and the second is total goals scored, in which the US is ahead by 1.

so if ghana wins 2-1 and US loses 2-1, then US gets through as well on the third tiebreaker. if ghana wins 3-2 and us loses 2-1 then Ghana gets through on the 2nd tiebreaker.


From the beginning, I heard that US was in the group of death, but since I don't really follow professional sports much, I didn't quite realize how bad it was. But the more I've watched, the more I understand just how screwed the US got with their seeding lol

Although, Portugal and Ghana also got the shorter end of the stick. Compared to the other groups I've watched, group G has been pretty insane.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
June 23 2014 19:10 GMT
#45252
On June 24 2014 04:05 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 04:00 PrinceXizor wrote:
On June 24 2014 03:29 Gahlo wrote:
On June 24 2014 03:15 Doctorbeat wrote:
On June 24 2014 01:36 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 24 2014 00:18 Nos- wrote:
USA has a really good chance of making it into the next round, they just need to not lose against Germany and they're golden


That is a tall order.....


To be honest it is. Getting tied by a Portugal with 50% Ronaldo, no Almeida, Pepe, Coentrao and Postiga is not good news. US will have to play the game of their lives to win vs Germany. Germany will be very hungry after the tie vs Ghana. And the kind of oppurtunities that Nani and Veloso miss are easy picking for the likes of Klose and Müller.

I'm content with our 9 points now, LvG has a good strategic mind. Wasn't very pretty play but it was very effective.

It's not like they tied while playing a solid game. The US team made two massive mistakes that they deserved to be punished for and did.

Portugal is pretty screwed. They have to beat Ghana by a decent margin and need the US to lose by a decent margin to get in.

The US can lose while Portugal wins and STILL make it through.

US gets through if ghana wins by 1 and us loses by 1, as long as ghana scores no more than 1 more goal than the US.as we get the third tiebreaker and the second is total goals scored, in which the US is ahead by 1.

so if ghana wins 2-1 and US loses 2-1, then US gets through as well on the third tiebreaker. if ghana wins 3-2 and us loses 2-1 then Ghana gets through on the 2nd tiebreaker.


From the beginning, I heard that US was in the group of death, but since I don't really follow professional sports much, I didn't quite realize how bad it was. But the more I've watched, the more I understand just how screwed the US got with their seeding lol

Although, Portugal and Ghana also got the shorter end of the stick. Compared to the other groups I've watched, group G has been pretty insane.


B/D/G were touted as groups of death beforehand. Belgium, Argentina and Colombia/Ivory Coast all have incredibly easy groups, and group D was a blowout with England failing in every regard and Suarez not playing the first game.

G is probably the strongest group (all teams in your group made it to ro16 last time) but our group isn't that much worse imo (Aussies always dangerous with Cahill, Chile pretty strong and Spain former WC/EC winners). 2 finalists in the same group too.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 23 2014 19:14 GMT
#45253
On June 24 2014 04:10 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 04:05 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:00 PrinceXizor wrote:
On June 24 2014 03:29 Gahlo wrote:
On June 24 2014 03:15 Doctorbeat wrote:
On June 24 2014 01:36 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 24 2014 00:18 Nos- wrote:
USA has a really good chance of making it into the next round, they just need to not lose against Germany and they're golden


That is a tall order.....


To be honest it is. Getting tied by a Portugal with 50% Ronaldo, no Almeida, Pepe, Coentrao and Postiga is not good news. US will have to play the game of their lives to win vs Germany. Germany will be very hungry after the tie vs Ghana. And the kind of oppurtunities that Nani and Veloso miss are easy picking for the likes of Klose and Müller.

I'm content with our 9 points now, LvG has a good strategic mind. Wasn't very pretty play but it was very effective.

It's not like they tied while playing a solid game. The US team made two massive mistakes that they deserved to be punished for and did.

Portugal is pretty screwed. They have to beat Ghana by a decent margin and need the US to lose by a decent margin to get in.

