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Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 20:22:39
February 07 2013 19:26 GMT
#7201
On February 08 2013 04:23 Simberto wrote:
I'd suggest playing jungle Hecarim. I doubt there is any champ with whom you can carry harder.


Xin is almost there, his base damage is high enough and if you get tanky enough you can almost body block enough for your whole team to carry.

I seriously cant stay in Silver 1 to save my life. I get there and proceed to get the worst tops and mids in the world. I don't know how riven loses to nidalee pre 6, and I don't know how diana loses to TF post 6. I'm really tired of getting Silver 1 then proceeding to go on a 3 game losing streak just to get demoted again.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 21:11:23
February 07 2013 20:54 GMT
#7202
Four things:

I. Playing ranked 5x5 at Gold Division V. Getting matched only vs. platin players and lose horribly 5 times in a row - WTF?!

II. Purple side sucks. If it's Golem advantage for the bot lane or gank advantage for the jungler - it's just ridicoulus.

III. Everything that rushes Warmog's ist just unkillable midgame if you are the AD carry. Autohits only tickle while enemy Ellise % damages you to death.

IV. Top lane is so incredibly jungler reliant it's just too frustrating if your jungler never comes and the enemy jungler fucks up the lane completely.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 08 2013 02:07 GMT
#7203
DuoQ life:
-Win bot lane like 8-3 on average
-Lose game cuz rest of team can't teamfight or is just bad
-Enemy bot lane thinks their hot shit
-So fucking annoying
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 04:58:54
February 08 2013 04:54 GMT
#7204
The final game of my promotion series largely got decided by a support Thresh who decided to run ignite, then refused to ward dragon (or the exit to the enemies wraithes) for like 20 minutes because "it was pinked" thereby making it impossible for me to push as Cait, while we kept getting wrecked 5v4. -.-
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 05:56:00
February 08 2013 05:12 GMT
#7205
3 trolls games in a row. TIme to do it myself with jungle taric. HERE WE GO!

edit: not really trolling, its totally viable if your team doesnt shut down and whine because its non meta.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
February 08 2013 07:41 GMT
#7206
Jungle Taric got a lot worse with S3 jungle - Teutonica used to play it quite a lot prior to jungle changes.
wat
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 10:06:50
February 08 2013 08:43 GMT
#7207
Garen top - ended 5/2/11. Lost.

Team raging and flaming, bot failing. I tell them to stop rage and play, bot kicks some ass and goes positive k/d, we start teamfighting, win a couple fights take some towers.

People overextending everywhere, getting caught 2v5 blah blah, raging and dying i tell them to stop getting caught, play as one, listen to my calls.

All that creates is a more raging cesspool of retards

they see me taking top inhib while they push our mid (my team died anyways) they ping like crazy "go go go garen" - then all 4 of them go bot and die 4v5 under a tower. "Wtf garen why werent you with us?!?!?! fucking noob rarara" - well, i had to escape from 3 people coming top, go back and buy, then come to you, when you were already across the map. Gtfo?

I gave up the game after that and refused to be nice or try very hard, it ended 3 minutes later.

2 more BATSHIT RETARDED GAMES, FUCK THESE STUPID CUNTS FOR PEOPLE WHO CANT PLAY FOR SHIT AND JUST LICK THEIR FUCKIN MICE AND KEYBOARDS LIKE THEY'RE ON A SPECIAL BUS AND LICKIN THE WINDOWS. WHY ARE PEOPLE SO FUCKING INCAPABLE OF PLAYING THIS GAME. FUCK MY LIFE

^ for the above. Nasus jungle 4/1/7 and Garen 7/3/8 at the end of each game @ 20 mins
Useless wet fish.
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1957 Posts
February 08 2013 11:07 GMT
#7208
"i don't support though i am last pick, teams too bad" Has to support. Ok, GP support. We manage to stay even to their corky taric. "YEAH, GP SUPPORT OP!" No, it is not. We were just lucky, that there corky was bad. We would have lost if he had a basic idea of harassing. But ok, keep thinking you were anything but useless all game long!

Next game, i get a bit destroey top, but it's okay, i am Vi. Losing the lane 10 cs down and 1/4 means nothing. Teamfights start, we slowly get back. I have warmogs, black cleaver and Bulwark and i can bathe in them. In the end, their ez yells to report his team, cuz of noobs. He was the one getting caught in every single teamfight, never kiting, always having me in his face. He lost it. I hate it so much if people can not admit their mistakes, once.

