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Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 16:39:38
April 02 2014 16:39 GMT
#31241
I'll look into it cancer sheep


TOP PAGE. I rock. All kneel to me!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 02 2014 16:40 GMT
#31242
Lunch special - Handmade bacon and beef patty with an over easy egg and more bacon on top.

I can now feel the blood pumping through my veins.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 16:49:13
April 02 2014 16:43 GMT
#31243
On April 03 2014 01:39 Shelke14 wrote:
I'll look into it cancer sheep


TOP PAGE. I rock. All kneel to me!


I plug Diana Wynne Jones literally every chance I get. She is criminally underrated, partly because she gets pigeonholed into a "non-serious YA writer" even though her prose is effective, her stories wildly imaginative, creative, and fresh (not to mention ahead of her time), and I suspect well over 90% of successful sci-fi and fantasy authors working today were exposed to and heavily influenced by Jones in their childhood, whether or not they admit it. Her themes are straightforward and she doesn't work in epic high fantasy with vast landscapes and world-building (minus Dalemark Quartet, which is a gem in its own right), but goddammit if she's not a good storyteller.

Orson Scott Card himself has a nice little piece on Jones + a few of her works here if you're interested http://www.hatrack.com/osc/reviews/f&sf/92-02.html

Excerpt (emphasis added), and keep in mind this was penned all the way back in 1992!

Diana Wynne Jones has been around, if not forever, then at least longer than I have. But her works in America remain strangely invisible to many readers, I suppose for the same old reason: Her books are marketed to the young adult audience.

Thus many of you may well remember her books from junior high or high school. But you won't see them in many of the speciality science fiction stores, and in others her books are scattered here and there -- Howl's Moving Castle in the adult fantasy section; The Lives of Christopher Chant and Dogsbody in YA; and, far too often, many of her titles nowhere at all!

But go to any junior high school library, and there you'll find her work missing from the shelves for another reason -- the good reason. The books are checked out. The books are read. And so it is that as with William Sleator and Daniel Pinkwater -- some of the best sf and fantasy of our generation is well known to kids and ignored by most adults.


Just look at the YA adult stuff that's popular today - Jones did it all, and better (less formulaic and trite) decades earlier.
TranslatorBaa!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 02 2014 16:46 GMT
#31244
I wish Orson Scott Card wasn't such a tool of a human being, cuz his books are awesome T_T
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 02 2014 16:49 GMT
#31245
On April 03 2014 01:46 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I wish Orson Scott Card wasn't such a tool of a human being, cuz his books are awesome T_T

just separate his work from himself.
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Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 17:10:38
April 02 2014 17:02 GMT
#31246
i had no idea howl's moving castle was adapted from an english novel

are there other ghibli works based on western source material? porco rosso was an obvious suspect but it was originally a manga
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 02 2014 17:10 GMT
#31247
On April 03 2014 01:36 Shelke14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 01:32 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Ender's Game is really good :|

I read Everworld too. I also recall absolutely nothing about it other than the fact that it just lifted things from mythology.



Lol yup. Why I loved it. I'm a huge nerd for series that deal with god like individuals being portrayed as more causal like. Anything with Nordic and Greek gods or even characters like Michael, Gabriel, lucifer in a sort of struggle of angel vs demons way.

Probably why i loved supernatural season 4 or 5 where they were a heavy source of the plot

Or Dresden Files! (I feel like a broken record) Norse mythology, Native American mythology, the Fae, Judeo-Christian angels and demons, and all other monsters and gibblies show up.
It's your boy Guzma!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
April 02 2014 17:10 GMT
#31248
On April 03 2014 02:02 Kyrie wrote:
i had no idea howl's moving castle was adapted from an english novel

are there other ghibli works based on western source material? porco rosso was an obvious suspect but it was originally a manga


How fucked would your mind be if I told you Spirited Away was adapted from a 19th century French novel?

Howl's Moving Castle the anime, from what I was told, was awful. The original was great however. Confusingly, Castle in the Sky (anime) has nothing to do with the sequel to Howl's Moving Castle (book), Castle in the Air (book).

Similarly, Tales of Earthsea the anime was based on the Earthsea series by Ursula K. LeGuin, also fantastic novels with a horrid adaptation.

Arrietty is from some random English kids' book IIRC.
TranslatorBaa!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
April 02 2014 17:10 GMT
#31249
On April 03 2014 02:10 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 02:02 Kyrie wrote:
i had no idea howl's moving castle was adapted from an english novel

are there other ghibli works based on western source material? porco rosso was an obvious suspect but it was originally a manga


How fucked would your mind be if I told you Spirited Away was adapted from a 19th century French novel?


It's not BTW in case you were wondering.
TranslatorBaa!
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
April 02 2014 17:12 GMT
#31250
ponyo is based off of the little mermaid from hans christian andersen. kind of.

in the end they're all very distant adaptations of source material though.
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 17:13:26
April 02 2014 17:13 GMT
#31251
On April 03 2014 02:10 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 02:10 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On April 03 2014 02:02 Kyrie wrote:
i had no idea howl's moving castle was adapted from an english novel

are there other ghibli works based on western source material? porco rosso was an obvious suspect but it was originally a manga


How fucked would your mind be if I told you Spirited Away was adapted from a 19th century French novel?


It's not BTW in case you were wondering.

wow
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 02 2014 17:15 GMT
#31252
Nothing under the sun is original.
It's your boy Guzma!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
April 02 2014 17:18 GMT
#31253
what about over the sun
aka Teutonica
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 02 2014 17:28 GMT
#31254
On April 03 2014 02:18 Slayer91 wrote:
what about over the sun

That's why we need to go to space. Lots of uncharted fiction out there.
It's your boy Guzma!
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
April 02 2014 17:29 GMT
#31255
On April 03 2014 02:18 Slayer91 wrote:
what about over the sun

asking the real questions
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
April 02 2014 17:32 GMT
#31256
Darn I missed the food talk.
How do you think people would feel about a general cooking thread? I've seen some blogs, but I'd like to make for more for people to ask questions about cooking, maybe recipe tips, etc.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 02 2014 17:52 GMT
#31257
On April 03 2014 02:32 Dark_Chill wrote:
Darn I missed the food talk.
How do you think people would feel about a general cooking thread? I've seen some blogs, but I'd like to make for more for people to ask questions about cooking, maybe recipe tips, etc.


It would probably get some good traffic. Nerds love food.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 02 2014 17:53 GMT
#31258
First TL sweatshirt I've seen in the wild and it was on a soccer mom at the YMCA.

I still had to be like "... Team Liquid fan?" and she was all "This is my son's."

Wasn't really expecting a different answer, and now I feel like a creeper.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 02 2014 17:54 GMT
#31259
Related, I figured out how to hotlink from my flickr again.

[image loading]
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 17:55:12
April 02 2014 17:54 GMT
#31260
On April 03 2014 02:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 02:32 Dark_Chill wrote:
Darn I missed the food talk.
How do you think people would feel about a general cooking thread? I've seen some blogs, but I'd like to make for more for people to ask questions about cooking, maybe recipe tips, etc.


It would probably get some good traffic. Nerds love food.

where would you put it? imo just group it in this offtopic thread, spontaneous food talk is always appreciated.

On April 03 2014 02:53 AsmodeusXI wrote:
First TL sweatshirt I've seen in the wild and it was on a soccer mom at the YMCA.

I still had to be like "... Team Liquid fan?" and she was all "This is my son's."

Wasn't really expecting a different answer, and now I feel like a creeper.

I have to ask. Hot?
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