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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 20 2014 13:40 GMT
#34321
Xxy0l0swagxx420xxblazeitxxhappyeasterxxnoscopexX
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-20 13:46:04
April 20 2014 13:42 GMT
#34322
On April 19 2014 07:27 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2014 07:13 Eppa! wrote:
My friend gave up on P:M, I suck at sandbagging as even if i SD 2-3 times a game I still win.

Is there a guide to MTG drafting, I have done it a couple of times but its going to take like 20 times to wrap my head around it since I can't remember shit and generally I play HS, Chess and Smash with strategy rather than tactics.


3rd time I played I got second. 3 of the people I played had played it for 3+ years.


Drafting comes with practice. 9/10 unless you're at a table with people who KNOW how to draft and do it frequently you can just force the colors you want to play and go from there. Reading signals and players comes with time, but as for drafting theros, I just force GW/GU Heroic.

Ugh. Telling someone to force a certain archetype every game is like telling them to 4pool every game. Yeah, you'll do well sometimes, but you won't learn anything.

First, the general priority of BREAD. This is of variable value but can help you figure out some stuff if you feel lost / don't understand a set's more specific interactions well. It generally works really well in core sets, though in expert sets, following a coherent theme often trumps the middle bits of "removal>efficiency>aggro"

Bombs (Cards that run away with a game on their own) - efficient dudes with evasion, other "really great" things.

Removal (Kills shit - note that in some drafts, like Theros, there's a lot of really inefficient removal. Be careful, 6 mana sip of hemlock is good to have in your deck, but you probably can't afford more than 1 copy even in the durdliest control deck. This mostly is intended for efficient removal, like Voyage's End or Asphixiate in Theros. Bonus points for instant speed.)

Efficiency - These are just cards that are generically efficiently costed or fit your game plan well (but won't necessarily run away with a game on their own.) There's some overlap between this category and Removal category, particularly depending on your color and the set you're drafting.

Aggro - General "playable" dudes to play generic attack/defense roles. Even draft control decks need blockers - you won't be able to fill your deck with counters and removal like you can in constructed.

Dregs - Junk you aren't particularly happy to put in your deck but will anyway to fill up your 23 playables.

Then we have the idea of signals.
The concept of signals isn't that complicated, even though it's tricky to execute well. You generally want to find 2 colors which aren't being heavily picked - particularly by the people passing to you in packs 1 and 3 - the few seats immediately to your RIGHT. If you can figure out colors that they aren't picking much, you'll be in great shape.

There are a few "phases" of draft.

Phase 1: The first picks.

For the first picks of pack 1, you just want to take the individually most powerful card. Bonus points for being able to run away with a game by itself (like a big, efficiently-costed flier), minus points for multicolored or being "too expensive" (subjective) It'll usually be an uncommon or rare that does its job well, but there's a few first-pickable commons (Wingsteed Rider in triple Theros, for example) Removal is great too.

Pick 2, DON'T MARRY YOUR FIRST PICK - you don't want to blindly commit to your first pick. Look at what's missing (common uncommon rare?) and again, just take something individually powerful, whether or not it's the same color

(Pick 3 may fall into this category too, depending on how powerful the cards in it are)

Phase 2: The Signals, settling into your colors:

Pick 3-6: Start looking for what's missing in the packs. Are there particularly powerful cards of a particular color? Is a color you started on drying up awfully quickly? This is where you want to figure out what colors are open, even if it means abandoning one of your great early picks. This is the "signalling" business people talk about a lot. Secondary to reading the signals coming at you is the signals you're passing. This is because of the left-right-left nature of passing - you are receiving 2 packs from 1 direction but only 1 pack from the other direction. That said, sometimes the signal you're passing is important too, especially if pack 2 is "more important" than pack 3 for you (such as in Dragon/Gatecrash/Ravnica when you're trying to pick up a lot of good cards from a gatecrash guild.)

Phase 3: The second pack:

This pack is weird, because you're now passing to the people that gave you stuff. If you didn't pass great stuff in your color(s) during pack 1 then you should be getting some nice playables from your left. I often find that in pack 2 my picks tend to be focused on one of the two colors I've picked so far, and that's "good enough".

Phase 4: Filling out your deck:
Self explanatory - if you did well picking your colors, you'll have some decent stuff to pick throughout the draft. Sometimes it goes poorly, and you may realize you read a signal wrong late in pack 1 or even in pack 2 and need to bail on one of your colors (This is why you don't marry your first pick!)
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 20 2014 13:55 GMT
#34323
On April 20 2014 09:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm too lazy to put forth effort to try and find a way to post songs without titles from Youtube or recording a whole video or whatever for 'name that tune'----I bet people don't even remember the conversation from like a week ago re: awesome VG music.

Anyway, I leave you with just one example (and willing to bet nobody played this game):


http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 20 2014 15:21 GMT
#34324
They clearly hadn't played that game before.
Also fuck those guys.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-20 16:21:08
April 20 2014 15:23 GMT
#34325
Turns 7, 8, 9, 12: flamestrike.
What. ._.