Also, i have dropped so low since start of the season, that i was the only player with a warmogs in both team? How is that evne possible?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
February 08 2013 12:48 GMT
#7209
Final placement match. My elo on lolking was 1224 last I saw. I was hoping to place low silver and join some friends in their division. Everyone requests a role and I cheerfully offer to support. I try to be positive all the time

My cait was horrendous. Told me to be more aggressive as nunu against Graves/Voli or we'll lose lane. I end up having nearly as much cs as her because I cs while she's dead...

Top dies repeatedly, jungle dies repeatedly, mid holds their own but it was pretty much over. Place in Bronze 1. I'm really just bummed out. I could have played it better. I could have called a role I can play better with (jungle or ad) but it is what it is. Just here for the therapy
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11786 Posts
February 08 2013 13:29 GMT
#7210
Never play Nunu or soraka unless you absolutely KNOW your AD is good. You can carry botlane hard with some supports, like Sona/Lulu/Leona/Zyra/Thresh. Others like Soraka or Nunu completely depend on your AD doing the right things. Don't play them.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
February 08 2013 13:33 GMT
#7211
Thanks Simberto. I'm trying to approach this learning from every game and improving. I think you have a point. I landed 3 full ults on 2+ ppl. Managed an assist out of it. I truly felt like there wasn't much to do. I will probably stick to Leona for the time being unless I duo. Thanks for responding to me, I feel a little better
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 08 2013 15:34 GMT
#7212
Playing bo5 for diamond.Go 2/3.Every game I lost my top laner went roughly ~2/10 at best.Had a full build kayle on enemy team in minute 30.Too bad being 2 items ahead of enemy ad doesn't really mean you'll win :/.FML
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
February 08 2013 17:07 GMT
#7213
On February 08 2013 22:29 Simberto wrote:
Never play Nunu or soraka unless you absolutely KNOW your AD is good. You can carry botlane hard with some supports, like Sona/Lulu/Leona/Zyra/Thresh. Others like Soraka or Nunu completely depend on your AD doing the right things. Don't play them.


How does Nunu rely on your adc being good?
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 08 2013 17:09 GMT
#7214
On February 09 2013 02:07 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 22:29 Simberto wrote:
Never play Nunu or soraka unless you absolutely KNOW your AD is good. You can carry botlane hard with some supports, like Sona/Lulu/Leona/Zyra/Thresh. Others like Soraka or Nunu completely depend on your AD doing the right things. Don't play them.


How does Nunu rely on your adc being good?

Because late game, Ult and Ice Blast are good, but not amazing. Especially if you're support and aren't able to get AP/MPen to support them.

However, your most useful ability lategame is Blood Boil, as it makes your AD (or someone like Xin/Jax) a god. However, if they suck, your buff is wasted, and you're just a slow-bot.
It's your boy Guzma!
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 18:36:06
February 08 2013 18:35 GMT
#7215
On February 09 2013 02:09 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 02:07 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 08 2013 22:29 Simberto wrote:
Never play Nunu or soraka unless you absolutely KNOW your AD is good. You can carry botlane hard with some supports, like Sona/Lulu/Leona/Zyra/Thresh. Others like Soraka or Nunu completely depend on your AD doing the right things. Don't play them.


How does Nunu rely on your adc being good?

Because late game, Ult and Ice Blast are good, but not amazing. Especially if you're support and aren't able to get AP/MPen to support them.

However, your most useful ability lategame is Blood Boil, as it makes your AD (or someone like Xin/Jax) a god. However, if they suck, your buff is wasted, and you're just a slow-bot.


You can also bait the crap out of baddies when low b/c if you exhaust+ iceball enemy AD they do pretty much no damage.