The US can lose while Portugal wins and STILL make it through.

US gets through if ghana wins by 1 and us loses by 1, as long as ghana scores no more than 1 more goal than the US.as we get the third tiebreaker and the second is total goals scored, in which the US is ahead by 1.

so if ghana wins 2-1 and US loses 2-1, then US gets through as well on the third tiebreaker. if ghana wins 3-2 and us loses 2-1 then Ghana gets through on the 2nd tiebreaker.


From the beginning, I heard that US was in the group of death, but since I don't really follow professional sports much, I didn't quite realize how bad it was. But the more I've watched, the more I understand just how screwed the US got with their seeding lol

Although, Portugal and Ghana also got the shorter end of the stick. Compared to the other groups I've watched, group G has been pretty insane.


B/D/G were touted as groups of death beforehand. Belgium, Argentina and Colombia/Ivory Coast all have incredibly easy groups, and group D was a blowout with England failing in every regard and Suarez not playing the first game.

G is probably the strongest group (all teams in your group made it to ro16 last time) but our group isn't that much worse imo (Aussies always dangerous with Cahill, Chile pretty strong and Spain former WC/EC winners). 2 finalists in the same group too.


From what I heard, only the top 8? seeds mattered, and then everyone else was randomized? So the fact that US was ranked #13 meant absolutely nothing lol
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
June 23 2014 19:30 GMT
#45254
Conspiracy theory: USA and Germany intentionally draw so they both make it through. FIFA swims in money.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 23 2014 19:34 GMT
#45255
On June 24 2014 04:30 caelym wrote:
Conspiracy theory: USA and Germany intentionally draw so they both make it through. FIFA swims in money.

no, but both teams WILL be playing very defensively because a loss threatens their position and neither needs more than a point.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 23 2014 19:34 GMT
#45256
A draw is actually probably my biggest fear lol. So much cynicism about "filthy Americans" will certainly be abound. Especially if there are some of the terrible reffing calls we've seen this tournament (although, if I remember correctly, it's been better than the last World Cup?)
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 23 2014 19:35 GMT
#45257
On June 24 2014 04:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:
A draw is actually probably my biggest fear lol. So much cynicism about "filthy Americans" will certainly be abound. Especially if there are some of the terrible reffing calls we've seen this tournament (although, if I remember correctly, it's been better than the last World Cup?)

they would far more likely blame the germans than the americans. since the whole west germany austria thing happened to cause simultaneous final group games in the first place.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
June 23 2014 19:43 GMT
#45258
Tickets are in :D

http://www.amsterdam-live-on-stage.com/

Line up: Goldfish - Pretty Lights - Kygo - Bakermat - Aeroplane - Flic Flac - Go Back To The Zoo - Le Youth - Kidnap Kid - Chef’Special Live - Jett Rebel - Anton Kuertz - Daniel Zuur - Koffie

Pretty damn hyped, was there last year and this time it's way bigger :O
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
June 23 2014 19:48 GMT
#45259
On June 24 2014 04:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:
A draw is actually probably my biggest fear lol. So much cynicism about "filthy Americans" will certainly be abound. Especially if there are some of the terrible reffing calls we've seen this tournament (although, if I remember correctly, it's been better than the last World Cup?)

I'm pretty sure most people think Americans are like one of the most clean countries in terms of soccer at least
Bronze player stuck in platinum
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
June 23 2014 20:14 GMT
#45260
On June 24 2014 03:15 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 01:36 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 24 2014 00:18 Nos- wrote:
USA has a really good chance of making it into the next round, they just need to not lose against Germany and they're golden


That is a tall order.....


To be honest it is. Getting tied by a Portugal with 50% Ronaldo, no Almeida, Pepe, Coentrao and Postiga is not good news. US will have to play the game of their lives to win vs Germany. Germany will be very hungry after the tie vs Ghana. And the kind of oppurtunities that Nani and Veloso miss are easy picking for the likes of Klose and Müller.

Isn't that what they said after we beat Ghana?
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