(And that's not even counting the topdecks.)

PUT YOUR FAITH IN THE LIGHT!
...
Said the enemy's Tirion, the turn before being copied by a Manip. ;_;
Welp, was my 10 wins opponent, so such a good deck was to be expected, but that one really roflstomped me. No good combos, just a huge amount of value cards and what seems like a good curve all around.

Well, it's over, 10-3. Last guy was a Warlock with a close to perfect (read: poor guy didn't have legendaries) rushdown deck. From the 1-2 drops to the power overwhelming to the removal, cult master, 2x blood imp, etc. I'm not sure I could have beat that without flamestrike and I didn't have any.

Sylvanas saw no usefulness at all, but my opponents barely played any value cards (well, the paladin did, but it's not like I had the opportunity to draw/play her) and I yearned for taunts more than her at that point (6 mana way too much, I'd rather play Amani+Harvest golem for that cost and be able to kill 2 little minions per turn) so... not sure if that was coming from her, or me failing to use her well.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
April 20 2014 18:01 GMT
#34326
On April 20 2014 22:40 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Xxy0l0swagxx420xxblazeitxxhappyeasterxxnoscopexX


Look what happens if I don't post.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
April 20 2014 18:14 GMT
#34327
On April 21 2014 03:01 Shelke14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2014 22:40 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Xxy0l0swagxx420xxblazeitxxhappyeasterxxnoscopexX


Look what happens if I don't post.

I'll allow it
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 20 2014 18:33 GMT
#34328
I went to another anime convention and took pictures of cosplayers.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/9943516@N03/

If you like that sort of thing.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
April 20 2014 18:44 GMT
#34329
Props to the guy cosplaying Garterbelt. The fact I can't recognize most of the cosplays must mean I am out of the loop of popular anime.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
April 20 2014 18:47 GMT
#34330
Just went to an Anime convention yesterday. It seems that, in terms of cosplay, Attack on Titan/League of Legends is the new Sword Art Online which was the new Naruto. Also SO MUCH HOMESTUCK x.x
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 20 2014 18:54 GMT
#34331
On April 21 2014 03:47 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Just went to an Anime convention yesterday. It seems that, in terms of cosplay, Attack on Titan/League of Legends is the new Sword Art Online which was the new Naruto. Also SO MUCH HOMESTUCK x.x

Homestuck fandom is crazy. I actually like it (although I'm pretty far behind) but it's one of those times where the fans make me embarrassed to be a fan.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-20 19:16:53
April 20 2014 19:12 GMT
#34332
On April 21 2014 03:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 03:47 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Just went to an Anime convention yesterday. It seems that, in terms of cosplay, Attack on Titan/League of Legends is the new Sword Art Online which was the new Naruto. Also SO MUCH HOMESTUCK x.x

Homestuck fandom is crazy. I actually like it (although I'm pretty far behind) but it's one of those times where the fans make me embarrassed to be a fan.

I 100% feel you on this.
I just say I'm a Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff fan.
On that topic: http://www.mspaintadventures.com/sweetbroandhellajeff/?cid=037.jpg
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-20 19:43:14
April 20 2014 19:42 GMT
#34333
On April 21 2014 03:47 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Just went to an Anime convention yesterday. It seems that, in terms of cosplay, Attack on Titan/League of Legends is the new Sword Art Online which was the new Naruto. Also SO MUCH HOMESTUCK x.x


Attack on Titan is ridic popular and it's unfortunate because unlike Naruto or whatever there's basically only one costume, and it's just varying levels of how good said costume is.

Occasionally you get somebody doing awesome shit with it though like this: http://i.imgur.com/zAgY1Mih.jpg

LoL cosplay is getting really popular too, although there wasn't much of it at Anime Conji compared to AX. At Anime Expo last year it may have been the most popular single "show" being represented, I'm excited to see how big it's going to be this year.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 20 2014 19:59 GMT
#34334
Dat Squirtle tho.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 20 2014 20:03 GMT
#34335
She has like this wicked sunburn that I spent 15 minutes trying to make not look awful in photoshop
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
April 20 2014 20:21 GMT
#34336
On April 21 2014 03:33 Ketara wrote:
I went to another anime convention and took pictures of cosplayers.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/9943516@N03/

If you like that sort of thing.

That suit-guy looks incredibly good. I don't know how in character it is, but those looks dayum!
Also Annie.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-20 20:23:54
April 20 2014 20:23 GMT
#34337
He is a friend of mine, playing this guy:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
April 20 2014 20:36 GMT
#34338
That's Black Butler, right? The most yaoi anime to never actually be yaoi?
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 20 2014 20:46 GMT
#34339
This is correct.

It was funny watching all the girls want hugs.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35167 Posts
April 20 2014 21:36 GMT
#34340
On April 21 2014 05:46 Ketara wrote:
This is correct.

It was funny watching all the girls want hugs.

Cosplay objective complete, I guess.
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