On February 08 2013 22:33 mordek wrote:
Thanks Simberto. I'm trying to approach this learning from every game and improving. I think you have a point. I landed 3 full ults on 2+ ppl. Managed an assist out of it. I truly felt like there wasn't much to do. I will probably stick to Leona for the time being unless I duo. Thanks for responding to me, I feel a little better


IMO Leona is not a good support to play SoloQ. She's semi all-in whenever she makes plays (unless you're ulting) and depends a lot on ADC follow up. I've had so many games where I have a Graves (fucking Leona Graves man, how brainless i that combo) where I EQW the enemy and my Graves is busy last hitting instead of reacting.
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
February 08 2013 18:38 GMT
#7216
On February 09 2013 03:35 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 02:09 Requizen wrote:
On February 09 2013 02:07 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 08 2013 22:29 Simberto wrote:
Never play Nunu or soraka unless you absolutely KNOW your AD is good. You can carry botlane hard with some supports, like Sona/Lulu/Leona/Zyra/Thresh. Others like Soraka or Nunu completely depend on your AD doing the right things. Don't play them.


How does Nunu rely on your adc being good?

Because late game, Ult and Ice Blast are good, but not amazing. Especially if you're support and aren't able to get AP/MPen to support them.

However, your most useful ability lategame is Blood Boil, as it makes your AD (or someone like Xin/Jax) a god. However, if they suck, your buff is wasted, and you're just a slow-bot.


You can also bait the crap out of baddies when low b/c if you exhaust+ iceball enemy AD they do pretty much no damage.


Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 22:33 mordek wrote:
Thanks Simberto. I'm trying to approach this learning from every game and improving. I think you have a point. I landed 3 full ults on 2+ ppl. Managed an assist out of it. I truly felt like there wasn't much to do. I will probably stick to Leona for the time being unless I duo. Thanks for responding to me, I feel a little better


IMO Leona is not a good support to play SoloQ. She's semi all-in whenever she makes plays (unless you're ulting) and depends a lot on ADC follow up. I've had so many games where I have a Graves (fucking Leona Graves man, how brainless i that combo) where I EQW the enemy and my Graves is busy last hitting instead of reacting.

The situation you describe with Graves is only more exaggerated when you get the same response from your ad carry while baiting as nunu. Honestly all I wanted my ad to do was farm but he insisted on being aggressive against graves/voli :\
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 18:53:08
February 08 2013 18:51 GMT
#7217
On February 09 2013 03:38 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 03:35 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 09 2013 02:09 Requizen wrote:
On February 09 2013 02:07 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 08 2013 22:29 Simberto wrote:
Never play Nunu or soraka unless you absolutely KNOW your AD is good. You can carry botlane hard with some supports, like Sona/Lulu/Leona/Zyra/Thresh. Others like Soraka or Nunu completely depend on your AD doing the right things. Don't play them.


How does Nunu rely on your adc being good?

Because late game, Ult and Ice Blast are good, but not amazing. Especially if you're support and aren't able to get AP/MPen to support them.

However, your most useful ability lategame is Blood Boil, as it makes your AD (or someone like Xin/Jax) a god. However, if they suck, your buff is wasted, and you're just a slow-bot.


You can also bait the crap out of baddies when low b/c if you exhaust+ iceball enemy AD they do pretty much no damage.


On February 08 2013 22:33 mordek wrote:
Thanks Simberto. I'm trying to approach this learning from every game and improving. I think you have a point. I landed 3 full ults on 2+ ppl. Managed an assist out of it. I truly felt like there wasn't much to do. I will probably stick to Leona for the time being unless I duo. Thanks for responding to me, I feel a little better


IMO Leona is not a good support to play SoloQ. She's semi all-in whenever she makes plays (unless you're ulting) and depends a lot on ADC follow up. I've had so many games where I have a Graves (fucking Leona Graves man, how brainless i that combo) where I EQW the enemy and my Graves is busy last hitting instead of reacting.

The situation you describe with Graves is only more exaggerated when you get the same response from your ad carry while baiting as nunu. Honestly all I wanted my ad to do was farm but he insisted on being aggressive against graves/voli :\


I wonder at what ELO I need to be at so when I soloQ my AD will follow up on plays like a duoq partner
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
February 08 2013 18:53 GMT
#7218
My guess is 1400 but what do I know
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 08 2013 19:11 GMT
#7219
Fuck these fucking trolls in yolo queue. I hope they will slowly die of leprosy.

My first game of my bo3 promotion series and this fucktard is last pick and trolls Teemo jungle. Fuck him with a bloody rake.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
February 08 2013 19:16 GMT
#7220
Yikes :X
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
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